WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.456 Welcome councilors, officers, and 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:04.616 members of the online and public gallery 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:06.536 to tonight's council meeting. I'm 00:00:06.560 --> 00:00:08.216 councelor Paige Kennett, and I have the 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.376 privilege of being the Mayor of Knox City 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.336 Council. Council acknowledges the Wurundjeri 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:15.256 Woi Wurrung people and Bunurong people of the 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:17.255 Kulin Nation as traditional custodians 00:00:17.279 --> 00:00:19.415 of the land. Today, we meet on the 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:21.656 traditional lands of the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung 00:00:21.680 --> 00:00:23.255 people and pay our respects to Elders 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:25.415 both past and present. 00:00:25.439 --> 00:00:27.495 The Knox way is characterized by service 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.216 integrity, community participation, 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:32.695 accountability, and good governance. 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:34.616 Council is committed to being responsive 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:36.695 to the community and advocating to other 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.496 government governments and agencies on 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.656 their behalf. We recognize the 00:00:41.680 --> 00:00:43.576 importance of local democracy and 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:45.816 council's responsibility to govern well 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:48.375 for all in our city. Our history is rich 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.535 and in the spirit of the Nox tradition, 00:00:50.559 --> 00:00:53.175 let us move and prosper. 00:00:53.199 --> 00:00:56.055 Tonight we're conducting our meeting in 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.616 a hybrid format. As usual, I'll 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.456 introduce my colleagues and ask that 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:02.375 each counselor give a bit of a wave as I 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.016 call their names. Our counselors in 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.656 attendance tonight are councelor Susan 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.976 Pearce representing Taylor Ward, 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:11.976 councelor Robert Williams representing 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.936 Dinsdale Ward, councelor Glen Atwell 00:01:14.960 --> 00:01:17.415 representing Tirhatuan Ward, councelor 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:19.656 Parisa Considine representing Fryberg 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.296 Ward, Councelor Peter Lockwood 00:01:22.320 --> 00:01:24.536 representing Baird Ward who's just stepped 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.560 out for a moment. Deputy Mayor Councelor 00:01:27.759 --> 00:01:30.216 Chris Duncan representing Collier Ward. 00:01:30.240 --> 00:01:32.696 Councelor Lisa Cooper representing Scott 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:35.016 Ward and also joining us online is 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.016 Councelor Meagan Baker representing 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.040 Dobson Ward. Also joining us in the 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.296 chamber tonight is the chief executive 00:01:42.320 --> 00:01:44.536 officer Bruce Dobson. Director 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.016 Infrastructure Grant Thorn, director 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.040 city livability Matt Kelleher, director 00:01:50.320 --> 00:01:52.616 connected communities Judy Chalkley, 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.055 interim director customer and 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.536 performance Lisa Westberry. Chief 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.415 Financial Officer Yvette Lawkin, Manager 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.816 Governance and Risk Andrew Dowling, and 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.840 Head of Governance Saskia Weirim. 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:09.176 Tonight's meeting is being recorded and 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:11.256 streamed on our website in accordance 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.935 with our live streaming of public 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:15.336 meetings policy. So, council does not 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:17.176 permit additional recordings of the 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:19.416 meeting. I remind everyone that opinions 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:21.176 expressed and statements made during 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:22.855 this meeting are those of the 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.736 individuals making them and not those of 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:27.816 council unless out in a resolution 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.295 passed by council. Council accepts no 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.376 liability for any defirmatory remarks 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.376 made during a meeting. You are 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.136 responsible for your own comments and 00:02:36.160 --> 00:02:38.136 therefore may be personally personally 00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:40.056 liable for any loss or damage they 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.696 cause. Moving now to our order of 00:02:42.720 --> 00:02:45.016 business. The first item is apologies 00:02:45.040 --> 00:02:47.256 and requests for lease of absence. 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.280 Tonight we have no known apologies. 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.136 do we have any requests for leaves of 00:02:54.160 --> 00:02:57.160 absence? 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:59.656 No. Thank you councilors. The next item 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.336 on the agenda is declarations of 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.495 conflict of interest. If any councelor 00:03:03.519 --> 00:03:05.176 has conflict of interest to declare 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:07.256 tonight, now is an opportunity to 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.416 foreshadow that conflict, but I'll ask 00:03:09.440 --> 00:03:10.776 that you declare your conflict of 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.536 interest in full later in the meeting 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.295 immediately before the item is 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.215 considered. Are there any such 00:03:16.239 --> 00:03:19.239 declarations? 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:23.640 No. Thank you. Our next item is 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.736 the I will just note that the minutes 00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:29.656 of the previous mid month meeting held on 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.896 the 8th of December 2025 were confirmed 00:03:31.920 --> 00:03:34.135 at the council meeting in January. So 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:37.159 we'll move on to our next item which is 00:03:37.200 --> 00:03:40.135 item 4.1 of officer reports which is 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.159 minor grant program 2526 monthly report 00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:45.736 and excellence grants for individuals 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:48.760 update for the second quarter. I will 00:03:48.959 --> 00:03:50.775 note that there is an error in one of 00:03:50.799 --> 00:03:52.696 the tables in the officer recommendation 00:03:52.720 --> 00:03:54.935 in point three which is just coming up 00:03:54.959 --> 00:03:57.256 on the screen now relating to grants 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.336 that are recommended for refusal. The 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.295 heading in the third column should be 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.319 note reason for refusal. This will be 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.439 noted in the minutes. 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:14.215 and with that would a council like to 00:04:14.239 --> 00:04:16.536 move a motion. Thank you councelor 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.416 Pearce. And is there a second for that 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:22.440 motion? Councelor Williams. Thank you. 00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:25.016 Is that the officer recommendation? 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:26.455 Councelor Pearce. 00:04:26.479 --> 00:04:28.455 Yes, Madam Mayor. 00:04:28.479 --> 00:04:30.696 Thank you. as mover, would you like 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.216 to speak to the motion? 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.696 Yes. Just quickly, 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.216 Madam Mayor, I wish to recommend the 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.455 office report on the following. There 00:04:38.479 --> 00:04:39.895 are three minor grants which were 00:04:39.919 --> 00:04:42.056 recommended for approval. The golden 00:04:42.080 --> 00:04:45.080 cobra martial arts for $435.74 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.256 to replace their equipment. The writing 00:04:49.280 --> 00:04:52.280 for disabled with $2,272.73 00:04:53.280 --> 00:04:55.895 excluding GST to purchase helmet for 00:04:55.919 --> 00:04:58.136 their riders. the harvest community 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.376 gardens to to purchase additional 00:05:00.400 --> 00:05:02.615 planters due due to the increase in 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.216 demand. 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.240 The recommended grants de demonstrate a 00:05:07.280 --> 00:05:09.656 strong alignment with council strategic 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.416 priorities. 00:05:11.440 --> 00:05:14.440 Strategy 1.2 training and lifelong 00:05:14.479 --> 00:05:17.175 learning. Cobra the golden cobra 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.735 martial arts and the hard crest 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:21.976 community gardens both provide skilled 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.296 development opportunities. martial arts 00:05:24.320 --> 00:05:26.856 training and the garden and environment 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:29.880 skills are respective. 00:05:29.919 --> 00:05:32.536 Strategy 1.5 health and well-being. 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.256 Writing for the disabled Nox directly 00:05:35.280 --> 00:05:36.936 addresses health and well-being through 00:05:36.960 --> 00:05:39.960 accessible um 00:05:40.479 --> 00:05:43.479 I'm going to this word this word theor 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:46.056 therapetic 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:48.936 therap thank you therapeutic writing 00:05:48.960 --> 00:05:51.960 programs for people with disabilities 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.056 community garden supports mental and 00:05:54.080 --> 00:05:55.576 physical health through gardening 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.056 activities and social connection. 00:05:58.080 --> 00:06:00.296 2.4 Four, social connection and active 00:06:00.320 --> 00:06:02.776 learning. All of the three recommended 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.416 grant facilities, social connection and 00:06:05.440 --> 00:06:08.440 active participation are supported. 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:11.336 They support local volunteers and groups 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.496 to deliver community activities directly 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:16.136 aligned with this strategy. 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.936 There is a number of excellence grants 00:06:18.960 --> 00:06:21.960 for individuals awarded to five 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.000 residents for quarter 2. These are in 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:28.840 January. the under 16 boys Victorian 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.120 state softball team, 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.319 the Victorian inline skating team. 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.776 In February, the Victorian 14 mixed 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.800 vaults team which is netball junior 00:06:41.840 --> 00:06:43.656 nationals 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.216 in February. Basketball Victoria Under 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.240 18 B- League International Cup in 00:06:49.919 --> 00:06:52.776 February. Basketball Victoria's Under 18 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.800 B- League International Cup in Japan. 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.015 The excellent grants are for individuals 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:01.015 also aligns with these strategies and 00:07:01.039 --> 00:07:02.936 support individual achievement, 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:05.256 promoting activity, 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:07.416 active learning, active living, sorry, 00:07:07.440 --> 00:07:09.976 and fostering community pride in Knox 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.216 residents accomplishments. Thank you, 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.735 Madam Mayor. 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:15.256 Thank you, Councelor Pearce. Councelor 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:16.776 Williams, the second. Would you like to 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.615 speak to the motion? 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.455 , through you mayor know, I think 00:07:20.479 --> 00:07:22.376 councelor Pearce summed that up quite 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:24.216 well, so I've got nothing else to add. 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:25.816 Thank you, Councelor Williams. Would any 00:07:25.840 --> 00:07:27.175 other counselor like to speak to the 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.199 motion? 00:07:32.479 --> 00:07:35.479 Thank you and I'll now put the 00:07:35.520 --> 00:07:38.520 motion. All those in favor? 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.216 Thank you, Meagan. That motion is carried 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:45.240 unanimously. 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.160 The next item on the agenda is item 4.2, 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.759 6 Margo Street, Ferntree Gully. Before 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:54.455 calling for a motion, I note that there 00:07:54.479 --> 00:07:56.455 was a minor error in the report. It 00:07:56.479 --> 00:07:58.136 refers to the council meeting where this 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.216 item was first considered as being held 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.240 on Monday the 26th of January, 2026. 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.416 However, the meeting was in fact held on 00:08:05.440 --> 00:08:08.440 Tuesday the 27th of January 2026. 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:11.175 Councelor Baker, you have circulated an 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:12.776 alternate for this item. Would you like 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.175 to move your alternate as shown? 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:16.776 Yes, please. 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.735 Thank you. governance will just pop 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.536 that alternate on the screen thank 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:24.615 you councelor Baker. Is there a second 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.639 for that motion? 00:08:47.839 --> 00:08:50.839 as there is no second that 00:08:51.839 --> 00:08:54.776 Oh, okay. Thank you. 00:08:54.800 --> 00:08:56.935 Okay. All right. Thank you, councelor 00:08:56.959 --> 00:08:59.959 Cooper councelor Baker, would you 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.136 like to read the motion for the benefit 00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:05.160 of the gallery, please? 00:09:05.920 --> 00:09:08.375 Well, I'm very making it. the 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:10.856 alternate reads that the council issue 00:09:10.880 --> 00:09:13.255 notice of refusal to grant planning 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.279 permit P/2025 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.776 for/6240 00:09:18.800 --> 00:09:21.016 to permit and building works of a 00:09:21.040 --> 00:09:23.176 rooming house at located at 6 Margo 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.176 Street French Valley subject to the 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.416 following grounds. One, the proposal 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.336 fails to satisfy relevant planning 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.776 policy framework strategies and 00:09:30.800 --> 00:09:33.800 objectives particularly clause 12.05-2L 00:09:33.839 --> 00:09:35.815 05-2L 00:09:35.839 --> 00:09:37.896 dating on foothills of the Knox planning 00:09:37.920 --> 00:09:39.656 scheme. 00:09:39.680 --> 00:09:41.896 Two, the proposal fails to satisfy 00:09:41.920 --> 00:09:43.896 relevant local planning policy framework 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:46.216 objectives and strategies particularly 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.176 clause 15.01-5L 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.016 neighborhood character and clause 00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:52.856 16.01-1L 00:09:52.880 --> 00:09:55.096 housing supply of the Knox planning 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.120 scheme. The three, the proposal fails 00:09:58.640 --> 00:10:01.576 to address the decision guidelines of 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.536 significant landscape overlay schedule 2 00:10:04.560 --> 00:10:07.495 um in brackets SL2 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.255 where the design is uncar 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.896 uncharacteristic of the area. And four, 00:10:11.920 --> 00:10:13.976 the design outcome is not considered to 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.416 be respectful of the existing or 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.736 preferred bush suburban character due to 00:10:17.760 --> 00:10:20.055 the amount of hard surfacing 00:10:20.079 --> 00:10:22.536 surfacing within the local within 00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:23.976 the front step back and appearance of 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.296 the building and a result impact on the 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.320 amenity of the Danny North Hills area. 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:37.656 Thank you councelor Baker. as do you 00:10:37.680 --> 00:10:40.375 wish to speak to the motion? 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.399 I do. Thank you ma'am. Um this decision 00:10:44.959 --> 00:10:47.959 is about place. It's about policy intent 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.456 and it's why whether the proposal is 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:51.976 appropriate in the Danny Northfield 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.495 Hills and within a bush suburban 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.576 neighborhood. The question I raise is 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.016 whether this development is an 00:10:57.040 --> 00:10:59.176 appropriate um is appropriate in this 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.416 location and sits comfortably with a 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.576 place that where our particular policy 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.600 and overlays exists. Pantry Gully and in 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:09.016 particular the Daniel Hills is not just 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:11.096 another suburban area. It has a 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.896 distinctive landscape character. The 00:11:13.920 --> 00:11:16.216 bush suburban policies exist because the 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.216 area is meant to feel green, spacious 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.696 and dominated by vegetation rather than 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.016 buildings or hard surfaces. 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:25.495 While the proposal ticks a number of 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.016 requirements, I don't believe it 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:30.040 captures the spirit of these policies. 00:11:30.079 --> 00:11:31.976 As the voice for the nearby residents of 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.736 Centry Valley who care deeply about the 00:11:33.760 --> 00:11:35.416 character and visual amenity of their 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.336 neighborhood, it's about protecting the 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:38.935 very qualities that make Danny North 00:11:38.959 --> 00:11:41.959 foothills special. The green leafy 00:11:42.160 --> 00:11:44.055 streetscapes, the low scale bush 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:46.136 suburban character and the foothills of 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:49.160 the Dian. It exists because after many 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.255 years of several work done by council to 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.136 protect the area and damills. 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:55.815 Normally council would not be in a 00:11:55.839 --> 00:11:57.576 position to call these kind of planning 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:59.815 items up and could only do so because of 00:11:59.839 --> 00:12:02.216 the triggers in this area which makes it 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:04.776 unique. The first reason for seeking to 00:12:04.800 --> 00:12:06.456 refuse this permit lays with the pling 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:08.935 policy framework relating to the dam 00:12:08.959 --> 00:12:11.336 foothills. These policies exist to 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:12.935 protect the beauty and the landscape 00:12:12.959 --> 00:12:15.495 significance of this area. The proposed 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.416 development with its building bulk hard 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:19.815 surfacing in the front setback and over 00:12:19.839 --> 00:12:22.536 overall visual impact. it would dominate 00:12:22.560 --> 00:12:24.776 rather than complement the landscape. 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:26.615 That's exactly what these policies are 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.696 designed to prevent. 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.096 Secondly, the proposal fee fails to meet 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.896 our local planning policy objectives. 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:35.896 These causes emphasize maintaining 00:12:35.920 --> 00:12:38.216 lowcale bush suburban character and 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.776 preserving garden space, vegetation, and 00:12:40.800 --> 00:12:43.416 the natural streetscapes. The 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.255 development by contrast is out of scale 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.656 with hard services and the built form is 00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:49.896 simply uncharacteristic of the area by 00:12:49.920 --> 00:12:51.976 proving it would erode the visual the 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.576 very qualities that make this area of 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.055 venture bell unique. It is designed to 00:12:56.079 --> 00:12:58.055 make manage residential development by 00:12:58.079 --> 00:12:59.976 encouraging a variety of housing types 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:02.615 to meet the needs of a diverse community 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.216 while balancing growth with the 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:05.736 protection of the foothills environment 00:13:05.760 --> 00:13:08.375 and landscape values. The third reason 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.615 is the significant landscape overlay. 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.375 The overlay exists to protect and 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.016 enhance our hills landscape. I believe 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:17.255 that this proposed design doesn't 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.255 integrate with that natural setting is 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:21.976 unc uncharacteristic and is imposing and 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.216 would have a visual impact that our 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:25.576 community have clearly shared their 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:27.495 views about. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:29.736 Finally, the design is not respectful of 00:13:29.760 --> 00:13:31.815 the existing or preferred bush suburban 00:13:31.839 --> 00:13:33.896 character. The combination of building 00:13:33.920 --> 00:13:35.976 appearances, hard surfacing, and front 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.055 seat back arrangements would compromise 00:13:38.079 --> 00:13:39.656 the amenity of the neighborhood and 00:13:39.680 --> 00:13:42.296 diminish the green leaf streetscape that 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.856 defines this area. This is more about 00:13:44.880 --> 00:13:47.336 the comp. It's not this is more about 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.336 more than about compliance. It's about 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.016 making decisions that respect the unique 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:52.615 character of our suburbs and the voice 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.176 of our community. I'm seeking a support 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.656 from counselors that to also provide 00:13:57.680 --> 00:13:59.175 the opportunity to send a message that 00:13:59.199 --> 00:14:00.856 we have listened to our community and 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:03.096 that the unique charact is worth 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.016 protecting and that our policies are 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:06.696 there to guide us in making decisions 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.016 like this tonight. By refusing this 00:14:09.040 --> 00:14:10.456 application, we have demonstrating that 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.296 we have listened to our residents who 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.216 have informed us of how detrimental this 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.896 is to their res the residents 00:14:15.920 --> 00:14:17.656 surrounding this property while 00:14:17.680 --> 00:14:19.175 maintaining the uniqueness of the 00:14:19.199 --> 00:14:21.656 policies and overlays of the damills. 00:14:21.680 --> 00:14:23.336 and I'm seeking my fellow counselors to 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.896 support this community um in the area 00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:28.920 and be refusing application. 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.416 Thank you, Councelor Baker. Councelor 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:34.935 Cooper a second. Would you like to 00:14:34.959 --> 00:14:35.815 speak? 00:14:35.839 --> 00:14:37.976 I'll reserve my right for now. Thank 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.696 you. would any other counselor wish 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.720 to speak to the motion? 00:14:52.160 --> 00:14:55.160 You can speak to to the motion. Yes. 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.175 Sorry, I thought you said to the motion. 00:14:57.199 --> 00:15:00.136 I'm speaking against the motion. Um 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:02.055 well, I commend Councelor Baker for 00:15:02.079 --> 00:15:04.776 sticking up for her residence. Um I 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:06.856 struggle with this alternate. Um reading 00:15:06.880 --> 00:15:08.216 through the different clauses and 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.216 conditions on it, this looks like an 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.615 open opportunity to take a refusal to 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.536 VCAT, which would more than likely get 00:15:14.560 --> 00:15:17.096 overturned. Um I've gone through all the 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.495 different clauses there. Um, and a lot 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.336 of it is about protecting the Dandy 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:23.815 Foothills vegetation and so forth. This 00:15:23.839 --> 00:15:25.736 propertyy's actually been moonscaped, so 00:15:25.760 --> 00:15:27.576 there's no vegetation on that property 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.055 to protect. Um, the neighborhood 00:15:30.079 --> 00:15:31.896 character, it is a low scale. It looks 00:15:31.920 --> 00:15:34.920 like a single singlestory dwelling. Um, 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:36.776 there's plenty of space out the front 00:15:36.800 --> 00:15:39.255 for us to actually put conditions on the 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.495 landscaping that could be put out the 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.296 front there. Um, and I just I think by 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.216 approving a permit with conditions, we 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.055 will get a much better outcome than just 00:15:48.079 --> 00:15:50.615 refusing a permit, this going to VCAT 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.175 and it being built. So, I I noted just 00:15:53.199 --> 00:15:54.615 quickly going through the offic's 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.456 report, there's approximately 70 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:57.976 conditions we're putting on this 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.536 development, including landscaping and 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:03.560 offsets and things like that. Um, as far 00:16:03.680 --> 00:16:05.735 as the far as the leafy green nature and 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:07.416 and so forth, there's a recommendation 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:09.255 that 80% of the planting that goes in 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.416 there is indigenous trees. there's a 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.336 requirement for a multitude of canopy 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.360 trees to be put in there. Um, and as as 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:18.456 we've spoken about previously and in the 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.136 officer's report, this is not about a 00:16:20.160 --> 00:16:23.160 land use planning issue. Um, it is for a 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.519 rooming house. It does comply. Um, the 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.055 rejection seems more about objecting to 00:16:30.079 --> 00:16:31.976 what the building is, not the way it's 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.055 being built. So, I won't be supporting 00:16:34.079 --> 00:16:36.136 it cuz I believe this would end up going 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:38.856 to the likes of VCAT and cost council a 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:40.536 lot of money to defend a position that I 00:16:40.560 --> 00:16:43.560 don't believe is defendable. 00:16:46.079 --> 00:16:47.735 Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Would any 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.336 other counselor wish to speak? Yes, 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.336 Councelor Williams. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.696 through you, Mayor, I'd actually like 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.255 to ask a question through the chair. 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.216 it's a question for um Director Keller. 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.615 just in regards to this, so listening 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.696 to what councelor Duncan's mentioned, I 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.216 do fully support what he's saying there 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.240 tonight in terms of you know, we've 00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:09.415 we've met all the requirements and we've 00:17:09.439 --> 00:17:10.696 ticked the green boxes that we need to 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:12.935 tick around this property and having 00:17:12.959 --> 00:17:15.096 a read of page 29, you know, 00:17:15.120 --> 00:17:17.736 understanding that um you know, it it it 00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:19.736 may or may not bring more crime to the 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:21.736 area and and neighborhood character and 00:17:21.760 --> 00:17:24.616 and those sorts of things. 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.640 Sorry. 00:17:31.760 --> 00:17:33.655 Sorry, counselor. I are you speaking to 00:17:33.679 --> 00:17:36.679 the motion or are you asking a question? 00:17:37.919 --> 00:17:40.136 I was leading into the question that is 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:43.160 going to answer it. Um, in regards to us 00:17:43.679 --> 00:17:44.936 complying and everything and and 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:46.136 obviously ticking all the the green 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.136 boxes that we need to tick unfortunately 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.696 due to state government legislation, the 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:52.616 chances of us going to VCAT and winning 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:54.216 at VCAT, what are that what's that 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.056 looking like? 00:17:56.080 --> 00:17:58.136 um or the developer winning I should say 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.856 and also what costs would that um pass 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.736 on to cancel if we were to lose or even 00:18:03.760 --> 00:18:05.655 if we were to present it into VCAT at 00:18:05.679 --> 00:18:08.679 this stage 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.960 through you may um if the application 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.216 was refused on the way that we're 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.535 looking at it this evening um and it was 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:20.376 an application for review was lodged 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.696 with the tribunal then yes it would most 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.720 likely be um overturned earned by the 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.000 tribunal. Um in terms of cost, um for an 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.456 application like this where an officer 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.136 has recommended something and council 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.136 does something differently, um we 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:37.576 usually use an independent 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:38.936 representative. So that could be 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:40.376 anywhere from a planning consultant 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.056 through to a lawyer. This is the sort of 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:43.655 case that we usually use a planning 00:18:43.679 --> 00:18:45.655 consultant. So it could be around the 00:18:45.679 --> 00:18:47.976 $5,000 to $10,000 mark. It depends on 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.000 how complicated the appeal is, though. 00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:56.056 Thank you, Director Callaher. 00:18:56.080 --> 00:18:57.736 Did you want to speak to the motion now, 00:18:57.760 --> 00:18:59.176 councelor Williams? 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.816 , yes, through you, Mayor. I'll um now 00:19:01.840 --> 00:19:03.496 speak to it, I guess, rather than um 00:19:03.520 --> 00:19:05.816 lead onto the question. so yeah, look 00:19:05.840 --> 00:19:07.655 based on that and and based on the sort 00:19:07.679 --> 00:19:09.015 of state government restrictions that I 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:11.256 believe are being put on councilors at 00:19:11.280 --> 00:19:13.816 the moment um it appears to tickle the 00:19:13.840 --> 00:19:15.256 right boxes which is sad and I 00:19:15.280 --> 00:19:17.496 understand um councelor Baker's concerns 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:20.520 in regards to the neighborhood um and 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:22.775 the concerns around that but I think as 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.015 councelor Duncan mentioned just 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.256 before I'll be also not supporting this 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:30.280 alternative question. 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.376 Thank you councel Williams. Yes, 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.696 councelor Peace. 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:36.856 Thank you, Madam May. I'm in two minds 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.880 over this. Um, my reasoning is based on 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.576 the fact that it's technically 00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:44.600 compliant. It aligns with our policy. 00:19:45.360 --> 00:19:48.360 It has appropriate conditions. 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.480 Planning versus civil where the officers 00:19:51.679 --> 00:19:53.976 this I think the planning has been done 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.376 perfectly on this 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.400 transparency. We've had a PCC. We've had 00:20:00.080 --> 00:20:02.936 discussions. The floor error has been 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.655 identified and corrected. The implants 00:20:05.679 --> 00:20:07.895 have been amended. But I'm still 00:20:07.919 --> 00:20:10.616 concerned about a few things. The fact 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.640 that the floor area is so close to the 00:20:13.760 --> 00:20:16.760 300 m square 00:20:19.120 --> 00:20:22.120 I I'm two minds whether it it's within 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:25.880 or not type of thing. 44 objections. 00:20:27.520 --> 00:20:28.775 It might be suggested that the 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.799 communities are objecting to this, 00:20:32.320 --> 00:20:34.456 but the officers have addressed those 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:36.216 concerns 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.456 and have 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.480 put in guidelines and conditions in the 00:20:41.760 --> 00:20:44.216 in the proposal. 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.696 This is a bushland suburb, suburban 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:48.616 area. 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.535 Their policies were in place to 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:53.176 discourage development and increase 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.200 housing growth in this area. 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:58.296 That's why those those provisions were 00:20:58.320 --> 00:21:00.056 put in. 00:21:00.080 --> 00:21:03.015 However, 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:05.895 the development meets all the criteria. 00:21:05.919 --> 00:21:07.655 Unfortunately, I think the state 00:21:07.679 --> 00:21:10.679 government are pushing their agenda and 00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:13.976 basically leaving us with no other way 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.000 to refuse this and are just once again 00:21:18.080 --> 00:21:19.895 trying to cause overdevelopment in our 00:21:19.919 --> 00:21:22.135 leafy suburbs and turn it into an 00:21:22.159 --> 00:21:24.936 overpop populated ghetto. So my 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:27.895 objection is that unfortunately we can't 00:21:27.919 --> 00:21:29.655 do anything is and it's a state 00:21:29.679 --> 00:21:31.256 government of caused this hassle and 00:21:31.280 --> 00:21:34.280 problem not us. Thank you. 00:21:35.679 --> 00:21:37.416 Thank you councelor Pearce. Would any 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:38.936 other council like to speak to the 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.960 motion? 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:46.616 Councelor Lowid and then councelor 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:47.256 Cooper. 00:21:47.280 --> 00:21:50.280 Okay. 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.336 Um this is an administrative decision. 00:21:53.360 --> 00:21:55.416 we need to make um whereas an 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:56.775 application is being assessed against 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.936 the planning scheme. what we're being 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:00.376 asked to do is to make a political 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.400 decision um based on objections. 00:22:03.840 --> 00:22:06.296 that's really not within our remit in 00:22:06.320 --> 00:22:08.296 terms of administrative decisions 00:22:08.320 --> 00:22:09.655 against the planning and environment 00:22:09.679 --> 00:22:12.679 act. Um but I think this would have been 00:22:13.120 --> 00:22:15.015 okay before the government changed the 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.655 rules. Um it it seems like a reasonably 00:22:17.679 --> 00:22:20.679 good development for what it is. Um 00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:23.096 you may or may not be fans of rooming 00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:25.015 houses and people object just because of 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.736 of what they are boarding houses but 00:22:27.760 --> 00:22:30.296 that that carries no weight when it 00:22:30.320 --> 00:22:32.216 comes to a planning decision which as I 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.856 said is an administrative decision and 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.456 if it meets all the administrative 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.480 requirements then we have no good reason 00:22:39.520 --> 00:22:41.655 to make a political decision and 00:22:41.679 --> 00:22:44.056 reject it. So I will I will be opposing 00:22:44.080 --> 00:22:46.135 the motion as well. Thank you. 00:22:46.159 --> 00:22:47.736 Thank you councelor Lockwood. Councelor 00:22:47.760 --> 00:22:49.496 Cooper. 00:22:49.520 --> 00:22:51.655 Thank you um thank you councelor Baker 00:22:51.679 --> 00:22:53.176 for raising the alternate. I do 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.056 understand your reasons um for raising 00:22:56.080 --> 00:22:57.976 the alternate because I too have heard 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:01.000 from the community in um your ward 00:23:01.760 --> 00:23:04.056 predominantly from the PCC meeting which 00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:07.080 I chaired that you attended as well. Um 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:09.895 I do hear what council is saying tonight 00:23:09.919 --> 00:23:12.919 and I I tend to agree. Um this council 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.456 Lockwood is right is a administrative 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.480 decision and under 00:23:19.919 --> 00:23:22.856 um in terms of the levers that we have 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.176 to pull we we actually really don't have 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.336 any and that's why I raised the notice 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:29.096 of motion that we put up to council at 00:23:29.120 --> 00:23:31.736 the end of last month's council meeting 00:23:31.760 --> 00:23:33.496 um because the way that the current 00:23:33.520 --> 00:23:35.816 system is working in relation to rooming 00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:38.840 houses um is is not benefiting our 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:41.576 community and the individuals in them. 00:23:41.600 --> 00:23:44.600 Um so what I heard in the PCC meeting 00:23:45.520 --> 00:23:48.520 from residents um was in relation to the 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:52.280 impacts of having a 9-bedroom 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.176 rooming house within their street. Um 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.200 it was not so much to do with um the 00:23:59.679 --> 00:24:01.336 you know the the clauses which are 00:24:01.360 --> 00:24:03.176 mentioned here in relation to the Danny 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.200 Nong foothills and overlays. And when I 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.960 looked up these um clauses and 00:24:10.159 --> 00:24:13.159 overlays, I wasn't able to actually find 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.039 um a substantial enough 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.400 reason or grounding to um sit here 00:24:21.760 --> 00:24:24.535 tonight and and reject um the 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.559 application. So unfortunately I am torn 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.416 like other counselors have mentioned um 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.216 it's not something that I have 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.240 considered lightly and I have read a 00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:40.760 lot of um material to try and find a um 00:24:41.919 --> 00:24:44.135 appropriate foundation 00:24:44.159 --> 00:24:45.976 but I haven't been successful in doing 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:47.976 that. So this evening unfortunately I 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.296 can't support the but I do thank 00:24:50.320 --> 00:24:52.296 councelor Baker for listening to the 00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:53.736 community and putting it forward 00:24:53.760 --> 00:24:56.760 tonight. 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.616 Thank you, councelor Cooper. Would there 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:00.135 any other council like speak? Yes, 00:25:00.159 --> 00:25:01.336 councelor. 00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:04.056 , thanks, Mayor. And, um, yes, I I 00:25:04.080 --> 00:25:06.216 commend councelor Baker for spending the 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.696 time to, , talk to the residents and 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.255 and hear their concerns and, um, last 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.255 week, I think the Mayor and I had a chat 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.096 along with councelor Baker to several of 00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:17.496 the residents, , sorry, two weeks ago, 00:25:17.520 --> 00:25:20.056 from , from the street in Fry Galley 00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:22.696 to hear their concerns. And um I do 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.096 empathize with um with with how they're 00:25:25.120 --> 00:25:26.535 feeling and and the sense of 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.176 inevitability I think that they sort 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.976 of feel when they um um read the the 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.456 recommendation as it's put. So, um, but 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.296 as I said to the residents a couple of 00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:39.255 weeks ago, um, I think, yeah, we need to 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.279 be, um, incredibly judicious with, um, 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.255 um, sending things off to VCAP with a 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.279 refusal and we need to be, um, yeah, 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.535 really quite mindful that those resource 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.856 resources are are constrained in terms 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.576 of appeals and only be going to VCAT 00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:58.216 when we think we've got a really strong 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.616 um, case to make. Um and I think that is 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.376 the responsible thing to do on behalf of 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.336 the whole municipality. But I do um I do 00:26:05.360 --> 00:26:07.255 want to acknowledge um how the residents 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.279 are feeling. Um I know um this may not 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:12.775 go the way they they wish and and are 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.255 hoping. But um the conversation I had 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.096 with them a couple of weeks ago, they 00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:19.255 were they were quite um realistic and 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.056 were really quite across the the the 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:24.696 process and I think were realistic about 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.936 um where this may be headed. So, I just 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.456 wanted to acknowledge um councelor 00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:31.336 Baker's work in in coordinating and 00:26:31.360 --> 00:26:33.336 being on the receiving end of so much 00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:34.616 correspondence and for putting the 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.015 alternate up tonight, but um I will be 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.015 supporting the officer 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:40.775 recommendation. I won't be supporting 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.496 the refusal. I don't think it stands 00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:45.496 much chance at all at VCAP. So, I'll be 00:26:45.520 --> 00:26:47.015 supporting the officer recommendation. 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.936 Thank you. 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.255 Thank you, Councelor Atwell. Would any 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.279 other counselor wish to speak? No, I 00:26:54.320 --> 00:26:57.320 think that that was everyone. I 00:26:57.840 --> 00:27:00.056 personally wanted to acknowledge the 44 00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:02.856 objections that were received. I 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.616 think they represent people in our 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.376 community who care for our local area, 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.400 the character um and sense of safety and 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:11.576 amenity. 00:27:11.600 --> 00:27:13.015 I think it's important that 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.255 counselors be clear with our 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.176 community about the role that we play in 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.200 planning decisions and um how they are 00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:23.176 assessed against the planning scheme. 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.775 And I think you've heard from a number 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.376 of the councilors tonight who have 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.176 spoken to that. the matters raised by 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.736 the objectors have been addressed by the 00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:34.760 permit which were including the external 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.856 materials, drainage, construction 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.496 management and amenity impacts. Several 00:27:39.520 --> 00:27:42.520 other concerns raised did include 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.096 crime, property values, fencing 00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:47.416 materials, social impacts, the lack 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.216 of an on-site manager. but these are 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:51.816 not matters that the planning scheme 00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:54.840 allows council to refuse a permit on. 00:27:55.520 --> 00:27:57.336 This does not mean that the issue these 00:27:57.360 --> 00:28:00.135 issues aren't important. It does mean 00:28:00.159 --> 00:28:02.056 that they sit outside the scope of the 00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:04.936 planning system. Based on the objections 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.456 received 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.616 and with the work from councelor 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.640 Cooper, council unanimously supported 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.856 a notice of motion to that in instructor 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.015 council to write to the state seeking 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.015 improved service support regulation and 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.736 oversight for rooming houses. As 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:23.576 councilors, we must be honest with our 00:28:23.600 --> 00:28:25.336 community about what we can and can't 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:28.056 do. and refusing an application which 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.375 meets the planning scheme would expose 00:28:30.399 --> 00:28:33.399 council and our community, our 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.336 constituents to a legal challenge that 00:28:37.360 --> 00:28:39.416 would not be successful costing rate 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.440 payers. We can commit to advocating for 00:28:43.679 --> 00:28:46.679 stronger supports regulation and 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.856 monitor compliance with permit 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.496 conditions which councelor Duncan has 00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:53.255 spoken to. 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.496 I recognize planning decisions aren't 00:28:55.520 --> 00:28:57.816 always comfortable. Um, and they don't 00:28:57.840 --> 00:29:00.296 always meet our community expectations, 00:29:00.320 --> 00:29:03.015 but , as you've heard tonight, council 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.655 is advocating for better policy settings 00:29:05.679 --> 00:29:07.576 to ensure our current system doesn't 00:29:07.600 --> 00:29:10.535 fall short of what our community want. I 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.375 also want to thank councelor Baker for 00:29:12.399 --> 00:29:14.856 your efforts in putting this alternate 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.880 up and listening to your residents. Um 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.816 and with that I will pass back to 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:24.840 councelor Baker for her right of reply. 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.255 Thank you counset. 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.936 I'm just acknowledging the the 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.960 commentary from my colleagues um and 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.856 note that you know that my residents 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.336 will no doubt be disappointed with 00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:42.056 the outcome heading into the decision 00:29:42.080 --> 00:29:45.080 points tonight. Um but as I previously 00:29:45.120 --> 00:29:47.576 mentioned um you know that obviously the 00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:50.296 area is having its policies um and 00:29:50.320 --> 00:29:53.320 overlays um and you know that with this 00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:57.096 planning application there's a number 00:29:57.120 --> 00:29:58.696 of factors that involve that and my 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.416 community feedback. So um acknowledging 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.496 their feedback and the overlays here um 00:30:03.520 --> 00:30:05.895 as mentioned in my initial conversation. 00:30:05.919 --> 00:30:07.895 Thank you. 00:30:07.919 --> 00:30:10.056 Thank you councelor Baker. I'll now put 00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:13.080 the motion. All those in favor. 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.480 Councelor Baker, can you hear me? 00:30:21.840 --> 00:30:24.616 Okay. And I heard all in favor? 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.640 Yes. 00:30:28.399 --> 00:30:30.856 Oh, okay. Um 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.880 all those opposed. 00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:38.375 we have 00:30:38.399 --> 00:30:41.399 eight votes in the chamber and one 00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:44.520 vote online. 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.039 Please call a division cuz it's hard to 00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:51.080 see on my screen. 00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:54.520 I beg your pardon, Council Baker. 00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.416 A division. 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.856 Please call a division. Yeah. 00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.880 Yes. I'll put that motion again. All 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.960 those in favor 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.720 and all those against. 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.015 Councelor Baker online, councelor 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.176 Pearce, Councelor Williams, Councelor 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.816 Atwell, Councelor Considine, 00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:20.216 Councelor Lockwood, Councelor Duncan, 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.240 Councelor Cooper, and Councelor Kennet. 00:31:23.600 --> 00:31:26.600 I declare that motion lost. 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.096 Yes. 00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:30.775 , would a councelor like to move a 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:31.416 motion? 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.440 I'll move the original recommendation. 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:36.135 Thank you, councelor Lockwood, and 00:31:36.159 --> 00:31:38.856 seconded by councelor Duncan. Councelor 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.216 Lockwood, would you like to speak to the 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:40.696 motion? 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.696 I'll reserve my right. Thank you. 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.775 Thank you, councelor Duncan. 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.535 Um, yes. Thank you, Mayor Kennet. Um, 00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.495 well spoken before and reiterate all the 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.976 all the points that you made. Um, again, 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.336 this is a difficult one. the office's 00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:54.616 recommendation and the additional 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.056 conditions that we're putting on there, 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:57.976 I think are going to be a great outcome. 00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.895 I'm actually really looking forward to 00:31:59.919 --> 00:32:01.336 um seeing what comes of councelor 00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:03.015 Cooper's motion that was put forward two 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.895 weeks ago to actually um provide better 00:32:05.919 --> 00:32:07.895 outcomes for future residents of of 00:32:07.919 --> 00:32:09.976 rooming houses and so forth. But I think 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:11.176 the officer's report is fairly 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:12.696 self-explanatory. It goes through all 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.176 the different items as to where this 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.736 complies and I'm happy to support the 00:32:17.760 --> 00:32:20.296 officer's recommendation. Thank you. 00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:21.895 Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Just 00:32:21.919 --> 00:32:23.895 confirming for those in the gallery and 00:32:23.919 --> 00:32:26.919 those online we are moving the 00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:30.056 offic's recommendation. Would any other 00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:31.816 counselor 00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:33.816 sorry just confirming that it's the 00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:35.416 officer's recommendation with the 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.296 correction as highlighted earlier? Yes. 00:32:38.320 --> 00:32:40.456 Thank you. Any other council wish to 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.480 speak to the motion? 00:32:45.840 --> 00:32:48.535 No. I'll put the motion. All those in 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.559 favor. 00:32:53.919 --> 00:32:56.135 We have eight votes in the chamber and 00:32:56.159 --> 00:32:59.015 all those against. 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.039 And we have one vote online. Thank you, 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.936 councelor Baker. 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.960 I declare that motion carried. 00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:12.296 Moving on to item 4.3, council 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:15.015 appointment to your library limited 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.936 board. Councilors, before I call for a 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:18.616 motion, I'll note that we are seeking a 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.616 nominee for your library board as part 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.640 of the decision before us. , would a 00:33:23.679 --> 00:33:26.056 council like to move a motion? 00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:28.375 Um, 00:33:28.399 --> 00:33:31.336 I'll move the recommendation to appoint 00:33:31.360 --> 00:33:34.135 Mayor Kennet to the library board. 00:33:34.159 --> 00:33:36.696 Thank you, Councelor Lockwood. , 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:37.416 second. 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.440 Thank you, councelor. Um, councelor 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.696 Lockwood as Mover, would you like to 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.720 speak to the motion? Um, I think you'll 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.976 make a great me addition to the 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.000 library board, Mayor Page, and I look 00:33:51.120 --> 00:33:52.936 forward to seeing great results. Thank 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:53.576 you. 00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:55.576 Thank you, C. Thank you, Council 00:33:55.600 --> 00:33:57.416 Lockwood. , councelor Well, would you 00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:58.696 like to speak to the motion? 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.135 , thank you, Mayor. , just to 00:34:00.159 --> 00:34:02.296 acknowledge um councelor Baker and 00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:04.856 Council Lowood's contribution to um the 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.816 your library board through 2025. And 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:09.895 um I'm new to the board. I've attended 00:34:09.919 --> 00:34:11.655 a couple of meetings now and it's 00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.456 yeah exciting place, exciting times in 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.456 the development of library and related 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.176 services across Nox Marinda and Yarrow 00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:22.200 Rangers. So um very much excited and 00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:24.375 and and appreciative of you 00:34:24.399 --> 00:34:26.936 nominating to join your library Mayor 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.456 and look forward to working with you and 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.536 the rest of the board. 00:34:30.560 --> 00:34:32.536 Thank you councelor. Would any other 00:34:32.560 --> 00:34:35.560 counselor wish to speak? 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.960 No, I too would like to acknowledge 00:34:40.720 --> 00:34:43.016 councelor Lockwood and councelor Baker's 00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:45.335 contribution to the library board. Thank 00:34:45.359 --> 00:34:48.359 you for your time. Um and with that, 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.960 I'll pass back to councelor Lockwood. 00:34:52.240 --> 00:34:54.216 No. Okay, I'll put the motion. All those 00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:57.240 in favor? 00:34:57.839 --> 00:34:59.736 Thank you. We have eight votes in the 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.760 chamber and one online. That motion is 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.335 carried. Thank you. 00:35:05.359 --> 00:35:07.656 , moving on to item five, notices of 00:35:07.680 --> 00:35:10.536 motion. There are no such items this 00:35:10.560 --> 00:35:12.136 evening, so we'll move on to the next 00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:15.095 item, supplementary items. Item six, 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.119 there are no such items this evening, so 00:35:18.160 --> 00:35:21.095 we'll move on to the next item. Item 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.936 seven, urgent business, does any 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.736 counselor wish to raise a matter of 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.760 urgent business? 00:35:31.359 --> 00:35:33.176 There being no urgent business, I'll 00:35:33.200 --> 00:35:36.200 move on to confidential business. 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.176 , and as there are no confidential 00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:42.200 items, , I now can declare the meeting 00:35:42.640 --> 00:35:44.776 closed. Thank you for the public gallery 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.335 for attending tonight and those online. 00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:50.359 Good evening.