WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.776 Welcome councilors, officers, members of 00:00:02.800 --> 00:00:04.856 the gallery to tonight's council 00:00:04.880 --> 00:00:06.936 meeting. I'm councelor Paige Kennett and 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:08.535 I have the privilege of being the Mayor 00:00:08.559 --> 00:00:10.936 of Knox City Council. Council 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.016 acknowledges the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung and 00:00:13.040 --> 00:00:15.256 Bunurong people of the Kulin Nation as 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:17.576 traditional custodians of the land. 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:19.415 Today we meet on the traditional lands 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:21.736 of the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people and pay 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:23.816 our respects to Elders both past and 00:00:23.840 --> 00:00:25.896 present. 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:28.296 The Knox way is characterized by service 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.015 integrity, community participation, 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.496 accountability, and good governance. 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.576 Council is committed to being responsive 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.600 to the community and advocating to other 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:41.016 governments and agencies on their 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:43.736 behalf. We recognize the importance of 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:45.656 local democracy and council's 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:47.896 responsibility to govern well for all in 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.920 our city. Our rich history is rich and 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.256 in the spirit of the Knox tradition, let 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.136 us move and prosper. 00:00:56.160 --> 00:00:58.136 And before we move on, I'd like to thank 00:00:58.160 --> 00:00:59.976 those attending in the gallery this 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:01.736 evening. It's very nice to have you with 00:01:01.760 --> 00:01:03.736 us 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:05.976 tonight. We're conducting our meeting in 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.000 a hybrid format as usual. However, we 00:01:09.119 --> 00:01:11.256 have all counselors 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.280 in the chamber except for councelor 00:01:14.479 --> 00:01:16.455 Cooper and councelor Baker who are 00:01:16.479 --> 00:01:18.856 joining us online. I'll start by 00:01:18.880 --> 00:01:20.936 introducing my colleagues and ask that 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:23.095 all counselors give a bit of a wave as I 00:01:23.119 --> 00:01:25.256 call out their names. Councilors in 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.336 attendance tonight are councelor Susan 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:29.656 Pearce representing Taylor Ward, 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.656 councelor Robert Williams representing 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.680 Dinsdale Ward, councelor Glen Atwell 00:01:34.720 --> 00:01:37.336 representing Tirhatuan Ward, councelor 00:01:37.360 --> 00:01:39.656 Parisa Considine representing Fryberg 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.896 Ward, Councelor Peter Lockwood 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.920 representing Baird Ward, Deputy Mayor 00:01:45.119 --> 00:01:47.016 Councelor Chris Duncan representing 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.040 Collier Ward. And also joining us online 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.375 is Councelor Meagan Baker representing 00:01:52.399 --> 00:01:55.176 Dobson Ward and Councelor Lisa Cooper 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.200 representing Scott Ward. 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.616 Also joining us in the chamber this 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.256 evening is chief executive officer Bruce 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.280 Dobson, director infrastructure Grant 00:02:10.640 --> 00:02:13.176 Thorn , director city livability Matt 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:16.200 Kelleher, director connected communities 00:02:16.640 --> 00:02:19.496 Judy Chalkley, interim director customer 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:21.896 performance Leisel Westbury, Chief 00:02:21.920 --> 00:02:24.920 Financial Officer Yvette Lawkin, Manager 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.816 Governance and Risk Andrew Dowling and 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.536 head of governance Saski Werheim We 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.976 also have other members of our 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.000 governance team joining us this evening. 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.855 Please note this meeting is recorded and 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:42.376 live streamed on our website in 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.295 accordance with our live streaming of 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:47.256 public meetings policy and so council 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.256 does not permit additional recording of 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.495 the meeting. 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Council accepts no 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.816 liability for any defiratory remarks 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.816 made during a meeting. You are 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:25.896 responsible for your own comments and 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:27.816 therefore may be personally liable for 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.536 any loss or damage they may cause. I 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.456 would also ask everyone present to 00:03:32.480 --> 00:03:34.376 remain quiet when others are addressing 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.456 the meeting and remind the gallery this 00:03:36.480 --> 00:03:38.696 is a meeting of council. There is no 00:03:38.720 --> 00:03:40.295 opportunity for members of the gallery 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.016 to participate in debate during the 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:44.935 meeting and that questions are only 00:03:44.959 --> 00:03:47.959 permissible during public question time. 00:03:48.640 --> 00:03:50.775 Moving on to our order of business. The 00:03:50.799 --> 00:03:52.935 first item is apologies and requests for 00:03:52.959 --> 00:03:55.336 leave of absence. 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.360 there are no apologies this evening. 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.096 does any counselor wish to request a 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.120 leave of absence? 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.775 No. Thank you councilors. Declarations 00:04:08.799 --> 00:04:11.656 of conflict of interest. If there are 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.575 any conflicts of interest to declare 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.336 tonight, now is an opportunity to 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.055 foreshadow that conflict. I'll also ask 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.615 that you declare your conflict in full 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:22.615 later in the meeting immediately before 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:24.776 the item is considered. Are there any 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.800 such declarations? 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.680 I do have a conflict with item 8.8. 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.336 Um 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.976 and I will declare that conflict in 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.000 detail later moving on to item 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.895 three, confirmation of minutes. Is there 00:04:47.919 --> 00:04:49.976 any opposition to the minutes of council 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.296 meeting held on Tuesday the 27th of 00:04:52.320 --> 00:04:55.320 January, 2026? 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.216 There being no opposition, I declare the 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.240 minutes to be confirmed. 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:04.536 Item four is presentations, petitions, 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.015 and memorials. 00:05:07.039 --> 00:05:08.936 there are no presentations this 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:11.960 evening. Are there any petitions? 00:05:14.479 --> 00:05:17.416 No, no petitions next on the agenda 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:19.336 are memorials. Are there any memorials 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:22.056 this evening? 00:05:22.080 --> 00:05:25.080 No, no memorials. Moving on to item 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:28.440 five, reports by counselors we will 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.720 begin online with councelor Baker 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.680 and thank you. Through me can you hear me? 00:05:40.960 --> 00:05:43.895 Yes. Excellent. Thank you I just 00:05:43.919 --> 00:05:46.376 wanted to acknowledge that the Wally 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:48.376 Reserve Pavilion and Ferntree Gullyy was 00:05:48.400 --> 00:05:50.615 recently opened and really looking 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.936 forward to the clubs now accessing this 00:05:52.960 --> 00:05:55.096 new pavilion newly updated facility 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.096 that was last weekend. So looking 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.015 forward to both the football and cricket 00:05:59.039 --> 00:06:01.496 clubs getting back into this new 00:06:01.520 --> 00:06:04.455 facility and it's been a long 00:06:04.479 --> 00:06:06.536 awaited. So really pleased to hear that 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.560 that's now eventuated and also 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.056 Knox fest is happening on the 28th of 00:06:12.080 --> 00:06:14.936 February at Wy Reserve in Ferntree Gully 00:06:14.960 --> 00:06:17.576 commencing at 10:00 a.m. anyone 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.175 looking for further information this 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:20.936 can be found on council's website for 00:06:20.960 --> 00:06:23.096 Knox fest. That's a really exciting time 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.496 for our community and I also would 00:06:25.520 --> 00:06:27.256 like to acknowledge one of our local 00:06:27.280 --> 00:06:30.280 CFAs, Upper Ferntree Gully who celebrated 100 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:32.696 years of volunteer service in our 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:34.696 community so I'd just like to 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:36.295 acknowledge and thank all the volunteers 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:39.319 from past and present um who have helped 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.015 um serve our community and support them 00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:43.576 in a time of need. So congratulations to 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:45.735 Upper Ferntree Gully well done to 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.615 them I also attended the Knox Active 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.096 Aging Committee and for the remainder 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:52.856 I'll submit a report. Thank you. 00:06:52.880 --> 00:06:55.015 Thank you councelor Baker. Councelor 00:06:55.039 --> 00:06:56.936 Cooper. 00:06:56.960 --> 00:06:59.096 Thanks Mayor Kennet you can hear me 00:06:59.120 --> 00:06:59.816 okay? 00:06:59.840 --> 00:07:00.856 Yes. 00:07:00.880 --> 00:07:02.936 Great I'm actually going to submit 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:05.015 a report this evening, but I just want 00:07:05.039 --> 00:07:08.039 to quickly mention that I have 00:07:09.919 --> 00:07:12.919 received quite a few phone calls 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.199 and emails specifically in 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:19.175 relation to planning applications and 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.416 the the DAM which is on our agenda this 00:07:21.440 --> 00:07:23.015 evening. So, I just wanted to 00:07:23.039 --> 00:07:24.776 acknowledge the people who have reached 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.575 out and and I do remember some of 00:07:27.599 --> 00:07:30.295 them from four years ago as well. So 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.936 that's great that 00:07:32.960 --> 00:07:35.960 they've reached out again and 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.256 I'll submit a report with with the rest 00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:41.496 of my meetings and dates. Thank you. 00:07:41.520 --> 00:07:43.895 Thank you, Councelor Cooper. Deputy 00:07:43.919 --> 00:07:46.776 Mayor. 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.336 Thank you yeah it's been a very 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.216 very busy month I will submit a 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:53.416 full report but just some of the things 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:56.216 I wanted to highlight is yourself and 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.295 myself Mayor we've met with the 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:00.536 Maroonda Mayor and Deputy Mayor this 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:02.295 month to discuss some collaboration 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.855 opportunities and shared services 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.056 where we might be able to bring some 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:07.496 efficiencies to our our two 00:08:07.520 --> 00:08:10.056 municipalities we also had a 00:08:10.080 --> 00:08:12.295 breakfast with the the Liberal MPs on 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.136 Friday where we also discussed shared 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.136 priorities for the area and and got a 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.536 bit of a feel for what their priorities 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.136 are and how we can leverage off that 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.136 with the election coming up this year. 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:25.096 I attended the Wally Chu pavilion 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.615 which I just wanted to note for 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.136 councilors was actually delivered two 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:29.735 months ahead of schedule which is which 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.695 is a fantastic outcome for council. 00:08:32.719 --> 00:08:34.135 looking forward to Knox fest this 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.856 weekend and also wanted to shout 00:08:36.880 --> 00:08:38.935 out to Gabby from the Yak, who you'd be 00:08:38.959 --> 00:08:40.695 well aware of, councelor Williams. She 00:08:40.719 --> 00:08:43.416 gave a presentation at the security and 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.296 safety forum that we had last week. It 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.896 was fantastic. Stepped up, great 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:50.856 presentation answering questions from 00:08:50.880 --> 00:08:52.536 police, fire brigade, community groups, 00:08:52.560 --> 00:08:55.255 and counselors. And it was a it was a 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.856 great event. She she really stepped up 00:08:56.880 --> 00:08:58.456 for it and for the rest of it, I will 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.136 submit a report in the interest of time. 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:01.495 Thank you. 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.495 Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Council 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.016 Lowid. 00:09:05.040 --> 00:09:07.976 Thank you, Mayor Paige I'll also be 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.456 a report for my activities because I 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.255 want to just focus on the centenery 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.736 of the Boronia Progress Hall. Boronia 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:17.096 Progress Hall there in in the middle of 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.815 Boronia on Boronia Road. was 00:09:19.839 --> 00:09:21.976 established in February 100 years ago 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.536 2026 1926, 00:09:24.560 --> 00:09:26.856 same year my mother was born and has 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:28.456 been the cornerstone of that community 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.856 for a century, hosting local dancers. 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:33.096 You can imagine local dancers, we don't 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.255 call them that anymore, do we? Um, 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.016 meetings and during World War II, 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:39.896 serving as a venue for rallies, raising 00:09:39.920 --> 00:09:42.375 money for the war. Um, following the 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.536 opening the railway station in 1920, the 00:09:44.560 --> 00:09:47.016 local progress association was formed to 00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:49.656 lobby for community infrastructure. The 00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:52.216 progress hall was built during 1925 and 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.776 1926 on Bronny Road, a land that was 00:09:54.800 --> 00:09:57.800 gifted by local Gilbert Chantler, 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.736 whose name is well known to us, of 00:09:59.760 --> 00:10:02.216 course. The hall was damaged by a fire 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.240 in the 1990s, but was repaired and 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:06.696 continues to serve the community, 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.576 celebrating its 100th anniversary this 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.600 month. Happy birthday. Um, Ron Progress. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.495 We should start having some meetings 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.375 there. Council meetings. 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.696 Thank you, Council Lockwood. Councelor 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.720 Considine. Um, thank you, Madame May. 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.536 Um, I had a very busy month, but I will 00:10:26.560 --> 00:10:28.776 submit a report later on if it's all 00:10:28.800 --> 00:10:31.736 right. Thank you. Of course, 00:10:31.760 --> 00:10:32.696 councelor Atwell. 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.720 thank you, Mayor. Um I attended my 00:10:35.839 --> 00:10:37.576 first meeting of the Knox Disability 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.576 Advisory Committee, Kak as we know 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.296 it, on Tuesday, the 3rd of February, 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.375 and I noted councelor Pearce is the 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.016 outgoing one of the outgoing councils 00:10:47.040 --> 00:10:48.456 from that committee and thank Councelor 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.696 Pearce again for making way for me 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.255 on Kak this year because it's a a real 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.279 passion area of mine. Um and it was 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.696 great to meet the committee um introduce 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:00.216 myself to the committee members here, 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.456 their lived experiences and and 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.216 professional and and personal connection 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.096 with all things um disability and and 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.120 access and inclusion. So um and I 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:12.136 note councelor Baker and and thank 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:14.375 her as my fellow committee member of of 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.935 KACK um from council who's chairing 00:11:16.959 --> 00:11:19.016 the committee again this year. Um we 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:21.736 talked about the local law review and 00:11:21.760 --> 00:11:24.760 event permits and in really building 00:11:24.800 --> 00:11:26.616 access and inclusion principles into 00:11:26.640 --> 00:11:29.576 everything council does. So really 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.176 great group of people around the table 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.576 and look forward to having an impact 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.375 at KAK this year. last Thursday 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.776 the 19th of February with um with the 00:11:38.800 --> 00:11:41.176 Mayor council Kennet we attended the 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.896 your library board meeting. Um I 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:46.856 was very very humbled to be elected 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:48.536 deputy chair of your library for this 00:11:48.560 --> 00:11:51.560 year. I accepted the nomination with 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:54.920 um yes with with hope to yes provide 00:11:55.680 --> 00:11:58.536 continuity and and um and and input 00:11:58.560 --> 00:12:01.096 for the your library board for some 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:02.536 time to come. We talked a little bit 00:12:02.560 --> 00:12:05.495 about the upcoming annual budget. Um and 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:06.856 it was really interesting to see some 00:12:06.880 --> 00:12:08.776 numbers just how well your library ranks 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:11.176 in terms of visits and memberships 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.976 and active borrowings and downloads. Um 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.136 number one number one in terms of um 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:18.136 several metrics. Not the biggest library 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:20.456 group, but they're they're top of the um 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.776 top of the leaderboard in terms of 00:12:22.800 --> 00:12:24.456 many of the metrics that we use to 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.856 measure our our library and services. So 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:28.536 well done your library and yeah, look 00:12:28.560 --> 00:12:31.176 forward to getting stuck into the 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.200 the work of the board this year. um 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.935 plenty of um other things. I note the 00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:38.696 correspondence that that others had 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.456 relating to a couple of the agenda items 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.856 tonight and um I'll submit a report with 00:12:42.880 --> 00:12:44.536 the rest of the happenings from 00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:46.456 Thatchron ward this month. Thank you. 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.216 Thank you councelor Atwell. Council 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:49.656 Williams 00:12:49.680 --> 00:12:51.255 thank you through you Mayor. Um yeah 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.336 been a busy month since we've been back. 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.255 Um a couple of us including yourself 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:57.815 Mayor we attended the Wally opening on 00:12:57.839 --> 00:12:59.736 Saturday. That was great and um what 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:02.055 an excited club and it was great to see 00:13:02.079 --> 00:13:03.976 um the event going on straight after. So 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.000 that was amazing. Um again as councelor 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.336 Baker mentioned upg celebrated their 100 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.096 years. That was um a great achievement 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.815 for the CFA in our local area. I 00:13:13.839 --> 00:13:16.055 attended the bazewater bowls club um 00:13:16.079 --> 00:13:18.296 where we talked about the new lights and 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.615 um some future greens upgrades that are 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:21.896 going to be occurring there. So that was 00:13:21.920 --> 00:13:24.136 that was great. Um and just great to see 00:13:24.160 --> 00:13:25.416 so many people around playing some 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:26.935 bowls. 00:13:26.959 --> 00:13:28.456 um 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.615 went and saw the new Oval Dan at Lewis 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.495 Park where the Nox City Cricket 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:34.856 Club was playing and they actually won. 00:13:34.880 --> 00:13:37.815 So, it was a great great event on Sunday 00:13:37.839 --> 00:13:40.136 yesterday. they are getting 00:13:40.160 --> 00:13:41.656 used to the grass. I didn't realize how 00:13:41.680 --> 00:13:43.416 much a ball can move on grass and things 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.336 like that. I've never played cricket or 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.255 I have played once or twice, but it 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.495 was interesting to see um some of their 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:50.536 comments, but they were really enjoying 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:52.456 the new facility. So, um, they wanted to 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.615 pass on their thanks to Nox Council for 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:55.896 a great effort that we've done down 00:13:55.920 --> 00:13:58.920 there at Lewis Park. Um, Councelor 00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:01.016 Duncan, , and myself have got Yak on 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:02.296 Wednesday. Unfortunately, I'll be an 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.456 apology. I'm I'm away, um, for business 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.696 myself on Wednesday. But, , I know 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:07.976 speaking with the team, the new members 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.495 are really excited to start and it's 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.416 going to be a really great start to 2026 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.336 and seeing what , the youth advisory 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.360 committee brings to , brings to us to 00:14:16.560 --> 00:14:18.536 um, put up forward. So, um, councelor 00:14:18.560 --> 00:14:19.815 Duncan and I are looking forward to that 00:14:19.839 --> 00:14:22.839 this year. Um likewise as councelor 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.016 Cooper mentioned um had plenty of phone 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:26.776 calls and emails around the damp um 00:14:26.800 --> 00:14:27.976 which is coming up tonight for 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.976 discussion and also around some planning 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.656 decisions that are being brought up 00:14:31.680 --> 00:14:34.680 tonight. Um attended the Liberal MP's 00:14:36.560 --> 00:14:38.776 breakfast on Friday morning. That was 00:14:38.800 --> 00:14:40.296 um that was great just to hear from 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.776 their side what they would like to see 00:14:42.800 --> 00:14:44.456 um or what they can bring to council and 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.696 likewise what we can do to help them 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.656 in the leadup to the upcoming election. 00:14:49.680 --> 00:14:51.656 and I would like to acknowledge all 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:53.175 emergency services in Knox at the 00:14:53.199 --> 00:14:55.255 moment. It's been a um very busy period 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.279 especially for CFA and SCS since the 00:14:58.399 --> 00:14:59.896 roughly around about the 7th of January 00:14:59.920 --> 00:15:01.495 when a lot of the fires have been 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.136 starting in our area. So NOX in 00:15:04.160 --> 00:15:06.776 particular has sent a lot of members um 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:09.336 both from CFA and SCES all around the 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.336 countryside at the moment. Most recently 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.255 up at Woods Point, we had a lot of our 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.279 members sitting in asset protection 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:19.096 um up at Woods Point. the fire was 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.536 looking like it was going to impact the 00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:23.016 town over the weekend. thank 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:25.495 thankfully with the reprieve of the um 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:26.935 some of the rain that came through, 00:15:26.959 --> 00:15:29.736 they're all now home safe. So um the 00:15:29.760 --> 00:15:31.736 last members got back at about 1:30 this 00:15:31.760 --> 00:15:33.495 morning. So um that was really good to 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.216 see. Um but I do note that we are on um 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:37.736 storm alert for tomorrow. So believe it 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:39.336 or not, you know, fires and now storms 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.416 literally within a season. Um, so we've 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.495 got storm alert um for tomorrow and some 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.519 of our crews are gearing up for um a 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:48.935 storm task force um because we got a 00:15:48.959 --> 00:15:50.456 fair bit of um water and all that coming 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:52.856 our way with rain. So um just mindful 00:15:52.880 --> 00:15:55.016 for people to um take care out there on 00:15:55.040 --> 00:15:58.040 the roads. Um you know our emergency 00:15:58.079 --> 00:15:59.495 services do a good job, but the less 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.656 calls they can go out to the better. Um 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:02.935 and tomorrow with the weather just keep 00:16:02.959 --> 00:16:05.255 an eye on trees and everything 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:07.336 moving. So looking forward to Knox 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:08.935 Festival this weekend with my fellow 00:16:08.959 --> 00:16:10.456 counselors. I know quite a few of us are 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:11.656 going throughout the day and that's 00:16:11.680 --> 00:16:13.896 going to be um a lot of fun there as 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:16.296 well. And I think that's pretty much 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.216 about it from me. So until next month. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.016 Thank you. 00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:20.615 Thank you, Council Williams. Councelor 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:22.536 Pearce. 00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:24.856 Thank you, Madame May. Taylor Wood had a 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:27.656 busy month this month. On the 31st of 00:16:27.680 --> 00:16:29.495 January, I attended the president's ball 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.296 at the Serena House in Raleigh. What a 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.175 fantastic night with beautiful and 00:16:35.199 --> 00:16:37.175 wonderful people. The consulate general 00:16:37.199 --> 00:16:39.016 and deputy consulate general of Poland 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:41.495 were in attendance. Also in attendance 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.976 was Max William, our Liberal candidate 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.375 for Roville. On the 4th of February 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.055 attended Wavely Gardens Retirement 00:16:48.079 --> 00:16:49.815 Village to meet the committee and the 00:16:49.839 --> 00:16:52.615 village manager Nash along with council 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.096 officers. We discussions went really 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.776 well and the progress is made on a 00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:59.255 number of issues. I would like to thank 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.216 the committee Nash for the meeting 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.976 meeting with us and the officers for 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.376 their invaluable help. 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.295 On the 7th of February, I attended the 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:09.895 Lististerfield mosque as part of the 00:17:09.919 --> 00:17:12.919 open day with Mayor Paige Kennet 00:17:13.360 --> 00:17:16.360 and Federal Member Mary Doyle. I'd like 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:18.456 to thank Mayor Kennet for coming to the 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.935 open day and the leaders of the mosque 00:17:20.959 --> 00:17:22.856 for inviting us. It was always a 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.496 wonderful day to go to. 00:17:25.520 --> 00:17:28.520 On the 12th of February, I attended 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.096 my first active aging committee with 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:34.120 councelor Baker. Um, it was done online 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:36.535 because I was unable to drive at that 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.559 time. Um, I just want to thank the 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:42.296 committee. It was great to meet them and 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:44.136 I had really enjoyed hearing their 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.936 ideas. On the 18th of February, I had 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.176 the opportunity for a coffee with 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.895 Senator Jane Hume to discuss varied 00:17:51.919 --> 00:17:54.919 issues in Taylor Ward and in Knox. It 00:17:55.760 --> 00:17:57.895 was a great discussion. I appreciate her 00:17:57.919 --> 00:18:00.775 input concerning federal me matters that 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.336 will affect Nox. On the 21st of 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:04.696 February, I attended the opening day 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.576 with Wally Chu provision refurbishment 00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:10.136 with the Mayor, the deputy Mayor, 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.160 councelor Williams, federal me 00:18:13.360 --> 00:18:16.360 Danielle Del Martino. I got it right. 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.336 Great. It was great to see the new ver 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:21.336 the clubs Ferntree Gully football and 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:23.576 netbook club and Fernry Gully Football 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:26.296 Club. Have I got the right teams? Yes. 00:18:26.320 --> 00:18:29.320 good. we're holding a pink sump day 00:18:29.919 --> 00:18:32.919 afterwards for cancer research and 00:18:33.120 --> 00:18:34.856 cancer research is something I hold very 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:37.096 close to my heart. 00:18:37.120 --> 00:18:38.936 I hope the day went well and I hope they 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.960 rate lot raised lots of money. On the 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:43.816 same day I visited residents who were 00:18:43.840 --> 00:18:46.535 involved in an accident on Napoleon Road 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:48.616 at school crossing. We discussed the 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.616 lack of signage at the crossing and a 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:52.775 number of other issues and I will be 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.799 bringing that to council's attention in 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.000 later later meetings. In addition, I 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:01.655 spoke to residents about a memorial wall 00:19:01.679 --> 00:19:04.136 for a local dog who died in the local in 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:07.015 the local dog park, renaming a park 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:10.039 after a resident, as well as trees put 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.616 foot paths and rubbish, 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.640 as well as talking about the damp and 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.696 about the current planning issues in 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:20.775 Roville. Thank you very much for your 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.336 time. 00:19:23.360 --> 00:19:26.216 Thank you, Councelor Pearce. 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.616 I will submit a report with the 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.416 events and the things that I have 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.576 been working on in the last four weeks 00:19:33.600 --> 00:19:35.096 and that will be available in the 00:19:35.120 --> 00:19:38.120 minutes of of this meeting along with 00:19:38.320 --> 00:19:39.816 other counselors who will also be 00:19:39.840 --> 00:19:41.895 submitting a report. But I also just 00:19:41.919 --> 00:19:44.919 wanted to let residents know that at 00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:48.616 the November council meeting 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.640 council asked for officers to write 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.240 to the the honorable Melissa Horn around 00:19:55.840 --> 00:19:58.840 the maintenance of medium strips across 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:02.120 the city of Knox and we received a 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.616 response which I just wanted to let 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.640 residents know. the honorable Melissa 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:10.696 Horn has detailed that the Labor 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.720 government is investing $976 million in 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.176 Better Roads Blitz to fix potholes and 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.976 upgrade road surfaces. And that also 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.856 includes traffic lights, mowing, 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:25.736 slashing, spraying grass, weeds along 00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:28.760 roadsides and repairing thousands of 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:31.880 road signs. she also states that DTP 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.176 has a strategic plan to undertake three 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:37.976 grass cuts with two scheduled in the 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.856 leadup to the CFA declared fire season 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.880 to help mitigate fire risk. Um and while 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.015 I understand that this possibly isn't 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.176 the response that residents want, we 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:52.200 will continue to speak with our 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.176 state members about what matters to our 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.576 community. And if this is a matter that 00:20:57.600 --> 00:21:00.600 matters to you too, it's also helpful to 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.496 raise your voice with your state member. 00:21:03.520 --> 00:21:05.736 I'd also like to thank the CEO for 00:21:05.760 --> 00:21:08.135 writing to the secretary of department 00:21:08.159 --> 00:21:11.159 of treasury and finance, the CEO for 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.015 the state revenue office and the CEO for 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.736 emergency management Victoria 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:20.760 um requesting more information about 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.799 where the emergency services 00:21:23.919 --> 00:21:26.696 fund or the the levy that is being 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.856 currently collected by councils through 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:31.816 your rates on behalf of the state. We 00:21:31.840 --> 00:21:33.895 were asking for some transparency about 00:21:33.919 --> 00:21:36.616 where that money is going. we're yet 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:39.640 to receive a response. 00:21:39.919 --> 00:21:42.216 Um I also look forward to Knoxfest this 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:43.816 Saturday and I hope to see many of you 00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:45.816 there. 00:21:45.840 --> 00:21:48.775 Um moving on to 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.799 um planning matters item six. Item 6.1 00:21:53.360 --> 00:21:55.336 is report of planning applications 00:21:55.360 --> 00:21:58.360 decided under delegation from the 1st of 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.799 January 2026 to 31st of January 2026. 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.000 Would a council like to move a motion? 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:12.120 Oh, thank you councelor Baker. And is 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:13.976 there a second for that motion? Thank 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.736 you, councelor Williams. Councelor 00:22:15.760 --> 00:22:17.176 Baker, would you like to speak to the 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:20.056 motion? just briefly, these are items 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:22.216 that come each and every month to 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.696 council. Um and for the month of 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.655 January, there were 39 applications that 00:22:27.679 --> 00:22:30.216 would site under de um delegation. Thank 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:30.775 you. 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.616 Thank you, councelor Baker and councelor 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.936 Williams. 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.336 Thank you. 00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:37.895 Yes. 00:22:37.919 --> 00:22:39.736 Was that the recommendation the council 00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:40.535 was moving? 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:42.135 Thank you very much for your question. 00:22:42.159 --> 00:22:43.736 Councelor Baker, can I confirm that's 00:22:43.760 --> 00:22:46.135 the officer's recommendation? 00:22:46.159 --> 00:22:47.976 Correct. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.336 Thank you for your question, Councelor 00:22:49.360 --> 00:22:51.015 Lockwood. Would any other council like 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:54.039 to speak to the motion? 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.135 No. I'll put the motion. All those in 00:22:56.159 --> 00:22:59.159 favor? 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:01.816 The motion is carried unanimously. Thank 00:23:01.840 --> 00:23:04.840 you. 00:23:05.360 --> 00:23:07.576 the next item on the agenda is item 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:10.600 6.2, 24 to 26, Taylor's Lane, Roville. 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.135 Would a council like to move a motion? 00:23:14.159 --> 00:23:16.456 Thank you, councelor Pearce. Is there a 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.056 second for that motion? 00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:19.736 Oh, is that the officer's 00:23:19.760 --> 00:23:21.096 recommendation? Council, 00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:22.296 I'm moving the report for the 00:23:22.320 --> 00:23:25.320 discussion. 00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:28.600 Yes. 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.696 Is it the officer's recommendation that 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.416 you're moving? Councelor Pearce. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:34.376 Yes. 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.400 Thank you. Is there a seconder for that 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.440 motion? Thank you, Councelor Duncan. 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.056 Councelor Pearce, would you like to 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:43.416 speak to the motion? 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.440 Yes, I would. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:48.775 thought long and hard about this 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.535 application and I've weighed all the 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:52.936 factors involved and I've listened to my 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.176 residents. 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.015 I called up the application to have a 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.496 look at look at the application and 00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:02.056 understand my residents objections and 00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:05.080 concerns around it. 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:08.135 The application 00:24:08.159 --> 00:24:09.496 I've I've come to the following 00:24:09.520 --> 00:24:12.520 conclusions. A the application meets the 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.496 mandatory standards. 00:24:15.520 --> 00:24:17.576 It has met the mandatory standards under 00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:19.655 VC2667 00:24:19.679 --> 00:24:21.895 framework where is deemed to comply to 00:24:21.919 --> 00:24:24.856 the standards under clause 55 which 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.535 means we have no right to refuse the 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.559 application. 00:24:29.600 --> 00:24:32.600 B refusal will be indefensible at VCAT. 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.720 So basically because the previous 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:38.840 application for 18 has been approved, 00:24:39.600 --> 00:24:42.535 we could not put up it a defense at VCAT 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.775 for that. And also to be noted that 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.799 third parties cannot appeal to VCAT. 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.096 Three, the site has already been 00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:53.576 approved with a permit which I said 18 00:24:53.600 --> 00:24:56.600 houses were 18 units were already 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.720 approved under the previous permit. 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.176 the conditions. There's 30 conditions on 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.336 the property. 00:25:05.360 --> 00:25:07.255 I actually want to commend the planning 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.416 department for the conditions they put 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.440 up. The 30 conditions are substantive 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.440 protect legitimate public interest. They 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.696 address the partial non-compliance of 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.096 internal views, require comprehensive 00:25:21.120 --> 00:25:23.416 storm water management to avoid flooding 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.216 the impact neighbors mand mandatory 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.376 arborous supervision for street 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.456 protection and require detailed 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.535 construction management plan to protect 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.015 the local amenities during the build. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.576 However, 00:25:37.600 --> 00:25:39.496 I'm not allowed to take these conditions 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:42.520 into account, but they still weigh on my 00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:46.696 mind. 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:48.376 The surrounding neighborhood is 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.696 predominantly singlestory face brick 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.096 dwellings on generous setbacks and 00:25:53.120 --> 00:25:54.775 gardens. 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.799 24 doublestory dwellings on this site 00:25:57.840 --> 00:25:59.576 represents a significant change in the 00:25:59.600 --> 00:26:02.056 local character. 00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:04.856 It needs to be acknowledged the effects 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.255 on this corresponding area will be 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.279 significant. Taylor's Lane is a 50k road 00:26:11.840 --> 00:26:14.456 which will have increased parking 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.616 as all the properties only have one to 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.015 two car spaces and there's no visitor 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.039 parking. 00:26:22.159 --> 00:26:24.936 B the state government state planning 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.960 framework has reduced local democratic 00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:29.655 control. 00:26:29.679 --> 00:26:32.216 The combination of VC267 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:33.655 removing neighborhood character 00:26:33.679 --> 00:26:36.616 considerations, VC277 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.096 reducing car parking requirements, 00:26:39.120 --> 00:26:42.056 removal of objectors appeal rights means 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:44.296 that local residents and their elected 00:26:44.320 --> 00:26:47.320 representatives meaning council 00:26:47.360 --> 00:26:49.655 have significantly less capacity to 00:26:49.679 --> 00:26:51.976 influence an outcome under the previous 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.816 planning under the previous planning 00:26:53.840 --> 00:26:56.376 scheme. It appears to me that this poly 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.856 will result in an overpop populated hvel 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.255 of a suburb instead of our beautiful 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:04.279 treeline roville which it is at present. 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.880 I strongly suggest to these to the 00:27:08.159 --> 00:27:10.216 residents to speak and correspond with 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.056 their local member for Roseville 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:15.080 Kimwells about changing these policies. 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:18.535 On this basis, I cannot vote for the 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.856 proposal in good conscience as I feel it 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.936 does not meet the strategic intent of 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:24.775 the NOX planning scheme. Thank you, 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.736 Madame May. 00:27:27.760 --> 00:27:29.976 Thank you, Councelor Pearce. Councelor 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.576 Duncan, would you like to speak to the 00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:32.696 motion? 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.376 I'd just like to ask a question first 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.535 through you if that's okay, Mayor. Yes. 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.616 Um my understanding is that this 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.576 application has come back under the new 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:44.600 townhouse um code and I'm wondering what 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.015 the likely next steps in this matter 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.176 would be if council were to in fact 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.576 refuse the the granting of an 00:27:51.600 --> 00:27:52.775 application. 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.375 Thank you for your question. I'll direct 00:27:54.399 --> 00:27:56.936 that question to director Callaher. 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.176 Thank you madame Mayor through you. So 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.535 yes, this there's been a number of 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.296 applications at this site. council 00:28:02.320 --> 00:28:05.320 Pearce referenced. Um, as council is 00:28:05.760 --> 00:28:08.296 aware, the the state government and the 00:28:08.320 --> 00:28:09.655 minister for planning as part of the 00:28:09.679 --> 00:28:11.255 Victorian government has undertaken 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.015 quite significant reforms to the 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.576 planning system over the last around 2 00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:18.216 to three years. One such significant 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.216 reform is a complete change to what used 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.456 to be called res code, which was the 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.135 code in planning schemes to consider 00:28:24.159 --> 00:28:26.296 multi-unit applications. 00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:29.320 As of March 2025, a new code came into 00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:31.576 play and that's called the townhouse and 00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:34.600 low-rise code. And with that code came 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.535 many significant changes to the 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.216 Victorian planning system. So this is 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.936 not something that's just unique to NOX. 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.775 With that, it's called a deemed to 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.176 comply system. So if an application 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:46.936 achieves the standards in this new 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.736 system, then council cannot consider any 00:28:49.760 --> 00:28:52.296 strategic matters. it cannot consider um 00:28:52.320 --> 00:28:53.895 other parts of the NOX planning scheme 00:28:53.919 --> 00:28:56.456 or decision guidelines. Um and if an 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.416 application does comply, council has no 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.255 discretion to actually refuse an 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.736 application. It must approve it. So 00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:06.760 council has no ability to change a 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.056 position on an application such as this. 00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:12.375 When that code came in, there was also 00:29:12.399 --> 00:29:14.936 other significant changes. So while an 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.255 application can be advertised to 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.056 community, the minister has taken away 00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:21.976 the rights for community to actually 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.535 lodge an appeal with VCAT for any such 00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.775 application. So there's no longer that 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.255 avenue for community. 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.015 If council was to refuse this 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:32.856 application, my advice to the council 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.936 would be that that would be an invalid 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.336 decision. Council would be breaching the 00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.736 NOX planning scheme. Um and there would 00:29:39.760 --> 00:29:41.416 be multiple implications for that. Not 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.255 only that, it would give the applicant a 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.416 very clear course at the tribunal, there 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.015 could also be other questions the 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.696 applicant could raise about the validity 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.096 of council's decision- making. It would 00:29:51.120 --> 00:29:53.255 also raise the attention of the minister 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.015 and other bodies in relation to 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.496 council's competency in making planning 00:29:57.520 --> 00:30:00.520 decisions. 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.856 Thank you, Director Callaher. Would you 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:05.496 like to speak to your motion? 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:07.015 Um, I just want to make one minor 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.535 correction. Council appears, you stated 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.616 there was no visitor parking on this 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.375 site. There is in fact visitor parking 00:30:12.399 --> 00:30:15.399 per the officer's report. Um 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:17.255 I'm not sure that there's too much more 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.096 to say and thank you Director Keller for 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:21.895 the answer. Um if this has been deemed 00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:24.696 to comply, the the law's pretty 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.375 straightforward. We as a council must 00:30:26.399 --> 00:30:28.375 approve the application. There's there's 00:30:28.399 --> 00:30:30.775 no options for us to refuse it. And if 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.775 we were to the the ongoing ramifications 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.336 of that would be far worse. So um that's 00:30:35.360 --> 00:30:36.775 about all I need to say on this, I 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:37.655 think. Thank you. 00:30:37.679 --> 00:30:39.255 Thank you, councelor Duncan. Would any 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:40.856 other council like to speak to the 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.880 motion? Yes, councelor. 00:30:44.159 --> 00:30:45.976 just a question if I may. May 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:46.456 absolutely. 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.336 just further to um Mr. Kellaher's 00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:52.360 answer. So if a if a development meets 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.015 all of those deemed to comply standards, 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.096 sounds like we we must issue a permit. 00:30:57.120 --> 00:30:59.976 And just following on from if it if we 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.616 were to refuse one and end up at VCAT, 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.296 is there a ballpark of the sort of cost 00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:07.320 it would would we would incur or rate 00:31:07.600 --> 00:31:10.216 payers would incur to take take our seat 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.240 at the table there in defending it? 00:31:13.520 --> 00:31:15.655 So through you madame Mayor um yes 00:31:15.679 --> 00:31:17.976 council well it's correct. So council 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.496 doesn't have any discretion when an 00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:22.456 application complies with the standards. 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.775 council only has the ability to approve 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:26.696 an application in those in those 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.576 circumstances. The the cost point of 00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:32.375 view I suppose from a VCAT perspective 00:31:32.399 --> 00:31:34.135 wouldn't be at the tribunal there would 00:31:34.159 --> 00:31:36.135 be representation. It's what sort of 00:31:36.159 --> 00:31:39.096 legal risk council opens itself up to in 00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:41.096 terms of a legal challenge around a 00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:43.655 decision it has made that it's done so 00:31:43.679 --> 00:31:46.679 knowingly that it cannot refuse this 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.720 application. So I think it's beyond the 00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:51.816 VCAT and planning system where the 00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:54.840 potential risk um exists for council. 00:31:58.399 --> 00:32:00.856 Thank you. Mayor um this is a yeah this 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.176 is a one that I think this council is 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.176 seeing more of in terms of what 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.416 discretion we have and what ability we 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.375 have to refuse based on what we're 00:32:10.399 --> 00:32:12.456 hearing from our community. And I 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.096 applaud Councelor Pearce for um for 00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:17.255 moving the motion for discussion. It 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.895 sounds like um councelor Pearce won't be 00:32:19.919 --> 00:32:22.375 supporting it, but I think on balance um 00:32:22.399 --> 00:32:25.399 I have to um and it's not not without 00:32:25.679 --> 00:32:28.616 empathy and not without hearing the 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.856 residents who have taken time to 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.375 object and write to us about this 00:32:32.399 --> 00:32:33.895 application. Indeed, it's the Taylor's 00:32:33.919 --> 00:32:35.816 Lane is the is the boundary between 00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:38.135 Taylor Warden and Tahhatuan Ward. So, 00:32:38.159 --> 00:32:40.375 the people we've been hearing from are 00:32:40.399 --> 00:32:43.015 certainly part of um my ward across the 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.096 road as well. So, I don't um don't 00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:47.736 discount how local this is um to that 00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:50.535 central part of Roseville. Um the 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.375 concerns about density, about traffic, 00:32:52.399 --> 00:32:54.936 about, you know, car movements and and 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.895 and amenity and neighborhood impact, I I 00:32:57.919 --> 00:32:59.495 hear those loud and clear, but from the 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.176 answer we've we've had in the report 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.895 tonight, we cannot take those into 00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:06.456 account in making our decision. and the 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:07.816 officers have confirmed in the 00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:09.495 application that it complies with every 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:11.416 standard, the setbacks, the height, the 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.736 coverage, the overshadowing, the 00:33:13.760 --> 00:33:15.096 overlooking it. It's all there. There 00:33:15.120 --> 00:33:17.416 were referrals right across um council 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.375 and arriving at tonight's report. So, um 00:33:20.399 --> 00:33:22.375 we don't have discretion is what I'm 00:33:22.399 --> 00:33:24.535 hearing. And if we were to refuse this, 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.559 it would end up at VCAP um and it 00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:29.895 would just be simply ticked off and 00:33:29.919 --> 00:33:32.135 there would be a cost incurred for our 00:33:32.159 --> 00:33:33.895 rate payers right across NOX and we'd 00:33:33.919 --> 00:33:36.919 have nothing to show for it. So, um, I 00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:39.816 do empathize. I think we're going to see 00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:41.976 more of these and I think how we grapple 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.375 with these is quite difficult in we are 00:33:44.399 --> 00:33:45.976 the point of connection. We are the 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.576 closest to our community for good 00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:50.600 reason. Um, but the the the state has 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.096 set a planning framework that makes it 00:33:53.120 --> 00:33:54.535 very difficult for us to have any 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.559 discretion. Um, so I will somewhat 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:00.856 begrudgingly um support the officer 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.096 recommendation tonight and and for the 00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:04.616 community that's that's listening or 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.696 watching this back, I'm very happy to to 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.095 to chat and sit down with anyone that 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.016 wants to to talk about the predicament 00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:13.496 we're in when we are met with an 00:34:13.520 --> 00:34:16.055 application that ticks all the boxes um 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.696 and how we navigate and and advocate 00:34:18.720 --> 00:34:21.016 on their behalf in this new planning 00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:23.176 world. Thank you, Mayor. 00:34:23.200 --> 00:34:24.936 Thank you, Councelor Atwell. Would any 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:26.296 other council like to speak to the 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.095 motion? 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.095 Yes, Councelor Williams. 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.016 Thank you through you, Mayor. Um I think 00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:36.040 councelor Well pretty much said what I 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.815 was going to say. So, and he said it 00:34:37.839 --> 00:34:40.135 eloquently with with how he's put it. 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.159 Look, I you know, all too often we we're 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.176 presented with these issues. Now, at 00:34:45.200 --> 00:34:47.095 council, I think, you know, just this 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.256 year alone, we've had almost one every 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.655 meeting. So, I think we will see a lot 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.575 more. And I think councelor Atwells 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.135 mentioned that there. Um I I would like 00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:57.335 to also acknowledge that we have 00:34:57.359 --> 00:34:59.575 listened and we have received residents 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.376 emails on behalf of this project and and 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.456 they aren't ignored. They are listened 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.480 to by the entire councelor group. But as 00:35:07.839 --> 00:35:10.839 councelor Pearce has um again also said 00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:13.496 and she's very well done and represented 00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:16.296 her residents and um views. So well done 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:17.896 councelor Pearce on listening and thank 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.616 you for taking a stance on this one. 00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:23.640 um our hands are tied and and I would 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.176 like to also commend our officers. I 00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:28.200 think our um officers Matt and the team 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.216 um you know they do their best in these 00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:33.240 trying conditions and it's um you know 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:34.936 the new rules the new regulations are 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.856 making it hard and I think it's quite 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.095 apparent here that if it's deemed to 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.119 comply council or us as a council group 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.400 have no say in what happens in our area 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.776 and I you know I was just talking with 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.936 councelor Pearce earlier on that um 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.936 potentially you know we look at at 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.616 future council meetings not tonight that 00:35:54.640 --> 00:35:56.936 we perhaps bring up a a motion on behalf 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.456 of all the counselors that we suggest 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.136 that um you know council rights to 00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:01.575 parties such as MAV and the state 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.536 government and the departments 00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:06.776 to ask for them to review this policy. 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.095 So, um, and I think we also need to 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.496 publicly state cuz we obviously get the 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:14.520 the brunt of this, um, that we, 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.079 , we can't change these decisions. 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.216 And, um, so perhaps that we look at as a 00:36:22.240 --> 00:36:24.376 council group, that we publicly state 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.055 that we respect the character and the 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.216 neighborhoods and and traffic and all 00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.536 the concerns that are here, but that we 00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:31.976 can't do a lot about it. I think we just 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.416 need to be upfront and transparent about 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:34.936 that, and I think we need to make that a 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.016 stance on that as well. I think the 00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:39.416 state government needs to needs to 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.440 hear from MAV and um and this council 00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:45.416 around the changes that it's causing to 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.815 our local environment and area. And like 00:36:47.839 --> 00:36:49.256 councelor Ratwell mentioned, I think 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.736 it's hard. Um again, I'm going to have 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.256 to support this as well cuz there's no 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.256 way we can decline it based on, you 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.376 know, what we've heard tonight. And 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.856 thank you for director Gallagher for 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.376 um answering a lot of those questions. 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.376 But I think more still needs to be done 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.896 and perhaps we need to take a stance on 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.656 this in another way. and we'll leave 00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:07.176 that with the counselor group to 00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:09.575 discuss, but our hands are tied and I 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.496 think we just need to make that clear. 00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:14.055 Um, so I put it on record today that um 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.456 I think we've all said it and it makes 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.480 it hard for us to um really take a lot 00:37:19.520 --> 00:37:21.016 of action which is probably the sad part 00:37:21.040 --> 00:37:22.536 about it, but again likewise I'm 00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:23.496 probably going to have to support it 00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:24.856 based on the the merits that were 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.936 brought tonight. 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.936 Thank you. Councelor Williams, would any 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.776 other council like to speak? Yes, 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.055 councelor Low. 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.575 Thank you. I'm going to take a slightly 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.335 different view. Um I think it's a good 00:37:35.359 --> 00:37:37.976 development. The problem I have with it 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.496 as one of the correspondent about is the 00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:41.815 car parking. We've car parking has been 00:37:41.839 --> 00:37:43.335 a problem with for us for a number of 00:37:43.359 --> 00:37:45.815 years. Um there's there's limited 00:37:45.839 --> 00:37:48.536 parking on site although to say in their 00:37:48.560 --> 00:37:51.560 favor they've done um all the all the 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.216 wood dwellings have double garages and I 00:37:54.240 --> 00:37:56.136 think there's four visitor car parks 00:37:56.160 --> 00:37:58.776 except for the one garage is the tandem. 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.016 Um the problem comes when when you get 00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:03.176 four or five bedroomedroom units and we 00:38:03.200 --> 00:38:04.296 problem enough when there's two and 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.696 threebedroom units in my area. Um when 00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:07.896 you get four or five bedroomedroom 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.696 units, you can't imagine a double garage 00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:12.776 isn't going to cut it. Um so we're going 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:14.776 to end up with cars all over the street. 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.616 Absolutely nothing we can do. Nothing 00:38:16.640 --> 00:38:18.136 we've been able to do for a number of 00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:20.376 years. That's that's not new. Um that 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.696 part of it is not new. Um, so while 00:38:22.720 --> 00:38:24.856 we're complaining about the new rules, 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.536 the real the real number of the problem 00:38:26.560 --> 00:38:28.136 here is is what the parking is going to 00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:30.456 do to the area and it's going to be it's 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:31.976 going to be horrendous in my view if 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.696 you're going to have five different well 00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:36.296 potentially could be 10 cars to one 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.856 dwelling. So it's um it's going to be 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.136 going to be chaotic out there on 00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:42.456 Taylor's Lane. Although it is even 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.216 though it's a low-speed road, it is a 00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:46.936 major connector road. So it is an 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.095 important road. Um so the biggest 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.696 problems I said is the parking. The 00:38:50.720 --> 00:38:53.496 development itself has um some four and 00:38:53.520 --> 00:38:55.976 five bedroomedroom um town houses which 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.536 surprised me when I looked at it. and 00:38:58.560 --> 00:39:01.560 every bedroom has an on suite. So it's a 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.095 reasonably high quality although I 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.119 wonder why they all need on suite. Um 00:39:06.240 --> 00:39:07.896 it's a high quality development. I guess 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.416 they'll get some fairly high price for 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.656 that. And it's a major change to that 00:39:11.680 --> 00:39:13.815 particular part of Roville. I think it's 00:39:13.839 --> 00:39:15.815 just to the north of the larger blocks. 00:39:15.839 --> 00:39:18.696 We have we always in the planning scheme 00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:20.376 bigger the bigger than average blocks to 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.176 the south of of those and more more 00:39:23.200 --> 00:39:25.575 normal blocks around this development. 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.896 Um 24 of course is all I have on a site 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.920 but it's still 53% site coverage which 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.416 is reasonable I think and a reasonable 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.736 amount of open space per dwelling. I 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.896 think the development itself is quite 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.656 good and will be a reasonable addition 00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:42.680 good addition to the area. Um however I 00:39:42.720 --> 00:39:44.536 do have obviously serious doubts about 00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:46.216 the car parking which we've been 00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:47.896 frustrated about for a number of years 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.216 and or lost every appeal on the grounds 00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:52.456 of car parking. We never succeeded on 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.480 that one. So it is it is what it is. Um, 00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:58.456 and we're going to have to, I think, 00:39:58.480 --> 00:39:59.896 start planning ahead what we're going to 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.296 do with some of these. If I don't if we 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.896 all we have to do is rubber stamp them 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.456 or um we can develop an approach. We can 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.376 develop an ad advocacy approach once we 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.216 fully understand 00:40:10.240 --> 00:40:12.296 um the new planning rules. Um, I 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:13.815 wouldn't be going off just yet. I'd want 00:40:13.839 --> 00:40:16.216 to be working through the rules to see 00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:18.776 what effect they do actually have on our 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.656 on our development applications. Um 00:40:21.680 --> 00:40:23.496 we've lost neighborhood character which 00:40:23.520 --> 00:40:26.456 to me is the biggest biggest loss. We I 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:27.656 remember implementing neighborhood 00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:30.680 character around about 2001 or two. Um 00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:32.616 and now we've lost that part of it. It 00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:34.376 needs to 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.376 be reestablished although that would 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.296 great expense that would cost us a lot 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.256 of money. So there are perhaps ways 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.656 forward but I think for the moment we 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.095 need to deal with the scheme that we've 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.176 got a scheme that the government's put 00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.736 in our lap. So that's what it is. Thank 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:50.696 you. 00:40:50.720 --> 00:40:52.296 Thank you, councelor Lockwood. Would any 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.055 other council like to speak? Yes, 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.736 councelor Baker. 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.176 Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Kenn. I'll 00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:59.496 keep it very brief. Um, I just wanted to 00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:02.055 also acknowledge that I've also read the 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.079 feedback received um from residents. I 00:41:05.359 --> 00:41:08.136 acknowledge I have read those and I I 00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:11.160 empathize with their concerns. Um but as 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.376 u many council have mentioned the the 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.176 new and I thank god director callaher 00:41:17.200 --> 00:41:19.815 too for his responses that it's in a 00:41:19.839 --> 00:41:21.976 really challenging position u with the 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.000 new regs that have changed um and you 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.335 know that potentially the frustration 00:41:27.359 --> 00:41:28.616 that some of these residents are going 00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:30.776 to have. Um but I just wanted to 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.736 acknowledge that and in a position where 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.575 it's it's very challenging and I hear 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.376 them. Um, but it's one of those ones 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.856 that um I'm I'm going to have to support 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.376 the officer's recommendation for this 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.016 evening. 00:41:45.040 --> 00:41:46.696 Thank you, councelor Baker. Would any 00:41:46.720 --> 00:41:48.136 other council like to speak to the 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:51.160 motion? 00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:54.680 before I pass to Councelor Pearce for 00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:58.055 her closing statements, I'd just like 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.696 to let residents know that when we met 00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:03.720 with Liberal members last week, we 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.295 raised this as an item of concern with 00:42:06.319 --> 00:42:09.319 them. we'll continue raising this 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.896 with other state members so that they're 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.376 aware of how these planning policy 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.776 decisions are affecting our residents. 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.800 again, if this is an issue that is 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.055 close to you and affecting you, our 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.936 state members need to hear from you too. 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.016 Um thank you councelor Pearce. I'll pass 00:42:27.040 --> 00:42:30.040 to you for your closing comment. 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.400 This this street that this is on is a 00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.815 50k zone. 00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:38.776 It's like councelor Atwell says it 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.656 borders between our two wards. It's a 00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:44.216 suburban road. 00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:47.240 You're putting a development of 24 units 00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:50.680 on this site. Parking is going to be 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.736 horrendous. I'm sorry. There's no other 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.760 word for it. To think that people can 00:42:57.200 --> 00:43:00.200 have park one car and not have multiple 00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:03.720 cars when you've got multiple bedrooms 00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:07.240 in a dwelling is crazy. 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.536 I suggest to my residents, phone your 00:43:10.560 --> 00:43:13.560 local member. We've raised it with them. 00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:17.240 Speak to them. Send your petitions. Send 00:43:17.839 --> 00:43:20.839 send anything you can to to speak to 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.496 them about changing this law. This is 00:43:23.520 --> 00:43:25.976 ridiculous. Like it's turning our 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.000 beautiful Roville leafy streets 00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:33.256 and beautiful what? Single story single 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.936 dwellings 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.335 into a car park filled with a whole 00:43:37.359 --> 00:43:40.136 variety of different town houses. 00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:41.976 They're pushing more and more onto these 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.575 blocks. 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.136 I honestly feel for you. I travel down 00:43:46.160 --> 00:43:48.536 that road each day. 00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:51.560 I traveled on it today going to council. 00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:54.776 I'd love to sit down and talk to you 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:56.216 some more and see if we can really 00:43:56.240 --> 00:43:59.240 advocate state members, 00:43:59.359 --> 00:44:02.359 but I'm sorry. I'm going to vote no. 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.856 And I'm I hope that you'll understand 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.880 the reason my reasons for voting no. 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.376 And to my fellow councilors, I'm going 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.400 to vote to reject it. Thank you. 00:44:15.839 --> 00:44:18.055 Thank you, councelor Pearce. I'll put 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.079 the motion all those in favor. 00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:25.640 All those against. 00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.800 that motion is carried. 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.656 councelor Pearce has called a 00:44:31.680 --> 00:44:34.680 division. So I will set that motion 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.800 aside and I will put the motion 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.079 again. All those in favor, 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.496 councelor Duncan, councelor Lockwood, 00:44:43.520 --> 00:44:45.815 councelor Kennet, councelor Considine, 00:44:45.839 --> 00:44:47.815 councelor Atwell, councelor Williams, 00:44:47.839 --> 00:44:50.456 councelor Baker, councelor Cooper, all 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.480 those against. Councelor Pearce. That 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:56.920 motion has been carried. 00:44:58.560 --> 00:45:01.256 We now move on to item seven, public 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.136 question time. Council allocates 30 00:45:04.160 --> 00:45:06.055 minutes to consider questions from the 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:07.575 community. I'd like to take this 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.335 opportunity to remind everyone that 00:45:09.359 --> 00:45:11.335 public question time is not your only 00:45:11.359 --> 00:45:14.216 opportunity to engage with council. If 00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:16.055 you have questions, I encourage you to 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:17.976 consider contacting council through our 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.136 usual channels, including through our 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:21.896 customer service team or via our 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.136 website. I would also encourage everyone 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:26.776 to make the most of have your say to 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.376 access information about current 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.616 projects and to submit questions or 00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:33.016 provide feedback on them. Our protocols 00:45:33.040 --> 00:45:34.776 for submitting and considering public 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.456 questions set out in council's 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.616 governance rules which include an 00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:40.776 opportunity for submitters to lodge a 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.095 maximum of two questions and for 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.776 submitters to speak to their questions 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.335 for up to 2 minutes. Copies of all 00:45:47.359 --> 00:45:49.256 questions submitted are circulated to 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.815 counselors in full inclusive of any 00:45:51.839 --> 00:45:54.376 commentary. Before we move to questions, 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.295 I'll remind submitters that this is an 00:45:56.319 --> 00:45:58.776 opportunity to introduce your questions 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.776 you have already submitted, not an 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.936 opportunity to participate in debate or 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.176 an opportunity to change or add to the 00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:06.536 questions that you have already 00:46:06.560 --> 00:46:08.295 submitted. 00:46:08.319 --> 00:46:10.456 By choosing to participate, submitters 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.536 acknowledge that your name, submissions, 00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:14.616 and your image are being captured and 00:46:14.640 --> 00:46:17.016 may be broadcast on the live stream and 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:19.335 recording. I also remind you that you 00:46:19.359 --> 00:46:20.936 are personally responsible for your own 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.536 comments and therefore may be personally 00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:24.536 liable for any loss or damage they may 00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:27.560 cause. I would also like to ask for 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.416 respect to be afforded to all 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.736 participants and that the gallery remain 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.055 silent when people are speaking. We'll 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.079 now move on to our questions. 00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:40.520 We have question one from Vanessa Hall. 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.256 Are you here with us tonight, Vanessa? 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:44.696 Would you like to come up to the lect 00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:47.720 turn? 00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.016 I can read your question for you if you 00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:53.335 like. Yes. And then you'll have an 00:46:53.359 --> 00:46:54.936 opportunity to speak to your question if 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.656 you would like. Okay. 00:46:57.680 --> 00:46:59.815 Um, our governance rules provide that no 00:46:59.839 --> 00:47:01.256 person may submit more than two 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.335 questions at any one meeting. And based 00:47:03.359 --> 00:47:05.256 on this rule, I do not have discretion 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.055 to admit additional questions. You've 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.896 submitted two questions, but each of 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.055 them are multi-part questions with a 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.616 total of five questions in all. I'll 00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:16.856 read your first two questions and ask 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.696 officers to provide you with a written 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:21.575 response to all questions. 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.976 Those responses will also be provided to 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.616 all counselors and published online 00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:28.536 alongside the agenda and minutes of 00:47:28.560 --> 00:47:30.536 tonight's meeting. So all residents will 00:47:30.560 --> 00:47:33.016 have access to your question and and the 00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:35.256 answers um in response to your 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.416 questions. So for the first two 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.815 questions um as they're related, would 00:47:39.839 --> 00:47:42.295 you like to read like me to read both 00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:43.976 of your questions and then provide you 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.216 with an opportunity to speak? Thank you 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:49.240 Vanessa. Your first question was given 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.280 the proposed 24 to 26 Taylor's Lane 24 00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:55.496 twotory dwelling development adjoining 00:47:55.520 --> 00:47:58.520 our 1 acre septic service property. We 00:47:58.720 --> 00:48:00.776 are concerned about the potential impact 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.416 of this scale of urban intensification 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.376 on the ongoing functionality of existing 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.335 on-site wastewater system in the 00:48:09.359 --> 00:48:12.359 surrounding area with articulated sewer 00:48:13.359 --> 00:48:16.359 infrastructure located approximately 200 00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:19.560 to 250 m from our boundary and noting 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.736 that the proposed development will 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.136 connect to this system. Could council 00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:26.535 please clarify whether consideration has 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.559 been given to how increased density may 00:48:29.680 --> 00:48:32.295 alter local site conditions such as 00:48:32.319 --> 00:48:35.095 groundwater behavior and storm water 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.736 movement and in turn affect the land 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.376 capability of neighboring properties 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.400 currently reliant on septic systems. And 00:48:43.680 --> 00:48:46.456 then your second question was further 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:48.376 does council have a position on whether 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.776 developments of this scale may trigger 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.095 the need to assess future transition 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.575 from on-site waste water to reticulated 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.456 sewer servicing in adjoining low density 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.256 areas where continued septic reliance 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.416 may become unsuitable due to surrounding 00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.416 intensification. 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.095 Vanessa, you do have two minutes to 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.095 speak to your questions. Did you want to 00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.055 come up to the lect turn and and speak 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.079 to your questions? 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.136 Thank you, Vanessa. You have two 00:49:20.160 --> 00:49:22.376 minutes. Um, so I'm just really 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.400 concerned with the I understand progress 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:28.920 development. So, but with a lot of the 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.496 um area that we're in, um, we're all 00:49:31.520 --> 00:49:33.896 still on septic systems. We're not even 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:36.216 connected to the town sewer. I mean, how 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:37.736 is that even possible in this day and 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.760 age when we're in that area and how this 00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:43.976 24 development is right next door to us 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.456 and our septic system runs almost within 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:47.976 meters of this property. So, I don't 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.456 even know how that is even allowed. So, 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.616 that's our major concern and how that's 00:49:52.640 --> 00:49:54.696 going to affect our septic system and 00:49:54.720 --> 00:49:56.936 our poor elderly neighbors behind us as 00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.960 well. So, that's my big thing. 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.616 Thank you, Vanessa. I'm going to ask 00:50:02.640 --> 00:50:04.535 Director Callaher to respond to your 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.559 questions. Thank you. 00:50:09.359 --> 00:50:11.736 thank you for your question, Vanessa, 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.176 regarding the proposed development at 00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:15.335 2426 Taylor's Lane and its potential 00:50:15.359 --> 00:50:16.776 implications for surrounding properties 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.616 that rely on on-site wastewater 00:50:18.640 --> 00:50:21.335 management systems. And Vanessa, like 00:50:21.359 --> 00:50:22.856 the Mayor mentioned, because you had 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.696 five questions, I'm just answering two 00:50:24.720 --> 00:50:26.776 this evening, but this week we'll send 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.696 you a full response to all five 00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:31.575 questions in writing. Um the other thing 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.335 to probably note is that there's a 00:50:33.359 --> 00:50:35.335 zoning difference between the area to 00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:38.136 the north of um this land including 00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:39.815 Murray Cresant and beyond and to the 00:50:39.839 --> 00:50:41.416 south which is still in lowdensity 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.440 residential zone. Um as you're no doubt 00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:46.055 aware the planning application for this 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.496 proposal was considered earlier in 00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:48.696 tonight's council meeting and it was 00:50:48.720 --> 00:50:50.936 approved by council. The assessment of 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:52.055 the planning application for this 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:53.736 development is limited to matters listed 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.456 in clause 55 of the NOX planning scheme. 00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.136 I note that the rules for assessing new 00:50:58.160 --> 00:50:59.976 housing applications were significantly 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.216 changed last year by the state 00:51:02.240 --> 00:51:03.416 government to limit the number of 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.856 matters that can be considered by 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.335 council as well as limiting the ability 00:51:07.359 --> 00:51:09.176 of objectors to seek review and 00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:12.200 decisions at VCAT. In this case, the 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:13.976 assessment as shown in the officer 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:15.896 report does not include assessment of 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.976 groundwater impacts as sites move from 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.976 septic systems to reticulated sewage 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.776 systems. As the proposed dwellings will 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.376 connect to the reticulated sewer 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.295 infrastructure, waste water from the 00:51:26.319 --> 00:51:27.896 development will not be treated on site 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.656 and therefore will not directly increase 00:51:29.680 --> 00:51:31.976 septic effluent loading within the local 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.000 soil profile. If approved, any issued 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:36.936 planning permit will require storm water 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.776 plans and civil engineering 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.335 documentation to ensure post-development 00:51:41.359 --> 00:51:43.256 conditions from storm water do not cause 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.335 unreasonable detriment to surrounding 00:51:45.359 --> 00:51:47.736 dwelling dwellings or the local storm 00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.136 water drainage system. And in relation 00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:52.696 to your second question, it is a 00:51:52.720 --> 00:51:53.815 requirement that developments that have 00:51:53.839 --> 00:51:56.295 an urban density, so generally a density 00:51:56.319 --> 00:51:57.896 greater than one dwelling per 4,000 00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.976 square meters, depending on the zoning, 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.216 be connected to reticulated sewer where 00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:04.535 available. Over time, many areas of 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.976 Melbourne have transitioned to be 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.496 connected to the reticulated sewer 00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:09.736 system as the city has grown and become 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.376 more urbanized. Regarding the long-term 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.055 suitability of on-site wastewater 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.295 management systems within Knox, the 00:52:16.319 --> 00:52:18.295 review of council's municipal domestic 00:52:18.319 --> 00:52:20.456 wastewater management plan will include 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.136 an advocacy approach to work with the 00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:24.535 load local water authority, Southeast 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:27.559 Water, to have the approximately 140 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.136 remaining properties within Knox and 00:52:30.160 --> 00:52:33.160 their um in various parts of Knox that 00:52:33.359 --> 00:52:36.055 rely on on-site wastewater treatment to 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.216 be connected to reticulated sewer 00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:41.240 services over time. 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.559 Thank you, Director Callaher. 00:52:47.839 --> 00:52:50.839 , we have Mr. Scott Watkins joining us 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.960 online with audio only. Mr. Watkins, can 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.136 you unmute yourself and confirm that you 00:52:56.160 --> 00:52:59.160 can hear us? 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:04.216 Have you got me? 00:53:04.240 --> 00:53:06.055 Thank you, Mr. Watkins. Yes, I can hear 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:06.216 you. 00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:08.456 Thank you. Cheers. , I propose that 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.295 I'll read your question and then you'll 00:53:10.319 --> 00:53:12.216 have two minutes to speak to your 00:53:12.240 --> 00:53:13.176 question. 00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:15.095 Yep. No problem at all. Thank you. 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.119 Thank you. Could the Knox Council please 00:53:18.319 --> 00:53:20.136 advise on the current process and 00:53:20.160 --> 00:53:22.776 procurement method for all document and 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.736 signage, printing and production? 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.736 Mr. Watkins, you now have two minutes to 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.896 speak to your question. 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.976 Thank you, councilors. , , look, 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.656 good evening. certainly as a small 00:53:33.680 --> 00:53:35.976 business owner and somebody that is 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.616 certainly involved in community and I've 00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:40.776 attended a number of workshops on 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.335 procurement with the city of Knox. I 00:53:43.359 --> 00:53:45.016 attend a number of business networking 00:53:45.040 --> 00:53:47.416 opportunity meetings. I monitor tenders 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.016 within the local government and purchase 00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:51.256 buys and I'm just intrigued to 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.335 understand how the printing procurement 00:53:53.359 --> 00:53:55.815 process happens at the city of Knox. I 00:53:55.839 --> 00:53:57.656 do understand from my conversations with 00:53:57.680 --> 00:53:59.896 the procurement team some 12 18 months 00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.376 ago that there was going to be a tender 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.055 and I understand the tender still has 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.079 not been released. So with a no tender 00:54:07.359 --> 00:54:09.736 and no structure in place at the moment 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.575 I would like to understand just how that 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.656 procurement process works for printed 00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:15.416 and signage matters within the local 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:18.440 council. 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.496 Thank you Mr. Watkins. I'll put your 00:54:21.520 --> 00:54:23.575 question to the chief financial officer 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.599 Nik Len. 00:54:28.160 --> 00:54:30.535 Thank you Mayor and thank you Scott for 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.535 your question regarding the procurement 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.456 method for signage printing and 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.480 production. the response I am going 00:54:37.839 --> 00:54:40.295 to provide you with does relate to all 00:54:40.319 --> 00:54:42.696 procurement activities as the same 00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:45.176 process is applicable to all our goods 00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:47.976 and services. So all procurements 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.295 undertaken by council are conducted in 00:54:50.319 --> 00:54:51.815 accordance with the Knox council 00:54:51.839 --> 00:54:54.776 procurement policy which is publicly 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.496 available on council's website. The 00:54:57.520 --> 00:55:00.136 procurement approach adopted depends on 00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:02.535 the estimated value of the goods or 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.335 services being procured. Lower value 00:55:05.359 --> 00:55:07.095 purchases may be sourced through a 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.575 quotation process while higher value 00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:11.815 procurements require a formal tender 00:55:11.839 --> 00:55:14.839 process consistent with the thresholds 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.815 as they're set out in the policy. 00:55:17.839 --> 00:55:19.976 The procurement policy also reflects 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.136 council's commitment to environmental, 00:55:22.160 --> 00:55:24.216 local, and social economic 00:55:24.240 --> 00:55:25.736 sustainability. 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.295 A mandatory minimum evaluation waiting 00:55:28.319 --> 00:55:31.095 of 10% is applied to at least one of 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.896 these criteria in all procurements, 00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.136 ensuring these considerations form part 00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:39.095 of the assessment process. Suppliers 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.575 interested in providing services can 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.055 register via via council's tendering 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:45.976 portal and it does sound like you have 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.936 already registered for that. Um and if 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.960 there are tenders um that are are raised 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.936 on there, you will receive notifications 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.960 as they are released. in addition, 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.216 council is currently developing an 00:56:00.240 --> 00:56:03.240 interested supplier form expected to be 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.416 available on the website later this year 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.656 that will enable local businesses to 00:56:07.680 --> 00:56:09.736 formally register their interest in 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.456 supplying goods and services to council 00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.480 for procurement opportunities. 00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:19.736 Thank you Nette and thank you Mr. 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.535 Watkins for your question. question 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.335 three from Ashley Morgan Shay. Are you 00:56:25.359 --> 00:56:28.359 with us tonight? Thank you Ashley. Um I 00:56:29.520 --> 00:56:32.520 will note that 00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:37.079 you have submitted two questions. As 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.335 your two questions are related, would 00:56:39.359 --> 00:56:41.575 you like me to read both your questions 00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:43.335 and then provide you with an opportunity 00:56:43.359 --> 00:56:45.656 to speak to both your questions? 00:56:45.680 --> 00:56:48.680 No. Okay. So, I'll ask each question 00:56:49.520 --> 00:56:52.520 one at a time. 00:56:52.799 --> 00:56:54.136 You would like to ask your own 00:56:54.160 --> 00:56:57.160 questions? Yes. Okay. All right. then 00:56:57.200 --> 00:56:58.775 I'll pass over to you. You have two 00:56:58.799 --> 00:57:00.456 minutes. 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.480 Nox dam pursues punitive plan. Animal 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.616 management officers are used for door 00:57:06.640 --> 00:57:09.016 knocking, inspections, tracking pet 00:57:09.040 --> 00:57:12.040 sales, etc. to issue fines and to force 00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:13.896 registration. 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.920 Over 80% of Knox's impounded cats are 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.119 homeless with no one to contain them, no 00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:23.240 one to charge, costly to convict. 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.216 Registration gives nothing to Knox cat 00:57:26.240 --> 00:57:29.240 owners, not the four dog parks, not the 00:57:29.359 --> 00:57:32.055 non-inclusive pets in the park, not the 00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:35.079 over 300 dog unleash parks, reserves, or 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.416 sports fields. 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.055 Community CAP program's partnership 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:43.079 model costs less than council currently 00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.119 pays for punitive impoundments, 00:57:46.319 --> 00:57:49.319 allowing AMOS to help welfare of both 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.480 dogs and cats, partnering with not 00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:56.680 punishing rescuers and carers. 00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.496 The Australian Pet Welfare Foundation 00:57:59.520 --> 00:58:01.976 guides are easily followed to implement 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:05.000 targeted intensive dissexing to reduce 00:58:05.520 --> 00:58:07.256 population. 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.136 Jennifer Cotarel's program found that 00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:13.160 the sexing expenditure of $77,000 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.920 saved Banuel over a million. 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:20.920 High intensity dexing is 60 cats per,000 00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:24.680 residents. Medium 30 cats per thousand 00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.440 residents. low 10 cats per thousand 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.136 residents. 00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:33.160 Damp planned pursuing punitive measures 00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:36.200 results in greater impounds in greater 00:58:36.319 --> 00:58:39.016 wildlife deaths and greater costs to 00:58:39.040 --> 00:58:40.775 council. 00:58:40.799 --> 00:58:43.416 Knox follows Jara Rangers failure on 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.440 unowned cats which also costs Casey 00:58:46.640 --> 00:58:49.640 around 1.83 million annually. 00:58:50.720 --> 00:58:53.575 Implementing comm community cat program 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.599 dexing costs less than coox is currently 00:58:58.160 --> 00:59:01.016 paying for impoundments. 00:59:01.040 --> 00:59:04.040 Why is this no dam plan raising council 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.960 expense? 00:59:09.040 --> 00:59:10.856 Thank you. Thank you Shay. That's your 00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:11.815 first question. 00:59:11.839 --> 00:59:13.496 Do I speak to it now? 00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:16.295 00:59:16.319 --> 00:59:19.319 do do I speak to the question now? Um 00:59:20.160 --> 00:59:22.136 that that was your 2 minutes. 00:59:22.160 --> 00:59:25.160 Oh um no. Damian said I had 2 minutes 00:59:25.200 --> 00:59:28.200 after it to speak to the question today. 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:30.616 I wondered if it was 1 minute so I timed 00:59:30.640 --> 00:59:33.640 it at 2 minutes but it's a bit less. 00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:34.936 Thank you. 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:37.960 But he told me that. 00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:41.575 okay. Well on on that adisement I'll 00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:43.335 give you your two minutes to your 00:59:43.359 --> 00:59:43.656 question. 00:59:43.680 --> 00:59:45.896 I rang to find out today and that's what 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.256 I was told. 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.280 Okay. All right. Damp's punitive model 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.696 means greater council spending and 00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:55.416 worsens outcomes for animals, rescuers, 00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.055 carers, and renters. Casey and Yara 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.775 Rangers shows that punitive 24-hour cat 01:00:00.799 --> 01:00:03.799 curfews are expensive failures. Casey's 01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:07.160 27 years of 24-hour lifetime lockdown 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.599 has risen empoundments by 680%. 01:00:11.359 --> 01:00:14.359 Casey incurs annual estimated costs of 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.559 1.83 million. Many in Knox struggle to 01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:21.160 feed families and pay rent. When council 01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:23.496 adds more burdens, then more animals 01:00:23.520 --> 01:00:26.295 suffer. Why turn animal management 01:00:26.319 --> 01:00:29.319 officers into ICE police on pet parents, 01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:31.575 fronting up to private properties, 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.376 forcing fines, greater impounding, 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.696 driving up the homeless population, and 01:00:36.720 --> 01:00:39.720 greater council expense. Australians 01:00:39.839 --> 01:00:42.839 rebel against punishing laws. Empathy 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.736 cannot be outlawed. Partnership 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.295 community CAT programs help people live 01:00:48.319 --> 01:00:50.775 and afford to care for animals. 01:00:50.799 --> 01:00:53.256 Punishing removes livability, removes 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.216 well-being, removes respect. When rate 01:00:56.240 --> 01:00:58.535 payers money is spent, then results are 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.335 expected, not the rising cost by 01:01:01.359 --> 01:01:04.295 following this punitive plan. 01:01:04.319 --> 01:01:07.319 Thanks. 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.575 You want me to press a button? 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.896 Yes. Thank you. I'll put your question 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.216 to Director Callaher. Thank you. 01:01:18.240 --> 01:01:19.496 through you, Madame May. Thank you 01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:21.976 for your question, Ashley. And I'm aware 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.136 you've got another one to follow. As 01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:25.416 detailed in the officer report 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.416 containing this evening's agenda, the 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:29.016 vast majority of actions contained in 01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:31.815 the 2026 2029 domestic animal management 01:01:31.839 --> 01:01:33.896 plan will be implemented within existing 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.055 operational budgets. However, where 01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:37.656 appropriate, additional work is required 01:01:37.680 --> 01:01:39.256 to investigate the implementation of a 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.176 number of initiatives which is likely to 01:01:41.200 --> 01:01:42.856 include funds allocated through future 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.335 budget processes. No additional funds 01:01:45.359 --> 01:01:46.775 have been allocated to deliver actions 01:01:46.799 --> 01:01:49.335 in the 2526 financial year and the cost 01:01:49.359 --> 01:01:50.775 of the animal management service is not 01:01:50.799 --> 01:01:52.136 increasing as a result of the proposed 01:01:52.160 --> 01:01:54.216 damp in 2526. 01:01:54.240 --> 01:01:55.896 You'll be aware that the damp the draft 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:57.335 damp that's being considered this 01:01:57.359 --> 01:01:59.176 evening includes an action to 01:01:59.200 --> 01:02:01.335 investigate how a cat a community cat 01:02:01.359 --> 01:02:03.976 program or cat desexing program could be 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.000 implemented at Nox. 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.960 Thank you Director Keller. Um Ashley, 01:02:12.799 --> 01:02:15.799 your second question is has no Knox not 01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:19.960 actioned motion 187 community CAB 01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:23.640 program intensive targeted desexing of 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.535 cats for clarity. You've submitted an 01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:28.696 extensive preamble which has been 01:02:28.720 --> 01:02:31.720 circulated to council. You have now two 01:02:31.839 --> 01:02:33.416 minutes to speak to that second 01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.440 question. 01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:40.936 got the experience 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.960 cuz I did ask Damian um do I have two 01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:47.176 minutes one minute for each one or two 01:02:47.200 --> 01:02:49.256 minutes for each to speak to afterwards 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:50.936 after he read them and he said that I'd 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.176 have two minutes to speak to each one 01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:54.136 afterwards. 01:02:54.160 --> 01:02:57.160 So I'll read your question then and 01:02:57.200 --> 01:02:59.016 I'll read the Oh, do you want to read my 01:02:59.040 --> 01:03:01.095 question and I then speak to it? 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:02.616 I will read your question and then 01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:03.896 you'll have two minutes to 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:04.856 Oh, thank you. 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:06.936 Yes. 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.176 Um, 01:03:09.200 --> 01:03:12.200 why has NOX not actioned motion 187 01:03:12.640 --> 01:03:15.015 community cat program intensive targeted 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.039 desexing for cats? Your preamble is 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:21.079 counted within your two minutes. Ashley 01:03:26.319 --> 01:03:28.535 is the formal one and this one is the 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.559 experience of why. 01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.496 Do you want me to sit down and then I 01:03:33.520 --> 01:03:35.256 start again after the next person 01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:37.736 because I will have to cut down quite a 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:38.775 lot. 01:03:38.799 --> 01:03:41.335 your your question is the last 01:03:41.359 --> 01:03:43.496 question here Ashley. So you have two 01:03:43.520 --> 01:03:45.095 minutes to speak to your question. We've 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:47.335 also received all your collateral 01:03:47.359 --> 01:03:49.416 that you've provided. So we're happy for 01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.416 you to speak for two minutes. Now, 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.440 you haven't heard a lot of this. Um, 01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:00.856 can we have a short break and then I cut 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.575 down a lot because I did trust and I had 01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:06.055 a long conversation with Damian this 01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:06.775 morning. So, 01:04:06.799 --> 01:04:09.799 I understand Ashley. Um, I um counselors 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:11.976 have read your preamble. So, we do 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.216 understand the the context of your 01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:16.696 question. So, if you'd like, you've got 01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:18.376 two minutes to speak to your question 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:21.400 now. We we are listening. 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.456 A NOX feasibility report has been made 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.095 by Jennifer Cotel who made community cat 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:29.095 programs and published peer-reviewed 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.896 research. Management of cat populations 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.696 in New South Wales inquiry government 01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:37.095 response recognizes that the sexing is 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.496 the most effective way of reducing stray 01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:42.520 cat populations in targeted accessible 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.960 setexing programs. Removing cats from 01:04:46.319 --> 01:04:48.856 being seen increases risk of disease 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.736 with rats resistance to rats sack. 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.055 Second generation rodent sides are so 01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.136 potent that they are bound in the banned 01:04:56.160 --> 01:04:58.216 in the United States, Canada and 01:04:58.240 --> 01:05:01.240 European Union. The poison makes it way 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:03.416 up the food chain and kills other 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.575 animals in a huge risk to Australia's 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:07.416 biodiversity. 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.136 Police recognize Australian violence to 01:05:10.160 --> 01:05:12.456 cats has links to crimes of violence 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.480 against women and sexual crimes. Male 01:05:15.520 --> 01:05:18.055 incelss liken the screams of a cat to 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.079 the screams of a woman. On Knox trains, 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.335 I have seen teenagers comparing the 01:05:23.359 --> 01:05:25.656 knives they are carrying. Another time 01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:27.736 in front of a train door, a young man 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.216 standing repeatedly saying, "Stabbed her 01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:31.656 to death." 01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:34.680 Emma Hurst MLC states cat containment 01:05:35.359 --> 01:05:38.359 laws are simply cat killing laws. 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.335 The community cat programs target 01:05:41.359 --> 01:05:44.359 Victoria's 90% of stray homeless cats. 01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:48.119 Punitive cat curfews target just the 10% 01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:51.656 of pet parents. It is not respon 01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:54.680 irresponsible owners. Plans need to be t 01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:58.200 targeted correctly for for solution. 01:06:00.799 --> 01:06:02.856 Um, 01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.656 and not actioning 01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:08.680 intensive targeted dissexing is more 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.335 expensive and places more pressure on 01:06:11.359 --> 01:06:13.815 already struggling carers and and 01:06:13.839 --> 01:06:16.376 rescuers, causing more homeless kittens 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.400 to be born, dividing cat and dog care to 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.575 have knots and halves and less 01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.599 livability, less safety for felines and 01:06:25.200 --> 01:06:28.200 females. So I would like to find out why 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.400 all the actions in it and the help for 2 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.000 years is for dogs but nothing for cats 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.696 because a report can be made a 01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:42.856 feasibility and with all due diligence 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.496 can be made within a few hours as Jenny 01:06:45.520 --> 01:06:48.520 Cotel has done during a bushfire 01:06:48.799 --> 01:06:51.176 surrounding her home. Thank you very 01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:53.015 much for your question Ashley. You did 01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:54.775 very well. Thank you. I'm going to pass 01:06:54.799 --> 01:06:56.616 that question on to director 01:06:56.640 --> 01:06:59.416 Callaher. 01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.256 So madame Mayor through you the question 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:03.416 that I have is why has Nox not actioned 01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.976 motion so notice of motion 187's 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:07.896 community cat program intensive targeted 01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:09.335 desexing for cats. So that's the 01:07:09.359 --> 01:07:10.616 question I'm responding to. 01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:13.176 Thank you. 01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:15.335 Um, amongst other matters, dot.2 of the 01:07:15.359 --> 01:07:17.896 notice motion 187 specifically required 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.535 officers to amend the draft damp to 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:22.376 include an action to investigate how a 01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.376 community cat program or cat desexing 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:26.616 program could be implanted at NOX. A 01:07:26.640 --> 01:07:27.976 using evidence provided by the 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.896 Australian Pet Welfare Foundation and 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.896 other available peer-reviewed evidence 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:33.575 relating to cat containment and welfare 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.376 of cats, including so B including 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.295 proactive microtargeted desexing 01:07:38.319 --> 01:07:39.575 initiatives as demonstrated in the city 01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.216 of Banure. C considering any animal 01:07:42.240 --> 01:07:43.896 management cost savings generated by 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.976 such program and D with the target 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.616 completion date of December 2026. That 01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:50.696 was the part of the wording of not 01:07:50.720 --> 01:07:53.720 notice of motion 187. The proposed 2026 01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.559 2029 damp action 4.04 has faithfully 01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.295 implemented notice of motion 187 01:08:00.319 --> 01:08:02.295 requiring officers to investigate how a 01:08:02.319 --> 01:08:04.216 community cat program or cat desexing 01:08:04.240 --> 01:08:06.136 program could be implemented with a 01:08:06.160 --> 01:08:07.896 report due back to council by December 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.856 2026. Any investigation into these types 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:12.216 of programs will include an assessment 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:14.055 of available data information, 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.056 legislative compliance, benefits of 01:08:16.080 --> 01:08:17.815 existing or alternate approaches to cap 01:08:17.839 --> 01:08:19.576 management, and financial implications 01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:21.096 in accordance with the requirements of 01:08:21.120 --> 01:08:23.896 notice of motion 187. 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.920 Thank you, C. thank you Director 01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.576 Keller. Thank you to our residents 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.056 for submitting those questions. We'll 01:08:32.080 --> 01:08:34.775 move on to item 8.1, proposed domestic 01:08:34.799 --> 01:08:37.335 animal management plan. Would a council 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.359 like to move a motion? 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.576 Thank you, councelor Lockward. Is there 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:48.936 a second for the motion? 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:49.735 What motion? 01:08:49.759 --> 01:08:52.759 Oh, which motion would you like to 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:55.655 the recommendation? Terrific. Thank you. 01:08:55.679 --> 01:08:58.679 And is there a seconder? 01:09:00.719 --> 01:09:02.856 Thank you, councelor Pearce. Councelor 01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:04.215 Lockwood. 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.056 , yes. Well, okay. The the domestic 01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:08.135 animal management plan obviously is for 01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:11.159 all domestic pets not just cats um 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.655 but cats of course special interest to 01:09:13.679 --> 01:09:16.679 me since I've always owned a cat. Um 01:09:18.400 --> 01:09:20.456 and we've we've certainly that the 01:09:20.480 --> 01:09:22.295 notice of motion I submitted did take 01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.135 account of dogs as well to have a 01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:26.856 program to encourage more responsible 01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:28.936 dog ownership. And the whole intent of 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.576 this plan is obviously responsible pet 01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.815 ownership and providing I think 01:09:33.839 --> 01:09:36.135 requirements on people um through the 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:37.815 various local laws and orders and 01:09:37.839 --> 01:09:40.456 council to to care for their pets, 01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:42.856 pick up their waste. And although I 01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:44.056 think we're a little lacking on the pick 01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:45.976 up in waste, judging by my last walk 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.000 down Dandelion Creek, but um anyway, 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.655 plenty of people do the right thing. Um 01:09:51.679 --> 01:09:53.096 certainly on the nature strip outside 01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:54.695 our place, they get murdered if they 01:09:54.719 --> 01:09:56.695 don't pick it up. Pardon me. Just being 01:09:56.719 --> 01:09:59.719 facitious. Um I've been interested in 01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:02.695 the in the community 01:10:02.719 --> 01:10:05.719 um feedback that's reported here and has 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:07.496 been reported in previous reports over 01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:09.576 the last few years. I've read it all. 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.056 Um, and I find where it says in the 01:10:12.080 --> 01:10:13.655 report that the overall sentiment has 01:10:13.679 --> 01:10:15.096 been one of general support for the 01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:17.816 policy. I think that's a real stretch. 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.536 Um, the best numbers I've seen have been 01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.560 um, combining those who want no um, no 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:26.536 curfew and those who want an overnight 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:28.456 curfew outnumber those who want a 01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:31.016 24-hour curfew. So, I would certainly 01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:33.096 disagree with the overall sentiment. I 01:10:33.120 --> 01:10:35.896 think that's a misstatement, an error. 01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.920 Um, I could perhaps go on, but I won't. 01:10:39.040 --> 01:10:40.296 and there are plenty of people 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:43.320 interested in in keeping cats safe. Now 01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:45.336 the it the issues that were raised 01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:47.816 earlier in question time are that we can 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:50.840 actually save a lot of money if we stop 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:52.536 trying going out to try and catch cats 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:54.296 and then put them into empanment all of 01:10:54.320 --> 01:10:56.135 which costs us. There's an impound in 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.456 pound fee. Um we got to pay staff to go 01:10:58.480 --> 01:11:01.016 and catch them. um we can reduce these 01:11:01.040 --> 01:11:03.416 problems with with a community cat 01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:06.296 program with targeted um desexing and 01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:08.456 stop these things that particularly um 01:11:08.480 --> 01:11:10.376 there are semi-owned cats. I know I know 01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:11.896 people who just feed the cat that comes 01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:14.920 through their back door. Um I try to 01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:16.376 encourage them to keep it in but they 01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:19.175 won't of course um and it visits the 01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:20.776 neighborhood 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.856 and and that that that can cause 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.736 problems. I I don't see I I've never 01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:27.976 seen um some really authenticated 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.695 peerreview reports that say cats are a 01:11:30.719 --> 01:11:33.416 serious threat to Australian wildlife. 01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:36.135 Um but reports I have seen were not 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:38.456 peer-reviewed and have been since 01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:40.616 disproven. There was one that alleged 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.640 some multi-millions of um um native 01:11:44.320 --> 01:11:46.856 animals were killed by cats by local 01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:49.736 suburban cats. is um was turned out to 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:51.816 be nothing but an extrapolation of one 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:54.840 experiment. so anyway, our damp is 01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:58.840 meant to be doing good work. Um we have 01:11:59.120 --> 01:12:00.536 it for a reason. The state government 01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.016 requires us. Um we're doing committing 01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:05.016 our responsibility in having a domestic 01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:07.576 animal management program and I think 01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.016 it's a good thing and I think a lot of 01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:10.376 hard work goes into putting this 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:13.256 together. Um and we have a whole team of 01:12:13.280 --> 01:12:15.976 of of officers back there that enforce a 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.695 lot of this. , so I I thank them for 01:12:18.719 --> 01:12:21.096 their efforts and and assure them 01:12:21.120 --> 01:12:23.016 we're trying to improve our our pet 01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:25.896 population, population safety, and our 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.296 safety for native wildlife. That's 01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:29.496 certainly interesting to me. There's 01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.655 plenty of native wildlife in my gardens, 01:12:31.679 --> 01:12:34.679 and I still have a cat. So anyway, just 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.800 just um say we have a new domestic 01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:40.616 animal management plan. I'm sure it will 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:42.936 do well over the next few years. 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.376 thank you. 01:12:44.400 --> 01:12:46.135 Thank you, Councelor Lockwood. Councelor 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:47.655 Pearce is second or would you like to 01:12:47.679 --> 01:12:48.695 speak to the motion? 01:12:48.719 --> 01:12:51.496 Yes, madame Mayor. Very quickly, I'd 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:53.655 like to re recommend the office report 01:12:53.679 --> 01:12:56.616 based on the following legal obligation. 01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.336 Adopting the damp is not discretionary. 01:12:59.360 --> 01:13:01.736 Non-compliance with section 68A of the 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.695 domestic animals act of 1994 will expose 01:13:04.719 --> 01:13:07.655 council to regulatory and rep 01:13:07.679 --> 01:13:10.679 repreutational 01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:13.800 risk. Excuse me, stuffing that up. A 01:13:14.400 --> 01:13:16.296 council has already been granted an 01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:19.320 extension past December 2025 01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:23.080 deadline and should not delay further 01:13:24.719 --> 01:13:26.616 process integrity. Two phases of 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.536 community engagement were conducted over 01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.175 a reasonable period. The extension 01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:34.199 rising from nomination 187 demonstrates 01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:37.256 appropriate counselor oversight. 01:13:37.280 --> 01:13:40.135 The engagement volumes while modest are 01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:41.576 typical of the type of local 01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.376 government's regulatory plan. 01:13:44.400 --> 01:13:47.016 Financial soundness. The core of animal 01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:48.536 management service is a broad 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:51.175 costneutral with registration income 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.736 roughly matching the costs 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.760 which I can say is fantastic. 01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.536 The report is transparent about unfunded 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.175 initiatives and the upcoming government 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.199 levy increase. it 01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.560 the plan a clearly discloses what's not 01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:11.976 being charged the cat containment 01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.000 dissexing orders and why and has flagged 01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:17.175 additional incentives. 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.016 I think this report is extremely well 01:14:19.040 --> 01:14:22.040 written and I recommend that we approve 01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.056 the report. Thank you. 01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:25.736 Thank you councelor Pearce. Would any 01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:27.336 other counselor like to speak to the 01:14:27.360 --> 01:14:30.360 motion? 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.816 I will put the motion. All those in 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.840 favor? 01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:42.440 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:14:43.679 --> 01:14:46.679 The next item on the agenda is item 8.2, 01:14:46.719 --> 01:14:49.719 proposed sale of 5860 Station Street, 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:52.135 Bazewater. Before I call for a mover, 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:53.896 I'll remind councilors that we may need 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:55.416 to close the meeting if there are 01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:57.096 detailed questions or debate about 01:14:57.120 --> 01:14:59.016 matters set out in the confidential 01:14:59.040 --> 01:15:01.896 attachments of this report. Would a 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.456 council like to move a motion? Thank 01:15:04.480 --> 01:15:06.536 you, councelor Williams. Is that the 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:08.695 officer's recommendation? 01:15:08.719 --> 01:15:10.936 Thank you. Is there a second for that 01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:13.960 motion? Thank you, councelor Atwell. 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:16.056 Councelor Williams. 01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:18.776 Thank you. You may um fully commend the 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.416 officer's recommendation here that we 01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:23.976 continue to sell 58 to 60 Station Street 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.135 for the for sale at the full market 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.215 rate. noting that the auction was 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.239 listed and did occur in November 2025 01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.376 um unfortunately with no bids um met on 01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:36.536 that day and we've had it on a private 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.560 treaty sale up until now um with a 01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:42.936 couple of um negotiations ongoing. The 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:44.936 biggest thing out of this is .5 with 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:46.936 the environmental implications and I'm 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.496 glad to see that we'll um continue to 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.896 retain the agreement which requires 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.920 the retention of tree 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:59.400 11 12 13 14 and 15 and also um the 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:02.616 exclusion of development from the tree 01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:04.616 protection zone which was vitally 01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.256 important to the residents in by ward 01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:08.616 um and that was one of the main concerns 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:10.695 around that property. So I'm glad to see 01:16:10.719 --> 01:16:12.856 that will remain. Apart from that, um 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.016 I think the report's well written and um 01:16:15.040 --> 01:16:16.936 hopefully we see a successful sale of 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:17.816 the property. 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:19.336 Thank you, Councelor Williams. Councelor 01:16:19.360 --> 01:16:21.096 Atwell, 01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:22.776 would any other council like to speak to 01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.800 the motion? 01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:40.456 if no other counselor wishes to speak 01:16:40.480 --> 01:16:43.336 to the motion, I'll put the motion. All 01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:46.360 those in favor? 01:16:48.719 --> 01:16:51.719 Thank you. That motion is carried. 01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.776 the next item on the agenda is item 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.016 8.3 quarterly performance report for the 01:17:17.040 --> 01:17:20.040 period ending 31st December 2025. Would 01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:23.480 council like to move a motion? 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:26.616 So moved. 01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:28.456 Thank you, councelor Baker. Is there a 01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:30.296 seconder? Thank you, councelor Pearce. 01:17:30.320 --> 01:17:31.976 Councelor Baker, would you like to speak 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:32.936 to the motion? 01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.960 Thank you, Mayor Kennet. this is a 01:17:36.080 --> 01:17:38.936 report that comes for the quarter 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.256 report that ended 31st of December 01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:43.816 last year. Um includes a number of 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.456 reports. Um and I I think it's a really 01:17:46.480 --> 01:17:48.215 good way to go community to see how we 01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:51.239 are tracking on capital program progress 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:53.416 transformation 01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:55.896 um the well-being plan progress 01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:58.776 report and the financials um I 01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.096 particularly take a liking to the status 01:18:01.120 --> 01:18:03.896 report later in the page where work's 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:05.736 been undertaken throughout each of our 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.616 wards um and where um our funds are 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:11.640 being spent on community assets etc. Um 01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:14.376 so a rather detailed report. I won't go 01:18:14.400 --> 01:18:15.976 into it but I think it's it's really 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:19.000 quite handy um to show where our actions 01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:21.976 are where we're progressing the actions 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.296 where you know the the report that's 01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:27.320 coming along status reports for projects 01:18:27.679 --> 01:18:30.056 etc across the municipality. So I'm in 01:18:30.080 --> 01:18:31.496 support of this and thank you to the 01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:33.336 officers for putting it together. 01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:36.360 Thank you councelor Baker. Um and that 01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:38.215 was the officer's recommendation as 01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.456 printed that you are supporting. 01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:42.695 Yes. Correct. Thank you. Thank you. And 01:18:42.719 --> 01:18:44.296 councelor Pearce. 01:18:44.320 --> 01:18:46.056 Yes, Madame Mayor. I'd like to just say 01:18:46.080 --> 01:18:48.776 a few interesting facts. Year to date, 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.175 as of at the 31st of December, our 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.199 surplus operating surplus is up to 94.67 01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:58.376 million versus our budgeted surplus of 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:01.400 80.79 million. Our full forecasted 01:19:02.480 --> 01:19:05.480 fullear surplus is 26.883 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.840 million, which is above budget. Our 01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.760 working capital ratio is 8.83 to1 which 01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:15.496 is really healthy. 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.520 Our capital work spent to date is 23.066 01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:23.480 million spent against budget. So we're 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.520 under spent by 5.645 million. 01:19:27.679 --> 01:19:30.679 The cash and investments are at 33.920 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:34.199 million as at December 31st. Our 01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:37.480 interestbearing loans were at 79.132 01:19:37.679 --> 01:19:39.576 million total. 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.215 Our councelor action actions on track 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.239 are 39 out of the 44 actions are on 01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:48.520 schedule. Six to be completed and zero 01:19:49.120 --> 01:19:50.695 behind. I think that should be 01:19:50.719 --> 01:19:52.616 commended. 01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.336 Our the largest driver of our federal 01:19:55.360 --> 01:19:57.736 variance is the one-off unbudgeted um 01:19:57.760 --> 01:19:59.976 monetary contributions for property 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.976 transactions which including the social 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.536 housing contribution. The permanent 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.936 non-current varency 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:08.936 it will not be repeated in future years. 01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:11.096 This was simply to improve the 01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:12.856 underlying operating efficiency of the 01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.496 council. Stripping out the one-off 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.896 contributions, the remaining favorable v 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:19.976 favorable variances are a mix of 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.000 permanent timing differences. 1.5 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.920 um 999 million is favorable in users 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.376 fees. 1.331. 01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:32.536 It's a favorable in other income, 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.416 primary the bulk lighting replacement 01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:37.736 rebate. 01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:39.336 53 01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:42.135 535,000 01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.159 favorable in rates and charges 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.536 and 100 of that is in interest on 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.560 overdue rates. 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.215 5.27 million is a favorable expenditure. 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:56.616 We've underspent. That's always nice to 01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:59.336 know. The expenditure under spent was 01:20:59.360 --> 01:21:02.360 basically in m materials and services 01:21:03.120 --> 01:21:05.016 officers attribute that primary to 01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:06.856 timing differences due to the capital 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:08.536 works 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:11.560 capital works expenditure of 23.066 01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:14.840 million against budget of 28 was under 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.416 spend of 5.645 01:21:17.440 --> 01:21:20.440 million at the halfway point of the at 01:21:20.480 --> 01:21:22.215 the halfway point of the year. The 01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:25.239 fullear forecast is 59.905 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.600 million is 1.5 million below the amended 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.520 budget of 61.46 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:37.000 million which was reduced from 18.904 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:40.056 million projects carried forward from 01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:42.296 2425. 01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:45.320 The underspent concentrates on buildings 01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:48.215 which were underspent by 2 million. Toma 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:51.239 reserve facility redevelopment 1.378 01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:55.336 million parkridge reserve pavilion which 01:21:55.360 --> 01:21:57.175 was 82 01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:59.976 26,000 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:03.000 recreation and leisure playgrounds 1.216 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:04.776 million unspent. 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:05.976 Yes. 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.000 Can I have approval to just finish off? 01:22:09.280 --> 01:22:12.280 Can I can I 01:22:13.040 --> 01:22:15.096 Thank you. Councelor Atwell has moved an 01:22:15.120 --> 01:22:17.736 extension. Council Williams has 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:19.096 seconded that. 01:22:19.120 --> 01:22:20.456 Thank you. I'm almost finished. 01:22:20.480 --> 01:22:21.976 Favor. 01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.256 All those in favor? 01:22:23.280 --> 01:22:24.615 Yes. 01:22:24.639 --> 01:22:27.016 Yes. The motion is carried. I'm almost 01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:30.040 finished. Okay. Roads 5 951K 01:22:33.040 --> 01:22:35.256 underspent. Temporal road reconstruction 01:22:35.280 --> 01:22:37.416 of 1.4145 01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:40.215 million. Favorable partly offset by the 01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:43.175 high risk road failure works. 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:45.175 Computers and technology were underspent 01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:47.976 by 865K 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.615 due to timing differences with intramaps 01:22:50.639 --> 01:22:53.639 and cyber drainage is underspent by 672k 01:22:56.880 --> 01:22:59.880 drainage pits and pipes renewal program. 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:03.159 These are only areas overspent is plant 01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:05.256 and machinery and equipment which had an 01:23:05.280 --> 01:23:08.280 unfavorable variance of 810,000 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:11.416 in plant purchase arriving ahead of 01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:14.215 schedule. This is noted as a timely 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.695 variance. That's all in my brief update 01:23:16.719 --> 01:23:19.336 on the figures. Thank you. Thank you, 01:23:19.360 --> 01:23:21.175 Council Pearce. Would any other council 01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:24.199 like to speak to the motion? 01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:31.336 No. Okay, I'll put the motion. All those 01:23:31.360 --> 01:23:34.360 in favor, 01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:38.120 that motion is carried. 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.560 Um, as it is 8:35 and we have been 01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:45.416 going for over an hour and a half, I'm 01:23:45.440 --> 01:23:47.736 just going to propose a strict 10-minute 01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.760 break from now, returning at 8:45. 01:23:54.719 --> 01:23:57.719 Can I call for a motion? Thank you, 01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.215 councelor Duncan. A seconder. Thank you, 01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.239 councelor Atwell. All those in favor. 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:05.655 Thank you. That motion is carried. See 01:24:05.679 --> 01:24:08.215 you back here at 8:45 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:11.239 sharp. 01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:13.016 Excellent. With everyone joining us 01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:16.040 back, thank you for your patience. 01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.159 moving on to item 8.4, Knox Gambling 01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.336 Harm Prevention Policy Review. Would a 01:24:21.360 --> 01:24:23.655 counselor like to move a motion? 01:24:23.679 --> 01:24:25.096 The recommendation. 01:24:25.120 --> 01:24:26.856 Thank you, councelor Lowood. Is there a 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:29.736 seconder? Thank you, councelor Atwell. 01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:31.096 Council Lockwood, would you like to 01:24:31.120 --> 01:24:32.536 speak to the motion? 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:34.615 Yes. Not gambling harm. It's not the 01:24:34.639 --> 01:24:36.776 problem gamblers, it's gambling harm. 01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:38.376 It's an important distinction. We don't 01:24:38.400 --> 01:24:40.056 force the problem back onto the gambler, 01:24:40.080 --> 01:24:42.936 the person, the victim who's suffering 01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:44.936 from an addiction. Um, gambling can do 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:46.856 great harm. Of course, it can do great 01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:49.016 benefits, too. We raise a lot of money. 01:24:49.040 --> 01:24:50.776 State government raises millions and 01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:53.096 raises billions from it. Um, lots of 01:24:53.120 --> 01:24:55.576 sporting organizations benefit and our 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:58.456 local sports benefit to a degree from 01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:01.480 from gambling, gaming revenue. Gambling 01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.056 and gaming revenue. Yes. Um, but of 01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:06.536 course it can do horrendous harm. Um, my 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:08.296 experience, I've seen people die because 01:25:08.320 --> 01:25:11.175 of their addiction. Um, I've seen 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.416 incredible family violence because of 01:25:13.440 --> 01:25:16.440 gambling addiction, the family breakup. 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:19.800 um it can do enormous harm and it's and 01:25:20.320 --> 01:25:22.056 organizations should be taking more 01:25:22.080 --> 01:25:24.615 responsibility. I think in this in this 01:25:24.639 --> 01:25:27.256 revised policy we've now got mention of 01:25:27.280 --> 01:25:30.215 the major sporting codes so that we can 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:33.175 lobby them as well and let them know 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.199 that some of their fans are suffering 01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.776 enormously because of gambling. 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.695 Um there's al there's a percentage of 01:25:40.719 --> 01:25:43.416 people who will be addicted to gambling. 01:25:43.440 --> 01:25:45.655 um we need to 01:25:45.679 --> 01:25:48.679 redirect them if you like um provide a a 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.416 response to the harm. 01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:53.416 And it's similar to alcohol. You know, 01:25:53.440 --> 01:25:54.776 we're never going to ban alcohol. We're 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:57.096 never going to ban gambling. What we 01:25:57.120 --> 01:25:59.416 need to do is minimize the harms and 01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:01.655 make sure we catch the people that 01:26:01.679 --> 01:26:03.896 strong influences in our society, our 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:05.496 economy work against it because there's 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.520 money to be made from problem gamblers. 01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:11.256 um make obviously if they're going to 01:26:11.280 --> 01:26:12.536 sell their house to pay for their 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.856 gambling or steal money, pay for their 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.695 gambling, people go to jail because of 01:26:16.719 --> 01:26:19.576 because of gambling harm. So um it's a 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:22.135 serious problem. So we take we play our 01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.456 role in trying to reduce gambling harm 01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:26.296 within Knox. We're also a part of the 01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:29.320 alliance um for gambling to prevent to 01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:32.615 minimize gambling harm. , and we need 01:26:32.639 --> 01:26:34.376 to do our bit because there's millions 01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:37.336 of dollars lost every year. Knox, mostly 01:26:37.360 --> 01:26:39.736 to poker machines. Poker machines are 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:41.416 are mathematically designed to take all 01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:43.576 your money. The longer you play, the 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.056 more you must lose. It's a mathematical 01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:47.736 progression. I've never It's always 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.256 defeated me why people want to play 01:26:49.280 --> 01:26:51.816 them, keep putting money in when simple 01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:53.736 maths means you're not going to win. And 01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:55.416 if you do happen to get lucky and win, 01:26:55.440 --> 01:26:57.655 walk away. Take the winnings and leave. 01:26:57.679 --> 01:26:59.896 But people don't do that. They tend to 01:26:59.920 --> 01:27:01.736 want to put it all back in. 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:03.175 because they get the thrill of playing 01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:06.056 the machines of the spinning wheels and 01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:08.615 the flashing lights hypnotizing 01:27:08.639 --> 01:27:11.639 hypnotizing give me your money. So with 01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:15.159 that note, I will bid you. 01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:17.175 Thank you, councelor Lowid. Councelor 01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:18.215 Elwell. 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.536 thank you, Mayor. And yes, it was 01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:22.856 um it's good to read the um the 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.880 community input to the draft Knox 01:27:26.639 --> 01:27:28.376 gambling harm prevention policy and we 01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:30.856 appreciate the engagement and feedback 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:32.776 from our community. And I think as 01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:35.175 Council Lockwood ended on, one of the 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:37.256 Yeah. One of the the recurring themes 01:27:37.280 --> 01:27:39.256 there was particularly the the Pokés or 01:27:39.280 --> 01:27:41.736 the electronic gaming machines, the 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:44.760 EGMs. Um and the report sets out 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:47.256 that our residents face greater 01:27:47.280 --> 01:27:49.416 financial losses from Pokés than the 01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:52.440 Metro Melbourne average. Um $79 million 01:27:52.480 --> 01:27:55.480 lost to Pokés in Knox in 2425. That's 01:27:57.040 --> 01:27:59.816 an average of $217,000 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:02.296 per day in losses. So, not not turnover 01:28:02.320 --> 01:28:04.776 or value of of bets, but losses, pure 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.256 losses, which is um just staggering. The 01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:09.736 average the average loss per adult in 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:12.760 Knox was $586 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:15.800 for the year. Um that's increased 01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:19.016 3.4% losses in Knox over the last 01:28:19.040 --> 01:28:21.016 year, which is um even faster than 01:28:21.040 --> 01:28:24.040 inflation. So, we have 11 11 gaming 01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.376 venues, 771 01:28:26.400 --> 01:28:29.400 pokies across Knox. Um I note that we 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.296 are currently operating at 63% of our of 01:28:32.320 --> 01:28:34.376 our legal limit and and here's hoping we 01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:37.400 don't see that go much higher. Um they 01:28:38.080 --> 01:28:41.016 are designed yeah to take cash from 01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:43.496 people. Um I think the public health 01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:46.296 approach um that are that we're taking 01:28:46.320 --> 01:28:47.655 with the policy. It's good to see the 01:28:47.679 --> 01:28:49.096 guiding principles. I think there are 01:28:49.120 --> 01:28:52.120 these are some realistic um measures 01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.896 that council can take to see what we 01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:57.736 can do. it's not just pokies, of 01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:59.256 course. There's a whole a lot of other 01:28:59.280 --> 01:29:00.856 things and online bidding was another 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:02.536 thing that came through the community 01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:05.560 engagement. So, let's um let's let's 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.936 give it a try. I like the the reworking 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.336 of this and um appreciate the response 01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:13.896 to the input from our community and 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:15.976 appreciate once again the time people 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:17.576 have taken to to share their thoughts 01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.056 and help us refine this for adoption. 01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:21.976 Thank you, councelor. Does any other 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.000 council wish to speak? 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.376 with no other council wishing to 01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:32.056 speak, I'll put the motion. All those in 01:29:32.080 --> 01:29:35.080 favor? 01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:38.120 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.840 The next item on the agenda is item 8.5, 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:46.215 Knox Active Aging Advisory Committee 01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:48.536 annual report for 2025. Would a 01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:50.536 counselor like to move a motion? 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:52.056 I'll move the office's recommendation. 01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:53.976 Thanks, Mayor Kennock. Thank you very 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.056 much councelor Baker. Is there a 01:29:56.080 --> 01:29:57.896 second of that motion? Thank you 01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:00.920 councelor Pearce. Councelor Baker. 01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:03.655 Thank you and through you may um this is 01:30:03.679 --> 01:30:05.655 a report that I always look forward to 01:30:05.679 --> 01:30:08.056 coming to council. Um it's my sixth year 01:30:08.080 --> 01:30:10.936 now on NOx active aging advisory 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.960 committee. Um and I also thank the 01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:15.976 officers report for putting this all 01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.056 together. Um every year's been a great 01:30:18.080 --> 01:30:20.856 year um with a many we've got new 01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:23.175 committee members now. Um but even going 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:26.199 back from year one um you know even the 01:30:26.320 --> 01:30:28.215 new committee members we've had a really 01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:31.239 robust discussion um with our committee 01:30:31.280 --> 01:30:34.280 members who offer a very range of 01:30:34.400 --> 01:30:36.776 views and lived experiences that they 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.655 share that help us shape and form um you 01:30:39.679 --> 01:30:41.576 know moving forward with what we do with 01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:44.135 council um and ensuring that their their 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.456 views are incorporated and that we 01:30:46.480 --> 01:30:49.416 understand their needs. So I appreciate 01:30:49.440 --> 01:30:51.416 their time. They're valuable information 01:30:51.440 --> 01:30:54.296 and advice to help us to improve um 01:30:54.320 --> 01:30:57.320 lives of our seniors in Knox. Um you 01:30:57.360 --> 01:30:59.496 know very productive, very informative. 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.520 Um so I would just like to thank you 01:31:02.719 --> 01:31:05.719 know Dr. Judy Chalkley our director um 01:31:06.719 --> 01:31:09.256 but also and acknowledge the staff who 01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:10.456 take the time to sit on this 01:31:10.480 --> 01:31:12.215 committee with us as well. 01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:14.456 um you know this as the outlined report 01:31:14.480 --> 01:31:16.056 there. We've had various um 01:31:16.080 --> 01:31:18.376 presentations throughout the year. We've 01:31:18.400 --> 01:31:21.400 had the mobility access and action plan. 01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:24.056 Um we've also had the positive and 01:31:24.080 --> 01:31:27.080 healthy aging updates. Um a presentation 01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:29.736 by Elder Rights Victoria and Bright 01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:31.496 Ideas Network project are just some of 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:32.936 the things that we've discussed 01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:35.416 throughout this year. Um and I've been 01:31:35.440 --> 01:31:36.776 really appreciative of the information 01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:38.536 that's been provided. So thanks for the 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.496 report. um it provides our community 01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.096 with what happens with our committees 01:31:43.120 --> 01:31:45.336 that we a number of our councilors sit 01:31:45.360 --> 01:31:48.360 on. Um so thank you to all um and really 01:31:48.400 --> 01:31:49.976 appreciative. So thank you. 01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:51.655 Thank you councelor Baker. Councelor 01:31:51.679 --> 01:31:53.175 Pearce and seconder. Would you like to 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:55.576 speak to the motion? 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:57.175 I 01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:00.199 sorry I keep my right of reply. Thanks. 01:32:00.400 --> 01:32:02.135 Would any other counselor like to speak 01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:05.159 to the motion? 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.336 Oh then put the motion. And all those in 01:32:09.360 --> 01:32:12.360 favor? 01:32:13.120 --> 01:32:15.816 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.135 Thank you. The next item on the agenda 01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.159 is item 8.6 2026 ELGA National General 01:32:22.400 --> 01:32:25.096 Assembly. There is a revised officer 01:32:25.120 --> 01:32:28.056 recommendation. But before I call for a 01:32:28.080 --> 01:32:31.016 mover or seconder, um I note that there 01:32:31.040 --> 01:32:32.936 is a change to the number of councilors 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.336 proposing to attend the Alga National 01:32:35.360 --> 01:32:37.655 General Assembly. Councilors Cooper and 01:32:37.679 --> 01:32:39.896 Baker have indicated that they no longer 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.215 are able to attend the Alga National 01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:45.239 General Assembly. Council's councelor 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.655 expenses and support policy requires 01:32:47.679 --> 01:32:49.416 council approval where more than three 01:32:49.440 --> 01:32:51.175 counselors plus the Mayor proposed to 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:53.416 attend as only myself and three 01:32:53.440 --> 01:32:55.496 counselors are now proposing to attend. 01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.296 Officers have prepared a revised officer 01:32:58.320 --> 01:32:59.736 recommendation to reflect that 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.760 attendance is in line with the policy. 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:06.215 The revised officer recommendation is 01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:09.239 now shown on the screen. 01:33:10.320 --> 01:33:13.320 that revised officer recommendation 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:16.840 is to adopt three mot 01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:20.920 to adopt three motions for submission 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.920 to the 2026 Australian Local Government 01:33:25.040 --> 01:33:27.336 Association, ELGA, National General 01:33:27.360 --> 01:33:29.096 Assembly of Local Government, as set out 01:33:29.120 --> 01:33:32.120 in section 1.1 of the officers report. 01:33:32.719 --> 01:33:35.096 Two, to note the Mayor, councelor Paige 01:33:35.120 --> 01:33:36.776 Kennet will be attending to represent 01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:39.256 council at the 2026 Algaen National 01:33:39.280 --> 01:33:42.280 General Assembly. Three, to note that 01:33:42.639 --> 01:33:44.536 the entitlements of deputy Mayor, 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:46.695 councelor Chris Duncan, councelor Susan 01:33:46.719 --> 01:33:48.856 Pearce, and councelor Peter Lockwood to 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.655 have their costs of attending the 2026 01:33:51.679 --> 01:33:54.135 Australian Local Government Association 01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:55.896 National General Assembly to represent 01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:58.215 council met or reimbured by council in 01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:01.175 accordance with clause 4.5.1 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:03.496 of the councelor expenses and support 01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:06.376 policy. Would a counselor like to move a 01:34:06.400 --> 01:34:08.296 motion? 01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:10.296 Thank you, councelor Atwell. Is there a 01:34:10.320 --> 01:34:13.256 second for that motion? 01:34:13.280 --> 01:34:14.776 Is that the revised officer 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:15.736 recommendation? 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:17.096 The revised officer recommendation, 01:34:17.120 --> 01:34:19.256 Mayor, but I'd be hoping to add or make 01:34:19.280 --> 01:34:22.280 one small addition, a point 4 um 01:34:24.080 --> 01:34:26.456 which I'm happy to um speak to. Um it 01:34:26.480 --> 01:34:29.480 would be to um add the words as a point4 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:32.520 that we had last year. Um I think it was 01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:35.175 um Mayor Kennet that raised this. Um and 01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:37.336 there is a there is a nod to councilors 01:34:37.360 --> 01:34:39.175 providing a short synopsis back as part 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:42.199 of the expenses policy. But last year we 01:34:42.320 --> 01:34:44.776 we talked about in terms of transparency 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:46.776 and accountability to our community that 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.800 we um you know include um the 01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:51.816 requirement for counselors that are 01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:54.376 attending to submit a report to council 01:34:54.400 --> 01:34:56.376 um after the conference outlining the 01:34:56.400 --> 01:34:58.215 key benefits and learnings derived from 01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.376 their attendance including impact on 01:35:00.400 --> 01:35:03.400 their role and the community. So, , 01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:04.856 well, I'll be happy to second that. 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:06.856 Mayor Kent. 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:08.456 Thank you, Councelor Baker. Thank you 01:35:08.480 --> 01:35:11.016 for that addition. , well received, 01:35:11.040 --> 01:35:14.040 councelor. Um, as mover, would you like 01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:15.096 to speak to the motion? 01:35:15.120 --> 01:35:17.175 , yeah, just briefly. I I attended 01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:19.736 last year and yeah, wish our delegation 01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:22.760 for 2026 all the very best. It was 01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:27.175 very worthwhile. it was my first 01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:29.576 Alga National General Assembly. I 01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:31.096 learned a lot, made a lot of new 01:35:31.120 --> 01:35:34.056 connections, um um came back with some 01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:36.135 ideas and I think the reports that 01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:37.816 councilors provided at at the end of 01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:40.840 last year's um NGA um yeah really 01:35:41.280 --> 01:35:43.816 demonstrated the the depth of of what we 01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:45.576 brought back to our community and I 01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:47.655 think we've been able to apply in 01:35:47.679 --> 01:35:50.679 part in the time um since last year's um 01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:53.416 assembly. So I don't think we you 01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:54.936 know I don't feel like I need to go 01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:57.576 every year and I and I won't but um 01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.496 those that do I think that it's a 01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:01.496 worthwhile but not insignificant 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.056 expense to our rate payers and and 01:36:04.080 --> 01:36:05.496 one that we should be accountable for. 01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:07.816 So I wish the delegation this year 01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:09.416 all the very best. Look forward to um 01:36:09.440 --> 01:36:11.256 hearing and reading about their 01:36:11.280 --> 01:36:12.936 learnings when they come back. Thank 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:13.576 you. 01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:15.096 Thank you councelor Atwell. Councelor 01:36:15.120 --> 01:36:16.936 Baker second would you like to speak to 01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:17.496 the motion? 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.296 Thank you. I I support what council 01:36:20.320 --> 01:36:23.320 at has just mentioned. similarly in 01:36:23.440 --> 01:36:25.016 all the term I've been on council last 01:36:25.040 --> 01:36:27.576 year was the first time I ever attended 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:29.576 um and it was insightful. He did learn a 01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.600 lot as well myself um and certainly came 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.920 back with some ideas. So um I am looking 01:36:37.440 --> 01:36:38.936 forward and thank you to councelor 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:40.936 Atwell for adding that point forward. I 01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:42.536 do feel that if councils are going to go 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:45.560 up to ELGA that we um should be 01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:47.496 reporting back and being transparent to 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:49.256 our community with where those funds are 01:36:49.280 --> 01:36:51.896 being sent um for our councils to 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.536 attend. So very supportive um of 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:56.056 councilors coming back to submit a 01:36:56.080 --> 01:36:58.135 report on key benefits and learnings 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:00.135 derived from their attendance. So thanks 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:01.256 for adding that in cuz that was 01:37:01.280 --> 01:37:02.536 certainly a question I was going to ask 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.695 whether current attendees were going to 01:37:04.719 --> 01:37:07.175 do that. Um but I I think this is very 01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:09.416 transparent in being very clear with our 01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:11.256 committee that that should this be 01:37:11.280 --> 01:37:13.416 supported tonight that's what the 01:37:13.440 --> 01:37:16.215 expectation will be. Thank you. 01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:17.896 Thank you councelor Baker. Does any 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:19.336 other counselor wish to speak to the 01:37:19.360 --> 01:37:22.360 motion? 01:37:22.480 --> 01:37:25.480 I'll put the motion of the revised 01:37:25.679 --> 01:37:27.496 officer recommendation with the addition 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:30.520 of 4. All those in favor? 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:35.800 The motion is carried unanimously. 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:43.800 We'll now move on to item 8.7 council 01:37:44.080 --> 01:37:46.776 resolutions progress report October to 01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:49.016 December 2025. 01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:52.040 Would a council like to move a motion 01:37:55.440 --> 01:37:56.536 recommendation? 01:37:56.560 --> 01:37:59.016 Thank you councelor Lockwood moving the 01:37:59.040 --> 01:38:00.776 officer's recommendation. Is there a 01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:03.800 seconder for that motion? 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:05.655 Thank you, councelor Duncan. Councelor 01:38:05.679 --> 01:38:07.336 Lockwood is mover. Would you like to 01:38:07.360 --> 01:38:10.360 speak? 01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:13.336 Thank you, Mayor Paige. I believe this 01:38:13.360 --> 01:38:16.360 is your baby. Um, asked for this. Yeah. 01:38:16.719 --> 01:38:19.719 Well done. Um, and here we have it. Our 01:38:21.280 --> 01:38:24.280 resolutions progress report. We give the 01:38:24.400 --> 01:38:26.296 give everybody a mark out of 10. Do we? 01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:29.320 Um, 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.376 10 out of 10. 01:38:32.400 --> 01:38:34.376 Um, no, that's it's a good thing to have 01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:37.016 to have this because it's often we often 01:38:37.040 --> 01:38:38.936 come up comes up in conversation of 01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:41.655 didn't we move that last year and what 01:38:41.679 --> 01:38:43.576 why don't I remember what happened. So 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.896 anyway, we we now have a reference um 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.056 that we can look at fairly regularly. 01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:49.416 Hopefully it comes up probably come up 01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:52.440 annually I suppose and know where the 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:55.095 resolutions are at and enable us to do 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:57.336 our jobs better by being that little bit 01:38:57.360 --> 01:39:00.360 much more informed. Thank you. And well 01:39:00.719 --> 01:39:02.456 done on on raising this. 01:39:02.480 --> 01:39:04.376 Thank you, Council Lockwood. Councelor 01:39:04.400 --> 01:39:05.976 Duncan, it's seconded. Do you wish to 01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:07.256 speak? Y 01:39:07.280 --> 01:39:08.615 um yeah, I think this is fantastic. 01:39:08.639 --> 01:39:10.135 We're actually u getting all of 01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:11.816 council's resolutions into a single 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:13.736 space and actually reporting it to to 01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:15.175 the residents so they can actually see 01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:16.536 the decisions that have been made and 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:18.695 that they have been acted on. So looking 01:39:18.719 --> 01:39:21.336 forward to receiving this um more often 01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:23.095 and into the future and noting the more 01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:24.615 things that we've we've crossed off 01:39:24.639 --> 01:39:26.615 our list that's having been achieved. So 01:39:26.639 --> 01:39:28.135 fantastic that we've actually got this 01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:29.736 now. So congratulations on that. But 01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:31.336 yeah, a great report. Looking forward to 01:39:31.360 --> 01:39:33.175 seeing more of it. 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:34.776 Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Does any 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:36.296 other counselor wish to speak to the 01:39:36.320 --> 01:39:39.320 motion? 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:41.736 Nope. I'll put the motion. All those in 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:44.056 favor? 01:39:44.080 --> 01:39:47.080 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:50.056 The next item on the agenda is item 8.8, 01:39:50.080 --> 01:39:52.135 Greater Southeast Melbourne, GM 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.159 Delegation to CRA. As foreshadowed, I 01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:57.175 will be declaring a conflict of interest 01:39:57.199 --> 01:39:59.336 for this item. And once I've done so, 01:39:59.360 --> 01:40:00.936 I'll ask the deputy Mayor to chair the 01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:03.960 meeting in my absence. 01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:08.520 I am declaring a material conflict of 01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:10.056 interest 01:40:10.080 --> 01:40:13.080 for item 8.8. The nature of my interest 01:40:13.280 --> 01:40:15.496 is the travel and cost proposed in the 01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:17.416 report relate to my attendance as part 01:40:17.440 --> 01:40:20.440 of a delegation to CRA for GM. 01:40:22.320 --> 01:40:24.215 I'll now leave the meeting and hand over 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.239 to deputy Mayor councelor Duncan. 01:40:40.080 --> 01:40:41.816 would a counselor like to move a 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:43.655 motion? 01:40:43.679 --> 01:40:45.736 So deputy Mayor. So I've got a quick 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.736 question before you do put that. I'm 01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:48.936 wondering whether we can possibly 01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:51.336 similar to the the ELGA that we had 01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:53.175 whether we can add a point where a 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:55.175 report would be submitted for the 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.199 attendance of Mayor Kennet. 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:02.296 Do do we need to wait the motion before 01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:05.320 we 01:41:10.639 --> 01:41:12.536 councelor Akre if you'd like to move 01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:14.135 that motion with that amendment we can 01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:15.576 have governance put something on the 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:16.695 screen for you. 01:41:16.719 --> 01:41:19.719 Thank you. Yes please. 01:41:22.719 --> 01:41:24.135 We'll just need a couple of moments if 01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:27.159 that's all right. Hel back up. 01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:47.496 So, councelor Baker, we've actually 01:43:47.520 --> 01:43:49.016 added that second point in there and 01:43:49.040 --> 01:43:51.016 split it out. It it now actually reads, 01:43:51.040 --> 01:43:53.496 "Require the Mayor to submit a report to 01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:56.520 council outlining the key activities 01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:01.016 and outcomes from her attendance in CRA 01:44:01.040 --> 01:44:03.416 as part of the GSM delegation. Are you 01:44:03.440 --> 01:44:05.816 happy to move that motion? 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:07.816 Yeah, that that looks okay. Is there a 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:09.496 possibility to have it for future years 01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:11.816 as well or is that 01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:13.416 I think that would come up for council 01:44:13.440 --> 01:44:15.416 at each year and we we would be able to 01:44:15.440 --> 01:44:16.695 add that in there. 01:44:16.719 --> 01:44:17.095 So, 01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:17.736 okay. All right. 01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:19.416 Moved by councelor Baker. Could I have 01:44:19.440 --> 01:44:21.736 somebody second that amended motion? 01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:23.736 Councelor Pearce. Thank you. Councelor 01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:25.336 Baker, would you like to speak to your 01:44:25.360 --> 01:44:25.976 motion? 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:27.976 yeah, thank you. Um, this is just 01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:31.000 obviously for Mayor Kennet to attend a 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.215 Cam Camber on the 4th to the 5th of 01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:36.615 March this year as part of the Southeast 01:44:36.639 --> 01:44:38.536 Melbourne delegation advocating for 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:41.016 interest of the GSM region which 01:44:41.040 --> 01:44:43.496 includes Knox and meetings with 01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.520 federal members and ministers. Um, 01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:51.000 it's um a region that is home to more 01:44:51.440 --> 01:44:53.256 than one and a half million residents 01:44:53.280 --> 01:44:55.416 and is Australia's manufacturing 01:44:55.440 --> 01:44:57.416 powerhouses. it's got documented in the 01:44:57.440 --> 01:45:00.440 report there. Um so I'm supportive of 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.416 the advocacy um and I think to be 01:45:03.440 --> 01:45:05.816 represented as part of you know not to 01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:08.376 be included in that. Um but similarly 01:45:08.400 --> 01:45:09.655 we've just had that discussion in the 01:45:09.679 --> 01:45:11.175 previous report. I feel it's pertinent 01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:13.736 that a report is submitted to council 01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:16.760 considering that funds are being used to 01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:19.736 send the Mayor up there. Um and I would 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:21.816 certainly like to understand the key 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:23.976 activities and the outcomes from Mayor 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:26.536 Kennet's attendance. um and that we're 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:28.695 being transparent with our community to 01:45:28.719 --> 01:45:30.376 ensure that the the rates are being 01:45:30.400 --> 01:45:32.856 spent rate paying money to support the 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:35.880 travel um and what benefits etc that is 01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:38.776 going to occur for Nox residents. Um I 01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:40.056 just think it's very important that 01:45:40.080 --> 01:45:42.376 we're transparent and that we are being 01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:45.175 accountable um with attendances like 01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:46.456 these. Thank you. 01:45:46.480 --> 01:45:48.296 Thank you, Councelor Baker. Councelor 01:45:48.320 --> 01:45:49.736 Pearce, would you like to speak to the 01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:52.760 motion? 01:45:53.440 --> 01:45:55.576 Mr. Mayor, no. Thank you. I'd like to 01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:57.416 hold my right of reply. Thank you. 01:45:57.440 --> 01:45:58.936 It's actually deputy Mayor. Thank you, 01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:01.175 councelor Pearce. 01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:03.576 Sorry, councelor Duncan. I just giving 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:05.175 you an upgrade. 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:06.776 Apologies. 01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:08.536 , does any other councelor wish to 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:10.296 speak to the motion? 01:46:10.320 --> 01:46:11.736 Councelor Lockwood. 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.056 Thank you. Um, 01:46:14.080 --> 01:46:15.736 I admire the sentiment for councelor 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.376 Baker and I think we do need to be 01:46:18.400 --> 01:46:20.456 part of a delegation to go to Camber to 01:46:20.480 --> 01:46:22.215 support Southeast Melbourne, Greater 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:24.615 Southeast Melbourne group. it it 01:46:24.639 --> 01:46:26.695 it does great work and it does has had 01:46:26.719 --> 01:46:29.719 some great success. I do query reporting 01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:31.655 back on the outcomes because this is a 01:46:31.679 --> 01:46:33.576 lobbying mission. It's not a conference. 01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:35.816 It's not a learning activity. It's 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:38.840 visiting ministers and um 01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:41.576 and federal members to influence their 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.135 decisions and we won't know the outcomes 01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:46.215 initially possibly for some months 01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:48.936 maybe until the budget or maybe to um 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:51.175 for quite some time. So I think it's a 01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:54.199 bit unfair to ask for outcomes from the 01:46:54.320 --> 01:46:56.296 Mayor when we actually won't know. It's 01:46:56.320 --> 01:46:58.856 it's visiting ministers in their offices 01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:01.880 and putting the case for G7. I'm not 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:03.336 sure how it would work, how many Mayors 01:47:03.360 --> 01:47:05.576 are going, but I dare say there'll be 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:08.600 a contingent of um CEOs and Mayors as 01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:12.119 the group. and it's um and and Mayor 01:47:12.719 --> 01:47:14.695 Kennet will not be the only one there. 01:47:14.719 --> 01:47:16.215 There's a there's a there's a whole 01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:19.239 delegation. So I think it's possibly 01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:21.016 more pertinent to have a delegation 01:47:21.040 --> 01:47:24.040 report than that coming through GM than 01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:27.175 have our Mayor make a separate report. I 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:29.976 do think that's a little little unfair. 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.215 I said it's not a conference, it's a 01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:35.239 lobbying expedition. So um I would um I 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:37.496 would move an amendment that we move 01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:40.520 item one and delete item two. 01:47:42.639 --> 01:47:44.376 I need a second for an amendment. would 01:47:44.400 --> 01:47:47.400 need a second offer for that amendment. 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:49.736 Let's just get some advice from 01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:52.760 governance for a second. 01:48:33.440 --> 01:48:35.016 Sorry, councelor Lockwood, we can't take 01:48:35.040 --> 01:48:37.336 an amendment that is contrary to the 01:48:37.360 --> 01:48:39.256 motion that is on the table. However, I 01:48:39.280 --> 01:48:41.016 can reach out to the mover and second 01:48:41.040 --> 01:48:42.615 iter to see if they are amendable to 01:48:42.639 --> 01:48:45.639 removing point 2. 01:48:48.480 --> 01:48:49.976 I'm not. No, 01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:51.896 Megan, you're not. No. So, councelor 01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:54.056 Lockwood, the option would be that 01:48:54.080 --> 01:48:56.536 should this motion fail, then an 01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:58.536 alternate could be put up. 01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:01.175 Um, would the mover be happy if we just 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:03.496 took out the words outcomes cuz we won't 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:05.976 know the outcomes. Be unfair to get 01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:07.496 Mayor Kennet to report on an outcome 01:49:07.520 --> 01:49:09.816 she's not aware of. 01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:10.936 Would you be comfortable with that, 01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:11.896 Councelor Baker? 01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:14.056 Well, we don't know what whether there 01:49:14.080 --> 01:49:15.655 could be outcomes. how would we know? 01:49:15.679 --> 01:49:18.679 So, um I you know there could be 01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:21.416 discussions or you know events that 01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:23.896 might occur from those discussions that 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:26.376 that meant may be able to discuss. So 01:49:26.400 --> 01:49:27.896 I'm not comfortable with removing that. 01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.920 If there are outcomes then that's fine. 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:33.256 Um and if there's not then I'm sure me 01:49:33.280 --> 01:49:35.175 Kennet will be able to put that in her 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:37.816 report. I feel 01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:39.816 except 01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:42.840 requiring her to report on outcomes. Um, 01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:45.576 this says require the Mayor. So, if she 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.336 doesn't know outcomes, she can't report 01:49:47.360 --> 01:49:50.360 on them. So, I think that's unfair. 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:53.736 I'm just asking for transparency in her 01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.536 attendance. 01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:58.215 Um, councilors, I think we'll continue 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.776 with debate on this. Um, my feeling is 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:02.536 if there are outcomes, they will be 01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:03.976 reported on, and if there are no 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.816 outcomes, a valid report would say that 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:07.496 there were no outcomes from the meeting. 01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:09.655 Could we add outcomes if applicable? 01:50:09.679 --> 01:50:11.736 Would that be acceptable to you, 01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:14.695 Councelor Baker? 01:50:14.719 --> 01:50:16.376 Changing it to key activities and 01:50:16.400 --> 01:50:18.376 outcomes if available from her 01:50:18.400 --> 01:50:21.400 attendance in CRA. 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:28.119 Um, look, I'm I'm sitting 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:33.095 I just I feel that if there aren't any 01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:35.336 outcomes, then that can be reported on 01:50:35.360 --> 01:50:38.360 honestly. I think if applicable. 01:50:38.719 --> 01:50:40.296 Thank you, councelor Baker. We will keep 01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:43.256 this the motion as it is on the screen. 01:50:43.280 --> 01:50:46.280 Would any other councelor like to speak? 01:50:47.280 --> 01:50:50.280 Councelor Cooper, you have your hand up. 01:50:51.679 --> 01:50:54.679 Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Um, look, I 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:56.536 am happy to support this. I do 01:50:56.560 --> 01:50:59.256 understand um Councelor Lockwood's 01:50:59.280 --> 01:51:02.280 concern. , but I I share Councelor 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.560 Baker's sentiment. I I do believe that 01:51:06.719 --> 01:51:09.719 um if there are no outcomes to report 01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:12.760 that can that can be stipulated. Um and 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:15.655 obviously it's something that we can 01:51:15.679 --> 01:51:18.679 note to follow up on. I don't see why 01:51:19.040 --> 01:51:21.416 we should be hesitant in in putting 01:51:21.440 --> 01:51:23.576 forward this motion as it's currently 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.600 written. Um and it it is it's just to be 01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:28.936 more transparent with our community, but 01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:31.256 it's also to share amongst us 01:51:31.280 --> 01:51:33.576 counselors who were not able to attend 01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:36.600 or or don't you know are not actually 01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:40.119 delegated to go. Um it it's it's a it's 01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:42.776 it's something for us as well and the 01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:45.416 rest of the council. So I'm really quite 01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:47.976 comfortable with how this is written and 01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.536 um I think all counselors should support 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:52.376 it in principle. I don't see any issue 01:51:52.400 --> 01:51:55.400 with it. Thank you. Any other counselor 01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:58.135 like to speak? Councelor Outwell. 01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.536 thank you Mr. Deputy Mayor. Um I 01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:02.615 think the yeah the threshold here I I 01:52:02.639 --> 01:52:05.575 feel is if a council is traveling 01:52:05.599 --> 01:52:07.976 interstate um as part of a delegation or 01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:09.496 to a conference that when they come back 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:12.520 they they show us um or give up you know 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:16.135 prepare some insights um on the trip and 01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:17.976 and the outcomes and activities. I think 01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:19.416 to council Lockwood's point, there 01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:21.976 probably is a a need of form of words to 01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:24.376 make that not a pass or fail for the 01:52:24.400 --> 01:52:27.400 Mayor. But um if there's no ability to 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.296 find a further form of words, I'll 01:52:30.320 --> 01:52:32.615 support it. Um as is, I think the Mayor 01:52:32.639 --> 01:52:34.376 will be able to navigate around that in 01:52:34.400 --> 01:52:36.296 producing what I think we want to see, 01:52:36.320 --> 01:52:38.456 which is um yes, an outcome for the 01:52:38.480 --> 01:52:41.016 trip. What happened? Um what did you get 01:52:41.040 --> 01:52:42.936 up to? and it's a it's a transparency 01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:44.695 and accountability measure which um I 01:52:44.719 --> 01:52:46.695 support this in in the way that I did 01:52:46.719 --> 01:52:48.936 the earlier item regarding the ALGA 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:51.016 NGA. So I'll support this. 01:52:51.040 --> 01:52:53.336 Thank you councel. Any other council 01:52:53.360 --> 01:52:55.896 like to speak? 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:57.816 councelor Baker as mover would you 01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:00.536 like to exercise your right of reply? 01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:02.376 Thank you. just very briefly and 01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:03.976 thank you for the councils who've made 01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:05.816 comment acknowledging all the councils 01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:08.840 who have entered into debate with 01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:11.880 this. Um but I I I do agree that it is 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:14.936 transparency providing us more 01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:16.615 information as councelor Gre in our 01:53:16.639 --> 01:53:18.776 community um and it's been accountable 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:20.695 with expenditure of rate pay money to 01:53:20.719 --> 01:53:22.456 attend this. So thank you. 01:53:22.480 --> 01:53:25.016 Thank you councelor Baker. Um with that 01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:26.936 I'll now put the motion. All those in 01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:29.416 favor 01:53:29.440 --> 01:53:31.896 that is passed unanimously. 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:33.655 officers could you please invite the 01:53:33.679 --> 01:53:36.679 Mayor to rejoin the meeting. Thank you. 01:53:59.679 --> 01:54:02.536 The next item on the agenda is item 8.9 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:04.296 revised instrument of delegation 01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:06.936 cemeteries and crematoria to members of 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:09.575 council staff. Would a counselor like to 01:54:09.599 --> 01:54:11.016 move a motion? 01:54:11.040 --> 01:54:12.456 So moved as the officer's 01:54:12.480 --> 01:54:14.376 recommendation. Thanks May. 01:54:14.400 --> 01:54:16.056 Thank you councelor Baker. Is there a 01:54:16.080 --> 01:54:17.816 seconder? 01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:19.816 Thank you, councelor Atwell. Councelor 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:21.336 Baker, as mover, would you like to 01:54:21.360 --> 01:54:22.376 speak? 01:54:22.400 --> 01:54:23.816 Thank you. I'll just keep it very brief. 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.840 This is an administrative report 01:54:27.040 --> 01:54:29.575 for a decision um that we delegate 01:54:29.599 --> 01:54:31.336 powers and dues and functions outlined 01:54:31.360 --> 01:54:33.016 in the instrument of delegations 01:54:33.040 --> 01:54:35.336 outlined in the report. Um and I'm 01:54:35.360 --> 01:54:36.536 supportive of the officer's 01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:39.560 recommendation. I think it's spelled out 01:54:39.599 --> 01:54:41.976 fairly clearly in the report. Thank you. 01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:43.976 Thank you, councelor Baker, councelor. 01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:45.655 Any other council wish to speak to the 01:54:45.679 --> 01:54:48.456 motion? 01:54:48.480 --> 01:54:49.976 Thank you. I'll put the motion. All 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:53.000 those in favor? 01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:56.760 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:00.936 Moving on to item nine, supplementary 01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:03.095 items. There are no supplementary items 01:55:03.119 --> 01:55:05.175 this evening. So, we'll move on to item 01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:08.199 10, notice of motion. There are no such 01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:10.936 items this evening, so we'll move on to 01:55:10.960 --> 01:55:13.960 our next item. Item 11, urgent business. 01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:16.215 Does any counselor wish to raise a 01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:19.239 matter of urgent business? 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:23.175 No. There being no urgent business, I'll 01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:25.655 move on to questions through the chair. 01:55:25.679 --> 01:55:27.416 Does any counselor wish to raise a 01:55:27.440 --> 01:55:30.440 question through the chair? 01:55:31.840 --> 01:55:34.840 , moving on to item 13, confidential 01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:37.655 items. There is one item of confidential 01:55:37.679 --> 01:55:40.376 business this evening. Item 13.1, 01:55:40.400 --> 01:55:42.536 property matter. Is someone prepared to 01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:44.135 move a motion that we close the meeting 01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:45.976 to the public in accordance with section 01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.536 66 of the Local Government Act 2020 as 01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:51.560 shown on the screen? 01:55:52.480 --> 01:55:55.480 Councelor Dun moved. 01:55:58.239 --> 01:56:01.095 Thank you. Councelor Baker as mover and 01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:04.119 councelor Duncan as seconder. 01:56:08.320 --> 01:56:09.575 Councelor Baker, is that the 01:56:09.599 --> 01:56:12.599 recommendation as shown on the screen? 01:56:13.679 --> 01:56:14.936 Yes. Thank you. 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:17.960 Thank you. 01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:23.575 Y I'll now put the motion. All those in 01:56:23.599 --> 01:56:25.976 favor. 01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:29.000 That motion is carried. 01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:31.336 We're now going to move into 01:56:31.360 --> 01:56:33.575 confidential items. As this is the last 01:56:33.599 --> 01:56:35.336 item on the agenda, we will not be 01:56:35.360 --> 01:56:37.736 reopening the meeting. Thank you to 01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:39.896 members of our public gallery and those 01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:42.776 meeting um viewing the meeting online. 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.800 Thank you and good night.