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Welcome councilors, officers, members of

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the gallery to tonight's council

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meeting. I'm councelor Paige and I have

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the privilege of being the  Mayor of Knox

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city council. Council acknowledges the

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Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people of the Bunurong

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people of the Kulin nation as

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traditional custodians of the land.

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Today we meet on traditional lands of

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the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people and pay our

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respects to Elders both past and

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present. A statement of commitment. The

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Knox way is characterized by service

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integrity and community participation,

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accountability, and good governance.

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Council is committed to being responsive

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to the community and advocating to other

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governments and agencies on their

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behalf. We recognize the importance of

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local democracy and council's

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responsibility to to govern well for all

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of our city. Our history is rich and in

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the spirit of the Knox tradition, let us

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move and prosper.

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We're conducting tonight's meeting in a

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hybrid format as usual. However, we have

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all counselors present in the chamber.

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I'll start by introducing my colleagues

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and ask counselors to give a bit of a

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wave as I call their names. Councilors

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in attendance tonight are councelor

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Susan Pearce representing Taylor Ward,

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councelor Robert Williams representing

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Dinsdale Ward, councelor Glenn Atwell

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representing Tirhatuan Ward,

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councelor Considine,

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sorry, representing

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 Friberg Ward. Bear with me

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councelor Lockwood representing Baird

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Ward. Deputy  Mayor Councelor Chris

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Duncan representing Collier Ward,

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Councelor Lisa Cooper representing Scott

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Ward, and Councelor Meagan Baker

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representing Dobson Ward.

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and I'd also like to acknowledge former mayor

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and counselor Tony Holland is with us in

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the gallery tonight. Thank you for

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attending.

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 joining us also in the chamber is

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acting chief executive officer Mr. Matt

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Kelleher, director of infrastructure. Mr.

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Grant Thorn, acting director, city

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livability Nicole Ward, acting

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director connected communities. Nicole

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Colen, acting director customer and

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performance, Lisa Westberry, chief

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financial officer, Yvette Lawkin, manager

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governance and risk, Andrew Dowling, and

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head of governance, Saskia Weirheim, and

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other members of our governance team.

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Please note this meeting is recorded and

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streamed live on our website in

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accordance with our live streaming of

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public meetings policy and so council

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does not permit any additional

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recordings of the meeting. Members of

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the gallery should note that you may be

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visible in the background of the live

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stream vision. Live streaming and

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recording will be suspended if this

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meeting is closed to the public to

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consider confidential business in

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accordance with section 66 of the Local

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Government Act 2020. I remind everyone

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that opinions expressed and statements

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made during the meeting are those of the

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individuals making them and not those of

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council unless set out in a resolution

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passed by council. Council accepts no

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liability for any defirmatory remarks

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made during a meeting. You are

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responsible for your own comments and

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therefore may be personally liable for

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any loss or damage they cause. I would

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also like it to ask everyone present to

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remain quiet when others are addressing

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the meeting and remind the gallery that

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this is a meeting of council and there

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is no opportunity for members of the

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gallery to to participate in debate

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during the meeting and that questions

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only permissible during public question

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time.

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Moving on to our order of business. The

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first item is apologies and requests for

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leaves of absence.

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Are there any? No, there are no

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apologies tonight. Does any councelor

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wish to request a leave of absence?

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No. Thank you. Declarations of conflicts

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of interest. If there are any conflicts

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of interest to declare tonight, now is

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an opportunity to foreshadow that

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conflict. I'll also ask that you declare

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your conflict of interest in full later

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in the meeting immediately before the

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item is considered. Are there any such

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declarations? Yes, councelor Baker.

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Thank you. and through you Mayor Kennett

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I've also got a um a statement of

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declaration for the notice of motion

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section notice of motion recision um

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number 190 for this evening. Thank you.

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Thank you councelor Baker. Um item three

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on our agenda is confirmation of

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minutes. Is there any opposition to the

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minutes of council meeting held on

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Monday the 27th of October 2025?

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No. There being no opposition, I declare

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the minutes to be confirmed.

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Item four of our agenda tonight is

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presentation, petition, and memorials.

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There are no presentations this evening.

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Are there any petitions this evening?

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No. Thank you. Next on the agenda is

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memorials. Are there any memorials this

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evening?

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No. Thank you, councilors. Item five is

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reports by counselors. We now remove to

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reports by councilors regarding their

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activity since the last council meeting.

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I'll  start on this side of the room

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with councelor Baker, please.

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Thank you, Mayor Kennett. I'll keep it very

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brief. Um I attended the Knox

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Remembrance  day service at  Tim

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Neville Arboretum. Um I also  had the

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honor of opening up the senior's

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exercise park at Wally Chew Reserve. Um

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and I'll be submitting a report for the

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remainder. Thank you.

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Thank you, councelor Baker, Councelor

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Cooper. Thanks,  Mayor Kennett. Um, I

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would just like to highlight a couple of

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things quickly this evening. So, on

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Saturday on the weekend, Knox City

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Football Club had their All Nations um

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cup, which they do every year, and it's

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um always a very, very busy and sold out

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event. Cars everywhere and people

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everywhere. It's fantastic.

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This year, Cyprus actually knocked off

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South Sudan, which is um I think they've

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held the cup for I think it's four years

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in a row, but don't quote me on that.

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So, Cypress, it was four 4-1 and um and

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very  close match. So, that was

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fantastic. Earlier this month with

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yourself, I also attended the BAS's AGM.

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 there's a new manager at the Basin 

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community house. Sorry. Um and  her

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name's Miriam and they've done a

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fantastic job there in the last 12

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months. So I just want to congratulate

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um all at the community house for the

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fantastic work that they've been doing

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within our community there. Um I'm

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pretty sure it was earlier this month

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that I also went to the Rowville

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Community House AGM, but it might have

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been at the end of last month. Um I also

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attended the NOX remembrance service at

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the arboretum which was fantastic and it

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was lovely to see all of the schools

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involvement from across the

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municipality. There were primary schools

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involved in actually delivering the

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service. So it was a it was lovely. Um

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there are a couple of things that I

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spoke on radio about earlier in this

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month with um Radio East FM and the the

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host of the program is Ian Rayson and we

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talked about a couple of things which

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I'd like to remind everybody about. Um

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at the moment currently  no city

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council are um seeking community

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feedback in relation to  waste and we

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we have actually got a number of people

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going around um within the community

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taking surveys but you can also provide

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your feedback on council's have your say

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page on the internet and we are taking

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feedback until the 7th of December. So,

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I would love everyone to jump online and

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go to our have your say page to provide

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your your feedback in relation to the

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household waste services that are

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currently um in place at the moment. Um

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we also consulted over community signage

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um over the past month and um actually I

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might we we opened a couple of new dock

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parks. I'll leave that to the ward

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counselors to discuss. one in um Kings

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Park and Mona Reserve and um

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we also are taking expressions of

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interest for the Immerse Festival. So

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we're inviting um creative people to

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submit expressions of interest to be

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part of our immerse festival for next

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year. Um so I do invite everyone to jump

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jump on board if um if you're of the

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creative kind um and get involved with

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that as well. Um, you can also find that

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via our website, um,

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nox.vvic.goav.au/merse.

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Thank you,  Mayor.

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Thank you, councelor Cooper, Deputy

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 Mayor, Councelor Duncan.

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Thank you,  Mayor Peach. Um, I've

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attended the CEO performance committee

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with a lot of you who also sit on that

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with me. Um, I also went to my third

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outing for the meeting on the open space

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strategy to get the presentation on what

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our plans are for NOX from an open space

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perspective for the next 50 years. So,

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that's been fantastic and it's gone

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along three times. Um, I was invited to

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the Templeton Cricket Club Tastes of the

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World  event on the weekend which

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celebrates their multicultural um

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community there. attended the Knox

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Remembrance Day celebrations with

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yourself, , Councelor Cooper in her

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capacity as  Mayor at the time, councelor

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Baker, councelor Lockwood, and councelor

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Pearce. Um, it was fantastic to see the

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the kids out there with their choir

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singing the Australian national anthem

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and just a really really great day. So

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something we should be proud of being

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able to support now and moving into the

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future. Um, I also went to the official

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opening of the nets at Mari Wallace, but

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I'll leave that for councelor Williams

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in his ward to speak about further. um

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met with met with residents over various

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concerns um and had a very productive

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meeting um regarding the pavilion

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upgrade at Templeton Reserve which I'm

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very passionate about which I've spoken

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to many of you about previously and I'm

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really looking forward to Wednesday next

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week on being able to take you through

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that on the bus tour along with looking

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at  some reserves in your area as well

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council Pearce. So that will be a really

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good opportunity for us to show why

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there is such a need for us to invest in

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in sporting infrastructure in the

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community. Um we also had the second CEO

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meeting which is coming up as part of

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the confidential agenda later tonight. I

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attended the youth advisory committee

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with councelor Williams. Um and the rest

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of it I'll submit in a report. So thank

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you.

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Thank you councelor Duncan. Councelor

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Loid.

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 thank you  Mayor Paige. Um yes, I went

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to the remembrance day  ceremony. I

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won't repeat what was said.  it was a

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great great um thing to go to. um visit

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did a factory visit here at selectronic

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in Lewis Road in the  people's

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paradise of Dinsdale of course and 

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that's distinct from the beautiful beard

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ward  modern factory um  producing

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batteries solar batteries and solar

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panels and it's a it's a near clean

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environment modern manufacturing not the

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old style and and they're they're doing

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doing great and they are happy to show

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us around their business and show us

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what they're doing. I dare say my

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colleague over here um my council

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colleague will have more to say on that

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one. Um I wanted to mention Halloween

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 at the Nox Community Arts Center.

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Well run by our events team. They do

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great. Um I was really happy to see the

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thing going well and the scary things

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inside the hall. They  and and a bunch

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of us went. So I saw a number of

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colleagues up there at that that event

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and  library board mentioned um and

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citizenship. I went to there were four

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citizenships all at once here at Knox

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and I went to one of them which was

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great. Um happy to see  councelor

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Paige um working hard at those events

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too turning up. So and and our MP Mary

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Doyle officiating because so many people

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were sick. C was sick, the  Mayor was

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sick, the deputy was sick, everybody was

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sick. So um it was it was a a sickness

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occasion really. But anyway, we battled

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through um the team did really well, I

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saw in pulling it all together and and

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Leonor and of course councelor Paige um

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pinch heating at the last minute while

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all these things happen when the and the

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birds are falling out of the trees and

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then they did it really well. So I'd

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like to acknowledge that they did really

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well and um I'll leave it at that.

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Thank you councelor Lockwood councelor

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Conidine.

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Thank you through you madame may um I'll

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just keep it very short. Um May Ket and

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I visited the Nox radio control of road

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car club. That event was amazing. We met

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many international competitors and had a

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wonderful conversation with the club

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presidents and other  and the members.

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 I also attended the Vicki Angel

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memorial day with Mary Do. Um Vicki was

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a cher ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch

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ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ched member

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of the Noox United Soccer Club family.

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The day was dedicated to celebrating her

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life, the friendship she built and the

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positive impact she had on others. Um,

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additionally I visited  the links at

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Waterford um retirement village where I

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had a great meeting with some residents

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and the manager. We discussed their

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needs and concern 

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concerns and it was wonderful to hear

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their feedback and insights. Also I have

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visited Nox

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um at Nox Community Art Center the

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Halloween one. It was very scary my ch

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with my children um and um I will submit

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the rest of my report later. Thank you.

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Thank you, Councelor Considine.

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Councelor Atwell.

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, thank you,  Mayor Kennett. , ,

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yesterday I attended the, , shares

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space festive market at the first scout

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hall in Roville. It was wonderful to see

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the local community turn out in droves

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to support, , our local market. Um,

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there were only 31 days to Christmas,

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someone said yesterday, which um which

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scared me a little bit and motivated me

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to do as much of my shopping at the

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market as I could because there was so

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many  local  wares and crafts and

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and bake stores that it was very easy to

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shop up a storm. So, um  the CFA  in

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Roville um brought Santa there, which

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was a highlight of the day for the young

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kids. So, Santa was there with the

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lights and sirens on the truck and um

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the kids were thrilled. So, I do send

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thanks to  Gail and Brian from

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Sharespace and their family and and

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friends and volunteers generally and and

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all of the  storeh holders and

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community groups that um that make 

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those markets  the fantastic community

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event and celebration that they are. So,

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well done to the Sharespace team um for

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a brilliant market yesterday.  on

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Thursday, just gone,  we had the first

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meeting of the Knox  local safety

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committee. Um, this is something that's

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known  well to this council. It's a

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new initiative. It's led by our

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hardworking local police. Um, and is an

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initiative that's strongly supported by

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council. Um, it's not a talkfest. It's a

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very action focused  committee that u

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wants to hear and the police were there

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in numbers. I think we had  um Mel

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Dark, our local  area com commander

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and and the senior  brass from  each

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of our local stations.  we're there to

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hear from  council, to hear from

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community groups about what they're

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seeing and hearing when it comes to

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safety issues across Knox. We've all

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heard loud and clear that this is an

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issue for our residents and our

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communities. Um and people want council

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to be as active and taking as as much

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action as we can and supporting the

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local safety committee is  something

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we're we're absolutely all in on. So um

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I attended in my my capacity as the

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former as the deputy  Mayor at the time,

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but the  Mayor and and and deputy  Mayor

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of today will be the former members of

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council, but it's great as part of the

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terms of reference that all counselors

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will be invited as observers to the

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local safety committee. So I look

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forward to continuing to attend. um on

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Friday the 14th. I I did attend one of

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the the formal citizenship ceremonies. I

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wasn't ill, but I wasn't available for

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the rest of them. Um so I was um I

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attended one with with  Mayor Kennett and

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and and Mary Doyle and was able to um

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yes to officiate and administer the

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pledge of commitment which is a high

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honor for  anyone. So, um, Councelor

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Kennett, um, you'll look forward to

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those, um, over the next year. And it

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was great to see, , Mary Doyle, ,

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step in as well and and carry out that

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role, and I know she said it was a a

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highlight for her. Um, a couple more

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from me. , yeah, a while back, um, the

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2nd of November, I attended the Makers

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and Bakers Market. Um, we love a market

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in Roseville. That was at the Roseville

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Community Center. Um, they're a bit of a

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different offering. um a great market

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that's carving out  a good niche and

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there's another one coming up in a

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couple of weeks I think their final one

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from the year. So  look for the b 

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the makers and bakers market run by 

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the Rotary Club of Roville

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Lististerfield um continues to provide a

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great platform for our local artisan 

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and food producers and there's some

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standout stores there. Um, I also

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attended the  Halloween event at the

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Knox Community Arts Center with

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Councelor Lockwood, councelor 

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Williams. I know councelor um Considine

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was there too. Um, great night. , I'll

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leave it there and I'll submit the rest

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in a report. Thank you,  Mayor.

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Thank you, councelor. Councelor

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Williams.

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Thank you through you,  Mayor. Um, it's

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been another busy month. Um, councelor

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Duncan and myself attended two of the

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Yaks or the youth advisory committees in

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that past month and that's been um,

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pretty busy. They've got their end of

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year celebration coming up in a couple

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of weeks time, so that should be a bit

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of fun. , unfortunately, I'll miss

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that one. I'm sure councelor Duncan will

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 attend on that. It's my birthday on

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that night. So, um I don't know if I can

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get away with not  attending my

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birthday that my wife's prepared for us

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on that one. Um but it's it's a great

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committee to be part of and um we'll see

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some members leave and some new members

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come on board um very shortly. So,

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that's exciting.  likewise  attended

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the CEO performance re  remuneration

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committee um and  just seeing what's

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going on and  working with the team

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for our CEO.  we all attended as we've

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spoken about the haunted  theater at

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Bazewater um which is in the Dinstar

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Ward. It's the community art center

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there and Halloween was a great night

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there. It was a great weekend um seeing

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so many people around. Um, on that same

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night on Halloween night, councelor

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Cooper, , councelor Pearce and myself

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also attended the Knox Historical

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Society, the cemetery tour up at the

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Fentry Galley Cemetery. So, of all

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nights, it would happen to be on

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Halloween and that was  that was a

00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.775
rather um interesting night to go to.

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, they say it was spooky, but we had

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torches and it was a bit of fun. So, um,

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it just so happened to be that night

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that they  they had it, but of all

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things, Halloween.  a couple of the

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counselors. We also  went along to the

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NOX RC club, the um radio control club

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um with cars jumping around.  was one

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of the biggest competitions in Knox um

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and and it was spread worldwide. So, and

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people came from all over the world for

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that one. So, that was great. Um

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attended the remembrance day service on

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behalf of council at the Bazewater RSL

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and laid a um wreath on behalf of um the

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residents of Knox.  recently opened up

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the Marie Wallace Park cricket nets um

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at for the Bazewater Cricket Club. That

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was  a great opportunity to be able to

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do that.  and as well as  opening up

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the Bazewater Marie Wallace Seniors um

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park  that has just opened up in um

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Bazewater. So another great facility

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that we've got in Dinstar Ward as well.

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Um excited to see the Christmas

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decorations up. So, the Christmas

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decorations, I was happy to be there to

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um pop up one of the the first bows with

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the the people um popping those all

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around our um beautiful areas. And it's

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amazing how many emails, phone calls,

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and messages I've received on Facebook

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or or straight on the phone  just

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expressing how good um just bringing the

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vibrance back to Knox with some simple

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decorations. So, I think we've done a

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really great job there. um recently

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attended this weekend the Knox City

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Tennis Club AGM and the First Friends of

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Dan on Creek AGM and just like to pass

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on the congratulations to those elected

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in those roles.  and also was at the

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Elm Street Mission um with Mary Doyle

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and um it's just interesting to see what

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so many little groups do in our area

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just to build up our community and they

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do a great job to help those that are in

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need.  and they are in the lookout for

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a defibrillator and a first a kit. So,

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um, if anyone knows anyone that can help

00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:19.895
them with that, that would be a great

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opportunity for them. , also attended

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the Bazewater Makers Market on the

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weekend and it's just great to see some

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arts and crafts and, , likewise to do

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some shopping. Um, so there was, , it

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was a great attendance and they were

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really pleased with, um, how many people

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came along, , this weekend. Um, like

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Hansel Lockwood mentioned, , visited

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Cell Electronics, um, which is a factory

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in Dinstar Ward.  they're a proud

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Australianmade manufacturer with solar

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and and power and um it's a great

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facility. They've invested millions of

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dollars and and they've been able to get

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 quite a bit from the federal

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government and state government to be

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able to fund what they do there. And um

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it's just great to have an

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Australianmade manufacturer in our 

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local area. And yesterday caught up with

00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.960
councelor um Pearce. Um we've got 6.3.

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We're talking about Hicks court and we

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caught up with some of the residents and

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I u like to acknowledge  we've got

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some of those in the chambers today. So,

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thank you for coming along. Um but it's

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important that we do listen and um

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understand what the residents  have to

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say and  therefore make a decision

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accordingly to that. So,  it was a

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great opportunity to c  catch up with

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um the residents and also um councelor

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Pearce on that. That's been a busy

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month.

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Thank you, Councelor Williams. Councelor

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Peace.

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Thank you, Madame  Mayor. As usual, it's

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been a busy month in Taylor Wood. On the

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31st of October, I attended the

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historical society tour with Councelor

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Williams and the  Mayor, Councelor Cooper

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at the time. Um, the tour was very

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informative. The computer holograms were

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frightening. Um, especially when their

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eyes started to up open and close and

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look at you on Halloween. It was not

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.440
what I wanted to see. Um, so it really

00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:06.535
did bring it to another level. So it was

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:07.895
really interesting to hear about the

00:23:07.919 --> 00:23:09.816
previous counselors who were buried in

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that cemetery and how some are on one

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side of the cemetery and some are on the

00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:17.895
other side of the cemetery. So it was

00:23:17.919 --> 00:23:20.376
rather interesting there.

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Um I also it was interesting to hear

00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:25.416
that the famous painter Arthur Street is

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:26.775
actually buried in the Fry Gali

00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:29.799
cemetery. Um and for those who are aware

00:23:29.840 --> 00:23:31.816
of his work which is absolutely

00:23:31.840 --> 00:23:34.840
extraordinary. On the 7th of November, I

00:23:35.280 --> 00:23:38.216
opened the Roville Lististerfield Knox

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.240
Art Show at Churchill um Wavely Golf

00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:44.520
Club. This is the 51st art show at that

00:23:47.280 --> 00:23:50.056
has been run. The level of skill is

00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:53.080
amazing. It's absolutely so impressive

00:23:53.919 --> 00:23:56.216
and so inspiring. It inspires me to get

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out my pencils maybe one day when I've

00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:00.775
got time. Um the committee and

00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.096
volunteers need to be commended for all

00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:06.120
the hard work and that went involved in

00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.336
running that that f  that show. And

00:24:09.360 --> 00:24:11.736
the show was over 2 days and it was

00:24:11.760 --> 00:24:13.976
absolutely brilliant, well worth seeing.

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.000
And it was also on the  over digital

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so you could actually look at the

00:24:19.760 --> 00:24:21.496
various different paintings as well

00:24:21.520 --> 00:24:24.456
which is really a fantastic idea.

00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.216
On the 9th of November, I attended the

00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.176
Remembrance Day service with um Mary Do

00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.200
MP um  Mayor at the time, Councelor

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.640
Cooper, Council Baker, Councelor Kennett,

00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:38.840
Deputy  Mayor, um Councelor Duncan.

00:24:39.760 --> 00:24:42.616
It was a fantastic service in it was so

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.936
moving and well conducted.

00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.015
Students across Knox were involved in

00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.576
various aspects including the CFI and it

00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:52.600
was absolutely moving. On the 13th of

00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:55.255
November, I attended the AGM for the

00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:58.135
Roville Lististerfield newspaper.

00:24:58.159 --> 00:25:00.376
There was various service awards for 5,

00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.856
10, 20, and 30 years of commitment to

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.176
this paper. Now, this paper is a

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.576
voluntary paper. It's delivered and

00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:10.135
distributed by volunteers.

00:25:10.159 --> 00:25:12.376
My household is one. My daughter is

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:13.895
responsible for that. She has to get off

00:25:13.919 --> 00:25:16.919
a bum and deliver 70 papers in our area.

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.015
If you ever want a really good thing to

00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.895
go out walking, volunteer to actually

00:25:21.919 --> 00:25:24.696
deliver the paper. It's great.

00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.720
Anyway, um Peter Rumble, um who's been a

00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.775
long-term contributor to um the

00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.856
newspaper over 30 years, received an

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.880
award, was welld deserved. On the 16th

00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:37.736
of November, I attended the Quarry

00:25:37.760 --> 00:25:40.760
Safari at H High Hidleberg Materials,

00:25:42.080 --> 00:25:44.856
formerly Hansen Quarry.

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:46.616
This was a fantastic event. And it was a

00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.096
great day despite the weather. Um we had

00:25:49.120 --> 00:25:51.496
there was sausage sizzles, free coffees,

00:25:51.520 --> 00:25:53.496
f paint face painting for the kids.

00:25:53.520 --> 00:25:56.296
There was also a free tour of the quarry

00:25:56.320 --> 00:25:57.895
which I found really interesting cuz

00:25:57.919 --> 00:25:59.496
I've never actually gone on a tour of

00:25:59.520 --> 00:26:02.056
the quarry and it was interesting to see

00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:04.216
all the various things, the various

00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.015
equipment and go into the quarry basin

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.655
was quite interesting.

00:26:09.679 --> 00:26:12.679
Um apart from that I've also been on to

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.816
visited various residents including the

00:26:15.840 --> 00:26:18.840
residents of three of Hicks court who

00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.135
are here in the chamber tonight and

00:26:22.159 --> 00:26:23.576
listen to their concerns about

00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:25.576
developments also other residents

00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:28.216
concerns about developments around tail

00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.240
ward and also about trees and safety.

00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:34.535
I'd like to recommend everyone attends

00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.416
um the bakers and makers market on the

00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.440
first Sunday of the month if you're ever

00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.376
looking for really good Christmas

00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.400
things. Great market. And that's it from

00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:48.535
Taylor.

00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.775
Thank you, Councelor Pearce.  so we

00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:52.696
can continue on with our agenda. I'll

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.720
submit a report. Um, moving on to item

00:26:55.760 --> 00:26:58.616
6.1, report of planning applications

00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.176
decided under delegation between the 1st

00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.200
of October 2025 and 31st of October

00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.096
2025. Would a counselor like to move a

00:27:07.120 --> 00:27:09.816
motion? Thank you, councelor Atwell. Is

00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:11.336
that the officer's recommendation as

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printed?

00:27:11.919 --> 00:27:12.535
Yes, ma'am.

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.255
Thank you. And is there a second for

00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.279
that motion? Thank you, councelor Baker.

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.376
Councelor Atwell, let's move up.

00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:21.895
, just briefly,  Mayor, yeah, it's our

00:27:21.919 --> 00:27:23.576
standard monthly report. I did note

00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:26.135
there was a a refusal in Tahhatuan ward

00:27:26.159 --> 00:27:28.135
at Tetraona quadrant in Rogville. The

00:27:28.159 --> 00:27:29.655
refusal for the removal of a tree. I'm

00:27:29.679 --> 00:27:31.015
not sure I've seen a refusal in there

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.496
before, but um perhaps I've missed it,

00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:34.936
but I will I've made a note to follow

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.296
that one up to find out a little bit

00:27:36.320 --> 00:27:39.320
more about that one. I would note I

00:27:39.360 --> 00:27:41.096
think as a proportion of these that we

00:27:41.120 --> 00:27:43.336
see each month, the number of tree

00:27:43.360 --> 00:27:46.216
removal and pruning seems to be sort of,

00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.296
you know, um is quite is notable in

00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:49.895
terms of how it's trending. A lot of

00:27:49.919 --> 00:27:52.056
these are around pruning and removal of

00:27:52.080 --> 00:27:54.056
trees. um as much as they are anything

00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:55.816
else. So, we'll keep an eye on that and

00:27:55.840 --> 00:27:57.176
I'll follow up that  that one in

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.176
Tahhatchan Ward, but  it's our fairly

00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.456
standard monthly report. Thank you,

00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:01.096
 Mayor.

00:28:01.120 --> 00:28:04.120
Thank you, councelor. Councelor Baker.

00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.456
Thank you. Does any other counselor wish

00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.480
to speak?

00:28:09.840 --> 00:28:12.135
No, councelor. Oh, sorry. Councelor

00:28:12.159 --> 00:28:13.736
Pearce.

00:28:13.760 --> 00:28:16.760
Thank you, Madam May. Can we move the um

00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.576
genderite? No, that's not what he's he's

00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:21.176
choking his head at me, so I wasn't sure

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.200
what I was actually meant to say. So, if

00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:26.535
I've got a procedural motion for you a

00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.135
little bit later,

00:28:28.159 --> 00:28:29.496
I haven't forgotten. Thank you for the

00:28:29.520 --> 00:28:31.655
reminder. Councelor Abwell, as mover,

00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:32.856
would you like to speak to the motion?

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.880
No. , I will put that motion. All

00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.096
those in favor?

00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:41.816
Thank you. I'll declare that motion as

00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:44.840
carried. , item 6.2, Two, proposed

00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:47.416
sale of Kingston Links Bankside land

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.216
sale post engagement. Before I call for

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.216
a mover, I'll remind councilors that we

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.135
may need to close the meeting if there

00:28:54.159 --> 00:28:56.216
are detailed questions or debate about

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.976
the matters set out in confidential

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.456
attachments for this report. Councilors,

00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.856
I also note that there is a minor

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.176
topographical error in the officer's

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.816
recommendation in recommendation.

00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:10.840
6. I refer you to the on-screen

00:29:11.520 --> 00:29:13.255
resolution for this correction to

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.279
correctly spell the word is extent.

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:28.856
Would a counselor like to move the

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.576
motion?

00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:33.816
Thank you, councelor Pearce. Is there a

00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:35.176
second for that motion? Thank you,

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.336
councelor. Councelor Pearce, would you

00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.096
like to speak to the motion?

00:29:39.120 --> 00:29:41.096
No, I reserve my right.

00:29:41.120 --> 00:29:42.856
Thank you. Councelor Abwell, would you

00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.655
like to speak to the motion?

00:29:43.679 --> 00:29:45.976
, thanks,  Mayor. It is is in is in

00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.736
Tahhatchu and Ward, so I thought I I

00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:49.655
should speak to this briefly. Um,

00:29:49.679 --> 00:29:51.736
council originally resolved to sell this

00:29:51.760 --> 00:29:54.760
land on I think it was January 2019,

00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.135
worked through a process sort of preco

00:29:58.159 --> 00:30:00.936
um and then has come back at this again

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.336
after Jul's due to co and then we've

00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:04.775
worked through the process again in the

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.255
interest of transparency. So I don't I

00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.176
it's a considerable report. I'll take it

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.775
as red. I don't think I need to trace

00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.096
back over  the full chronology other

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:16.120
to say other other than to say um yeah

00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.096
so we've we've obtained a new valuation.

00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:21.576
There are new terms proposed um and

00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:23.895
we've gone out to community consultation

00:30:23.919 --> 00:30:26.696
from late October  through to sort of

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.856
the 11th of November.  there were four

00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.336
contributors but I had your say 

00:30:31.360 --> 00:30:34.360
responses I think  adequately

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.255
addressed those in the report. Um  not

00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.096
many contributions. There were only 71

00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:41.496
views, one project follower. So I think

00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:43.576
that probably represents where this sits

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:46.216
in terms of being a  on the pulse

00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:47.816
issue for the community. There were some

00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:50.840
concerns about  what the um sale the

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.736
proposed sale of this land would do for

00:30:53.760 --> 00:30:56.216
 you know um could it be a missed

00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.775
opportunity in terms of um open space

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.799
and community sporting facilities? Um I

00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:03.736
think given where this is and the the

00:31:03.760 --> 00:31:06.760
positioning of the land um selling it

00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.416
makes sense and um we have also factored

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.255
these funds into our capital works

00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.416
program um for this year. So, we're

00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.736
we've we've booked these funds to build

00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:17.255
u new and different things across the

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.255
community in this budget that we adopted

00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.279
um a few months ago. So, um um I think

00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:24.775
we should  proceed. I think it was

00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:25.976
good to go back and repeat the

00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.576
consultation under the new local

00:31:27.600 --> 00:31:30.456
government act. Um we've addressed the

00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.480
community feedback and I think it  is

00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:36.056
a logical logical parcel of land to

00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:37.816
sell. We don't have many of those that

00:31:37.840 --> 00:31:40.535
tick all those boxes and  as I said we

00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.176
are already investing the funds in in

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.416
building more  and new facilities for

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.976
the community across Knox. So  happy

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.696
to support um the post engagement 

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:52.856
part of this process. Thank you.

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.696
Thank you councelor Atwell. Would any

00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.720
other council like to speak?

00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:01.080
Councelor Pearce mover would you like to

00:32:01.919 --> 00:32:03.655
exercise your right of reply? Yes,

00:32:03.679 --> 00:32:06.679
madame  Mayor. Just briefly, this land is

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:08.456
actually landlocked. There's no access

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:10.775
to the land. So, it's a really good

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.576
block of land to actually sell cuz we've

00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:16.600
got we can't actually use it. So, I'm

00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:19.976
all in support for actually putting this

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.000
out to community consultation and for

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.816
noting the report. Thank you.

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:27.976
Thank you, Councelor Pearce. I'll now

00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.000
put the motion. All those in favor?

00:32:31.679 --> 00:32:34.679
Thank you. That motion is carried.

00:32:37.360 --> 00:32:40.360
The next item is item 6.3 three Hicks

00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:42.535
court roal, but I understand that a

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.856
council wants to move a procedural

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.336
motion to change the order of business.

00:32:47.360 --> 00:32:49.255
Councelor Pearce.

00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.576
Yes, madame  Mayor. I'd like to move a

00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:54.296
procedural motion to move 6.3 to after

00:32:54.320 --> 00:32:57.320
question time so that some of our

00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:59.736
residents can be heard. So council

00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:01.736
resolved to change the order of business

00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:04.760
considered item 6.3 three Hicks Court

00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.039
Roville after items item seven of the

00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:11.320
public question time. Thank you.

00:33:12.399 --> 00:33:14.775
And so I'll also have to ask for a

00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.856
seconder for that motion. Thank you

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.336
councelor Williams.

00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:22.360
, as second council Williams.

00:33:23.360 --> 00:33:25.816
Oh, mover.

00:33:25.840 --> 00:33:28.375
, councelor P, sorry, councelor Pitz,

00:33:28.399 --> 00:33:31.255
would you like to speak to the motion?

00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.495
It's just that this is a very um

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.296
interesting um development and I'd just

00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:37.976
like for some of my residents to be

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.000
heard before our decisions is made as

00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:43.015
part of good governance.

00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.936
Thank you, Councelor Pearce. Councelor

00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.096
Williams, would you like to speak?

00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:50.120
Yes, through you,  Mayor.  likewise um

00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.696
 the same comments as councelor

00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.535
Pearce.  and I do know we have some

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.775
questions already from  some residents

00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.535
of Hicks court. So I'd like to hear

00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.296
those before we make a decision.

00:34:00.320 --> 00:34:02.135
Thank you councelor Williams. Does any

00:34:02.159 --> 00:34:04.696
other council wish to speak?

00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.576
No. I'll put the motion. All those in

00:34:07.600 --> 00:34:10.135
favor

00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.159
that motion is carried. Thank you. 

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.000
item 6.4 4 council submission to

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.280
planning scheme amendment C225

00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:24.296
Y R A N E erasia management overlay

00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.296
review. Would a council like to move a

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.615
motion?

00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.496
Thank you councelor Bacon.

00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:34.456
Is there a second to that motion?

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.536
Oh, sorry.

00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:39.560
An alternate. Thank you councelor Baker.

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.736
Councelor Baker, is that your motion on

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.575
the screen? It is. And would you like me

00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.976
to read it? Yes. Okay, no worries. So,

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.000
my alternate motion for this item 6.4,

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.296
a council submission to planning scheme

00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.320
amendment C225 Y R Y R, erosion

00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.136
management overlay review. Um and the

00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:22.856
alternate reads that council one endorse

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.856
the submission lodged on the 29th of

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.880
October 2025 provided at attachment one

00:35:28.640 --> 00:35:31.640
of the officers report. Two note that

00:35:32.240 --> 00:35:34.376
council officers have requested that no

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.696
city council be kept informed by Yara

00:35:36.720 --> 00:35:39.176
Rangers SH council of progress and

00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:41.815
decisions on the amendment. Three,

00:35:41.839 --> 00:35:44.136
commission a preliminary erosion risk

00:35:44.160 --> 00:35:46.616
assessment in brackets landslide and

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:49.496
debris flow susceptibility for the Danny

00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:51.335
Nong foothills and other relevant areas

00:35:51.359 --> 00:35:54.359
of Nox in the 202526 financial year.

00:35:55.359 --> 00:35:57.496
Four, request a further report to

00:35:57.520 --> 00:36:00.055
council once the preliminary erosion

00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.696
risk assessment is complete outlining

00:36:02.720 --> 00:36:05.256
findings, implications, and recommended

00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.095
next steps.

00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.095
Five, refer the commissioning of an

00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.119
erosion risk study for NOX to the 202627

00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.055
budget deliberations for consideration

00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.936
of funding to undertake detailed erosion

00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.256
and debris flow susceptibility analysis

00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.815
in Nox subject to the findings of the

00:36:23.839 --> 00:36:26.839
prelim preliminary assessment noted in

00:36:27.040 --> 00:36:30.040
point 4 six. authorized the  Mayor and

00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:32.216
CEO to write to the state government for

00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:34.856
guidance, technical support, and funding

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.536
to assist councils with erosion

00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:38.456
management consistent with the

00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.936
recommendations of the McCrae Landslide

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.960
Board of Inquiry. And seven, request

00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.216
officers to consider the findings of any

00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:48.456
erosion risk management assessment for

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.696
NOX in future updates of the NOX climate

00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:53.656
response plan and municipal emergency

00:36:53.680 --> 00:36:56.216
management plan to ensure alignment with

00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:59.240
the emerging erosion related risks.

00:37:01.520 --> 00:37:03.575
Thank you councelor Baker. Is there a

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.599
second for that motion?

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.376
Councelor Pearce. Thank you. 

00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.736
councelor Baker, would you like to speak

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:16.216
to the motion?

00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:17.656
Thank you. And thank thank you,  Mayor

00:37:17.680 --> 00:37:18.936
Cooper, and thank you for seconding

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.335
that. Um I have an alternative as I've

00:37:21.359 --> 00:37:23.496
just read out. Um I will be supporting

00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:25.095
the recommendations that were outlined

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.776
in the original report, but have

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.095
additional points as I've read out. Um,

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.095
this matter is significant not only to

00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.176
our neighboring municipality but to the

00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:35.496
Knox community as well. While the

00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:37.335
amendment applies solely to the land

00:37:37.359 --> 00:37:39.815
within the Rangers SH council, the

00:37:39.839 --> 00:37:42.055
findings of the technical study may have

00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.216
clear implications for areas along our

00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:46.055
shared boundary particularly in the

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:47.815
Danny Nong foothills such as Fentry

00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:49.896
Gully, upper Fentry Gully and a section

00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.920
of the basin. As we know, the severe 

00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.119
storm events between 2019 and 2022

00:37:56.720 --> 00:37:58.696
caused major environmental changes

00:37:58.720 --> 00:38:01.016
across the Dany Nong ranges. This

00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:03.976
disrupted profiles under undermined

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.696
vegetation stability um and contributed

00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:09.720
to possible land slip events. These

00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.416
changes just don't stop at our

00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.575
boundaries. The train we share is

00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.256
continuous and so are the possible

00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.656
risks. Hence why I've had my alternate

00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:20.680
tonight. What Yo Rangers has done 

00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.416
using modern lighter technology and

00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.815
detailed monitoring is providing a level

00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:27.736
of geotechnical insight that simply

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.976
hasn't been available before. Their

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.736
updated mapping has identified

00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.656
properties that are generally that that

00:38:33.680 --> 00:38:36.296
generally might be of risk of landslip

00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.095
or for the first time debris flow. This

00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:40.776
alternate seeks further in

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.776
investigations across parts of NOx that

00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.496
abutz rangers council.

00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:47.815
Although the study  has not included

00:38:47.839 --> 00:38:50.839
NOX, um I must commend our  officers

00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.616
who have made a submission on behalf of

00:38:52.640 --> 00:38:55.416
Knox City Council. Um while we do not

00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.095
have our own technical assessment, the

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.575
information has been provided raises

00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.896
important considerations for Knox,

00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.055
particularly a potential debris flow

00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.536
path near Bowen Avenue in the basin and

00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:09.560
landslip s um sustability near Burwood

00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:11.736
Highway and the foothills dead on

00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.055
foothills end. Um I support the

00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.136
officers's lodging submission um for the

00:39:16.160 --> 00:39:18.055
NOX interest and clearly understand and

00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.616
note the important strategic work this

00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:23.095
that this will cause for NOX. Um so

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.256
thank you to the office for doing this.

00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.280
I feel that this alternate um with the

00:39:28.560 --> 00:39:29.976
with the submission include is a

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.136
sensible, precautionary and responsible

00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:34.696
step for NOX. Um it ensures that we stay

00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:36.616
engaged with the process. We work with

00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:38.856
our neighboring council um and we

00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:40.376
understand the implications that this

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.456
may have for our community and it

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.376
supports further evidence planning and

00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.216
further evidence and planning work

00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:49.240
within NOX. Um, as outlined in the

00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:52.680
report, I'm merely seeking some pre um a

00:39:53.040 --> 00:39:55.656
risk assessment to be undertaken um and

00:39:55.680 --> 00:39:57.416
for a report to come back to council

00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.440
outlining any um considerations that

00:40:00.640 --> 00:40:03.095
need to be considered um findings,

00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.016
implications, and recommended next

00:40:05.040 --> 00:40:08.040
steps. Um from there um I've also asked

00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:10.456
for the  Mayor and CEO to write to the

00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.616
state government for any guidance,

00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:14.456
technical support, funding to assist

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.456
councils with erasion management and

00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.335
consistent um with the recommendations

00:40:19.359 --> 00:40:20.936
as outlined in the report with the

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.960
inquiry. Um so for me this was something

00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.696
that obviously with the ward that I

00:40:26.720 --> 00:40:28.856
represent I feel this is important

00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.095
information. It's important strategic

00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.119
work. Um and the report outlines why

00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:36.536
this is so imperative to be undertaken

00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:38.616
and I'm seeking  my council's support

00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:40.616
with this and once again I would like to

00:40:40.640 --> 00:40:42.456
thank the officers for their detailed

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.136
information in their submission to Y

00:40:44.160 --> 00:40:47.016
rangers um and feel that this is

00:40:47.040 --> 00:40:49.575
important strategic work that we need to

00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:50.936
consider moving forward for our

00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.456
residents that are but your rangers

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.335
council. Thank you.

00:40:55.359 --> 00:40:57.016
Thank you councelor Baker that was an

00:40:57.040 --> 00:40:59.335
excellent information. Councelor Pearce

00:40:59.359 --> 00:41:01.656
would you like to speak to second? Yes,

00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:04.456
madam  Mayor. Only briefly. I commend my

00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:06.536
colleague for looking at this report.

00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:08.295
When I looked at the report, I thought

00:41:08.319 --> 00:41:10.136
yes, landslides don't stop at a

00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:13.160
boundary. Um, we need to be concerned,

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.440
especially with the impacts of climate

00:41:16.560 --> 00:41:19.560
change around Knox and especially this

00:41:20.240 --> 00:41:23.240
report. I commend extending the report

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.335
to Knox and going in and looking at the

00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:27.335
risks. This is a risk that we need to be

00:41:27.359 --> 00:41:29.335
concerned about. We don't have a

00:41:29.359 --> 00:41:32.359
perfectly flat m municipality. We have a

00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.736
lot of hills. We have the wonderful fern

00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.815
tree gully foothills. We need to look

00:41:37.839 --> 00:41:40.216
and protect these areas. So I commend

00:41:40.240 --> 00:41:42.856
this report to my colleagues. Thank you.

00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:44.696
Thank you councelor Pearce. Does any

00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:47.720
other counselor wish to speak?

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:49.896
Councelor B. Oh

00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:50.456
question.

00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.295
Absolutely. Councelor Duncan.

00:41:52.319 --> 00:41:54.055
Um through you may just a quick

00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.079
question. Um and and I'm very happy with

00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.256
the with to be supporting this. But just

00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.416
at point three, commission a preliminary

00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.815
erosion risk assessment to land

00:42:03.839 --> 00:42:05.736
landslide and debris flow susceptibility

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.136
of for the den foothills. I'm just

00:42:08.160 --> 00:42:10.136
wondering what the anticipated cost of

00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:11.815
that preliminary report would be that

00:42:11.839 --> 00:42:14.839
we're committing ourselves to.

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.440
Thank you, councelor Duncan.

00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:23.575
Okay, I'll direct that question to

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.736
Nicole Ward. Um, thank you through you,

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.136
Madam  Mayor. Um, , thanks Councelor

00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:31.160
Duncan. Um, the, our understanding is

00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:33.815
that, um, the first is just like a risk

00:42:33.839 --> 00:42:35.896
assessment. Our officers are already

00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.656
having conversations, have been involved

00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:40.616
discussions with, , Y Rangers Council

00:42:40.640 --> 00:42:43.016
um, and, um, there's an offer of them

00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:44.295
providing potentially some of the

00:42:44.319 --> 00:42:45.736
technical data for us to have a look at

00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.376
as well. Um the assessment is that we

00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.016
can do it just within existing resources

00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:53.016
um as a first cut and then understand

00:42:53.040 --> 00:42:56.040
whether um through that process um 

00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.095
more detailed analysis is required in

00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.416
which case um if the motion is carried

00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.440
we'd come back to council.

00:43:05.839 --> 00:43:08.696
Thank you very much for that. Um yeah I

00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:11.016
think this is a fantastic idea. agree

00:43:11.040 --> 00:43:13.496
wholeheartedly with councelor Baker's

00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:15.335
sentiments as to why we need this and I

00:43:15.359 --> 00:43:16.856
think it's a very good pickup councelor

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.616
Baker to be able to add all this into it

00:43:18.640 --> 00:43:21.640
and not just accept um yara rangers as

00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:24.216
you said councelor Pearce it landslides

00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:27.016
don't stop at the border um fairly lucky

00:43:27.040 --> 00:43:29.976
in  collard we're fairly flat not very

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.136
susceptible to these but we we have a

00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:33.575
job to do the right thing by everybody

00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:34.776
in Nox and I think this is something

00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.136
that's very very important that we

00:43:36.160 --> 00:43:37.815
should all get behind and support so

00:43:37.839 --> 00:43:40.216
congratulations councelor Baker 100%

00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:41.896
will support this way.

00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.575
Thank you, councelor Duncan. Councelor

00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.599
Baker as me, would you like to exercise

00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:48.456
your right of reply? Just thank you for

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.055
the feedback from my colleagues so far

00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.055
in supporting this. I do appreciate it

00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.055
and I I feel it's a very important piece

00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.079
of work um that we need to address for

00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.656
our residents. Um and as I said, I

00:43:59.680 --> 00:44:01.575
appreciate the offic's time um in

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.856
addressing this and working with the

00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.256
arranger council um and being collegiate

00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:06.696
with our neighboring council. So, thank

00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:08.295
you.

00:44:08.319 --> 00:44:10.216
Thank you, councelor Baker. I'll now put

00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:13.240
the motion. All those in favor.

00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.440
I declare that motion carried.

00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:19.575
We move on to item seven, public

00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.055
question time. Council allocates 30

00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.976
minutes to consider questions from the

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:25.656
community. I'd like to take this

00:44:25.680 --> 00:44:27.656
opportunity to remind everyone that

00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:29.976
public question time is not your only

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.616
opportunity to engage with council. If

00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:34.536
you have questions, I encourage you to

00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:36.456
consider contacting council through our

00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.936
usual channels, including through our

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.856
customer service team or via our

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.256
website. I would also encourage everyone

00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.496
to make the most of our have your say

00:44:45.520 --> 00:44:48.055
page to access information about current

00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.856
projects to submit questions or provide

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.736
feedback. Our protocols for submitting

00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.335
and considering public questions are

00:44:55.359 --> 00:44:57.176
also set out in council's governance

00:44:57.200 --> 00:44:59.976
rules, which include an opportunity for

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.136
submitters to lodge a maximum of two

00:45:02.160 --> 00:45:04.616
questions and for submitters to speak to

00:45:04.640 --> 00:45:06.856
their questions for up to 2 minutes.

00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.696
Copies of all questions submitted are

00:45:08.720 --> 00:45:11.335
circulated to counselors in full

00:45:11.359 --> 00:45:14.295
inclusive of any commentary. Before we

00:45:14.319 --> 00:45:15.815
move to questions, I'll remind

00:45:15.839 --> 00:45:17.496
submitters that this is an opportunity

00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:19.496
to introduce your question you have

00:45:19.520 --> 00:45:21.335
already submitted and not an opportunity

00:45:21.359 --> 00:45:23.896
to participate in debate or an

00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.295
opportunity to change or add to the

00:45:26.319 --> 00:45:28.856
questions you have already submitted. By

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.776
choosing to participate, submitters

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.776
acknowledge that your name, submissions,

00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.936
and your image are being captured and

00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.095
may be broadcast on the live stream and

00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.656
recording. I also remind you that you

00:45:39.680 --> 00:45:41.176
are personally responsible for your own

00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:43.335
comments and therefore may be personally

00:45:43.359 --> 00:45:45.416
liable for any loss or damage they may

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.896
cause. I would also like to ask that

00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.295
respect be afforded to all participants

00:45:50.319 --> 00:45:52.456
and that the gallery remain silent when

00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.176
people are speaking. We'll now move on

00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:57.656
to our questions. Our first question

00:45:57.680 --> 00:45:59.416
tonight is from a resident who has

00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.736
requested to remain anonymous but whose

00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.136
details have been provided to council.

00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:06.856
I'll read the question for them which

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.880
are what actions have been taken or are

00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.536
planned to address the inappropriate

00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:15.560
fencing made up of car parts and flimsy

00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.000
materials often not secured properly and

00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.119
blown onto one road and foot paths.

00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.960
graffiti and ongoing neglect at 275 to

00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:30.040
279 Wturna Road and graffiti at 276

00:46:31.359 --> 00:46:34.359
Wturner Road.

00:46:34.720 --> 00:46:36.216
Yeah.

00:46:36.240 --> 00:46:38.295
The second part of that question is,

00:46:38.319 --> 00:46:40.376
does council intend to strengthen or

00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.776
enforce requirements to ensure that

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.016
vacant properties and demolition sites

00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:47.815
are properly fenced, secured, and long

00:46:47.839 --> 00:46:50.376
grass regularly maintained to prevent

00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.400
similar long-term issues in the future?

00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.896
And the third part of that question is,

00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.536
will council have these sites cleaned up

00:46:58.560 --> 00:47:01.256
and made presentable before Christmas so

00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.176
the neighborhood reflects a safe and

00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:05.335
well-maintained environment for the

00:47:05.359 --> 00:47:08.216
community over the holiday period. I'll

00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:09.896
direct these questions to our acting

00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.920
director, city livability, Nicole Ward,

00:47:13.040 --> 00:47:14.776
who will provide a response to all

00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.800
questions. Thank you.

00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.776
Through you,  Mayor Kennett. Um there's a

00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.536
long history to the issues that have

00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:24.856
been identified at these properties and

00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:26.295
officers have been working with the

00:47:26.319 --> 00:47:28.616
owners for several years to address

00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:31.640
ongoing issues of unsightliness, unsafe

00:47:31.839 --> 00:47:33.736
conditions and earlier issues with

00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.496
squatting.

00:47:35.520 --> 00:47:38.520
The properties at 275 to 279 Turner Road

00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:40.456
previously contained three dwellings

00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.536
that had become a venue for considerable

00:47:42.560 --> 00:47:45.496
antisocial behavior, unsightliness, and

00:47:45.520 --> 00:47:47.976
safety concerns. council successfully

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:49.656
had the former dwellings demolished a

00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:52.216
number of years ago. It is unfortunate,

00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:54.216
however, that the de demolition of the

00:47:54.240 --> 00:47:55.656
structures on the site have not

00:47:55.680 --> 00:47:57.256
prevented further issues with the

00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:58.856
properties.

00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.696
Officers from the community laws team

00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:02.616
and the building services team attended

00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:04.216
and inspected the properties following

00:48:04.240 --> 00:48:07.240
the original complaint in October 2025

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.256
and have again inspected the properties

00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:10.536
recently following further

00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:13.496
correspondence from the submitter.

00:48:13.520 --> 00:48:15.335
With regards to the unsightliness

00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:17.575
concern, under the amenity local law,

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:19.736
council officers have issued notices to

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.760
comply to 277 and 279 Wernerna Road to

00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:27.256
cut back long grass and remove the

00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.815
rubbish from the vacant blocks and to

00:48:29.839 --> 00:48:31.575
take account of recent weather events.

00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:33.496
These works must be completed by the end

00:48:33.520 --> 00:48:35.575
of November.

00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.896
With respect to the fence, if a site is

00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:39.656
left unfenced, it obviously becomes a

00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:42.055
target for illegal dumping. The fencing

00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.856
is intended to prevent illegal dumping.

00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.856
However, the fence then becomes a target

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.496
for damage and graffiti.

00:48:49.520 --> 00:48:51.095
Through the inspection by a building

00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.016
officer, it was noted that the existing

00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:55.095
timber boundary fencing was in poor

00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.416
condition and does not present well.

00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.736
However, it was not deemed unsafe or

00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.295
hazardous. This limits the ability for

00:49:02.319 --> 00:49:04.376
council to require works to be carried

00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.400
out. To reduce the likelihood of further

00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.335
deterioration, the building officers

00:49:09.359 --> 00:49:11.896
have installed props on some sections of

00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:13.575
the fence.

00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:14.696
Importantly, from a building

00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:16.295
perspective, there is no legal

00:49:16.319 --> 00:49:18.376
obligation on the owners to install

00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.176
fencing or to restrict access to their

00:49:21.200 --> 00:49:23.416
properties. Although the fence is in

00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.335
poor condition and does not look the

00:49:25.359 --> 00:49:27.416
best, it has been assessed as not being

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.295
unsafe at this time.

00:49:30.319 --> 00:49:32.136
Community Laws has engaged with the real

00:49:32.160 --> 00:49:33.815
estate agent to make them aware of

00:49:33.839 --> 00:49:35.736
community concerns and feedback on the

00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.976
fencing and the real estate signage.

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.055
However, community laws has no legal

00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:41.976
jurisdiction under the local law to

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.136
direct owners to remove fencing or to

00:49:44.160 --> 00:49:47.016
improve the aesthetics of a fence.

00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:48.616
Committee laws has however given the

00:49:48.640 --> 00:49:50.216
real estate agent a direction to have

00:49:50.240 --> 00:49:52.136
the board removed as it has been placed

00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:55.095
there without a local law permit. And

00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.696
with regards to the graffiti on the

00:49:56.720 --> 00:49:59.176
fence line at 2761 Turner Road, council

00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:01.176
has limited ability to address this when

00:50:01.200 --> 00:50:03.736
it is located on private property as it

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:05.416
does not trigger provisions within the

00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.976
amenity local law. That said, the

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.656
property owner was made aware of

00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:11.416
community concerns and officers have

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.616
been working with them to have the

00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:14.936
fencing cleaned up. The graffiti on the

00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.496
fencing at 276 Turner Road has been

00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:19.016
addressed by the owner and is now

00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:22.040
resolved. Regarding other issues raised

00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:25.016
around overhanging vegetation at 2711

00:50:25.040 --> 00:50:27.176
Turner Road, an officer will attend to

00:50:27.200 --> 00:50:29.095
determine whether a notice to comply can

00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.119
be issued.

00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.335
Thank you, Nola. Our next submitter is

00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:37.575
Mr. Bar who has lodged two questions for

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.256
this evening. Mr. Bar, are you in the

00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:40.936
gallery?

00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.376
Thank you. Would you like to come up to

00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.400
the lectern and I'll read your question

00:50:46.319 --> 00:50:49.319
in relation to the application P2024

00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.776
62633

00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.800
Hicks Court Roville and clause 22.07-4

00:50:57.680 --> 00:51:00.136
Knox neighborhood. Could council please

00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:03.160
explain the reference to 15 Gson Avenue

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.000
Roville as an example to the development

00:51:07.040 --> 00:51:09.815
at three Hicks Court Roville. Mr. Mr.

00:51:09.839 --> 00:51:11.496
Bar, would you like to speak to your

00:51:11.520 --> 00:51:12.776
question?

00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.800
, yes. Thank you. Thank you,  Mayor.

00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:19.575
Um, thank you,  Mayor Kennett, deputy

00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.535
 Mayor, counselors, acting CEO,

00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.456
employees,

00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:26.216
developers, neighbors, friends, and

00:51:26.240 --> 00:51:29.240
general public, previous  Mayor.

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.535
Um

00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.559
my question  is in relation to

00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.376
proposed development  three hicks

00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.696
court page

00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:43.720
20224/6263

00:51:47.040 --> 00:51:49.976
talk to my question now

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.000
although the proposed plan P/20246263

00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:59.240
meets the provisions of clause 55 5 and

00:51:59.839 --> 00:52:02.055
is specifically deemed to comply

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.016
provisions clause 55.

00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:06.776
I would like to raise the following

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.800
points of concern.

00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.920
I believe 15 GS Avenue which is actually

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.000
15 to 17 being a dual block

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.880
has been used as there are no other

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.079
similar developments in a court let

00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.000
alone a court of a court location

00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.280
within the Silkwood and Palms estate

00:52:35.680 --> 00:52:38.055
area

00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.079
or the immediate surrounding areas.

00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.960
Remaining examples listed under 22.07-4

00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:51.240
examples variation sort are all outside

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.295
the perimeter

00:52:54.319 --> 00:52:57.319
of Wellington Road, Kallet Road,

00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.440
Napoleon Road, and Stud Road.

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.376
Again, there are no developments of this

00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.400
nature within our area.

00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.575
22.07-4

00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:14.599
states, "Nox neighborhood, Knox

00:53:14.640 --> 00:53:17.640
neighborhood areas offer a sense of open

00:53:17.680 --> 00:53:20.680
space, fresh air, trees, and large

00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.656
backyards

00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:26.376
to which all the incumbent dwellings

00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:29.400
within Hicks, Cavanar, and surrounding

00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.760
courts adhere to."

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.280
As a comparison to the example of 15- 17

00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:40.856
Jammerson Avenue,

00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.416
I will give you some facts.

00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.815
I'll just remind you, Mr. I'll just

00:53:45.839 --> 00:53:47.656
remind you, Mr. B, you've got 10 seconds

00:53:47.680 --> 00:53:48.856
left for your two minutes.

00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.416
The road width, Jameson Avenue is 8 m

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.440
wide. Hicks Court is 6 m wide. The land

00:53:54.720 --> 00:53:57.720
size of Jameson Avenue is 1,483

00:53:58.319 --> 00:54:01.319
m squared as opposed to 1,376,

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.119
a 107 m difference. Land parcel Jameson

00:54:06.640 --> 00:54:09.496
is a rectangle block. Hicks court is an

00:54:09.520 --> 00:54:11.815
oddshaped block. There are two driveway

00:54:11.839 --> 00:54:14.535
entrances at Jamson. There is one at

00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:15.256
Hicks.

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.016
I'm sorry, Mr. Bar. I'm going to have to

00:54:17.040 --> 00:54:18.936
interrupt you there. Your time has

00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:20.936
expired, but you will have time another

00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:22.616
two minutes to speak to your next

00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:24.055
question. Thank you. At

00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:25.896
the moment I will direct your question

00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.920
to director Ward.

00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:35.815
Thanks Mr. Bar. Um

00:54:35.839 --> 00:54:38.535
the reference to 15 Jameson Avenue was

00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.856
put forward in information supplied by

00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.416
the applicant to justify the proposal

00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.896
against clause 2207.07-4

00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:48.696
07-4 of the planning scheme and that was

00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:50.776
as part of the advertising documents

00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.736
during the public notification period.

00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:56.376
Um as noted in the officer report um

00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.400
section 3.1 of attachment one, the

00:54:59.520 --> 00:55:01.736
application was amended on the 27th of

00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.896
August 2025

00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.815
which means the application is assessed

00:55:05.839 --> 00:55:08.616
against the new townhouse and lowrise

00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:10.696
code. This means that a number of the

00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:12.295
planning scheme provisions such as

00:55:12.319 --> 00:55:14.856
clause cause 22074 are no longer

00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.815
relevant to the assessment. Um, however,

00:55:17.839 --> 00:55:19.976
officers note that the comparison to 15

00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.456
JSON Avenue was not considered by

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.456
officers as part of the report on the

00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.295
proposal considered at um to be

00:55:26.319 --> 00:55:28.456
considered at tonight's council meeting.

00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.295
Um, and I can confirm that the

00:55:30.319 --> 00:55:32.856
development at 15 GSON Avenue has had no

00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.535
impact on the assessment or the

00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.559
recommendation for this application.

00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:43.176
Thank you, Director Ward. Mr. Bar, I'll

00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:46.055
now read your second question. Could

00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.079
council please explain clause 16.1.

00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:53.240
Sorry, I I'll rephrase 16.01-1s,

00:55:55.839 --> 00:55:58.775
housing supply. Could you please outline

00:55:58.799 --> 00:56:01.575
the agenda and contribution toward your

00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.656
targeted number for this proposed

00:56:03.680 --> 00:56:05.896
development? Mr. Bar, would you like to

00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.055
speak to your question? Yes, ma'am. I'll

00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:09.575
remind you you have 2 minutes.

00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:10.936
Thank you. I'll talk faster.

00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:12.216
Thank you.

00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:14.616
The Nox development plan having a target

00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:17.640
to establish 43,000 dwellings between

00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:21.319
2025 and 2026. 2025 2026 to 201

00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.480
equaling approximately 1,680

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.376
dwellings peranom with the current

00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.016
number of dwellings at 62,000 in the

00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:35.575
city of Knox or municipality of Knox

00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.599
with 58,000 being residential as a

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.936
percentage of the contributing number

00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:43.575
for the proposed Hickscourt development

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.599
toward your 20143,000

00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.616
dwelling target works out to an

00:56:50.640 --> 00:56:53.640
approximate of 0.0093

00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.496
based on four

00:56:57.520 --> 00:57:00.520
houses/ dwellings or 0.69

00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:06.040
based on three dwellings. This is less

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.480
than 1% contribution toward your 201

00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.079
target. Given the contribution as a p

00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.736
percentage is so low, I thought there

00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:17.896
would be a higher level of consideration

00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.856
given to your ex existing constituents

00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.416
and rate payers. The concern and

00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:25.736
uncertainty as to the impact from the

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.535
development of our once safe, secure,

00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.416
quiet, and peaceful location could be

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.256
lost forever.

00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.280
Clause 11.02-1 02-1 settlement page 8 I

00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.535
reference to a statement within the

00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:42.456
submitted plans. The submitted plan

00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:44.216
clearly states as follows that

00:57:44.240 --> 00:57:47.240
development of three I repeat three

00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:51.575
additional double doublestory dwellings

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.295
will contribute to providing housing to

00:57:54.319 --> 00:57:56.535
meet the demand within the municipality

00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.559
of Knox. Again, the contribution toward

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.000
the housing forecast demand is to the

00:58:03.359 --> 00:58:06.359
tune of less than 1%. Your growth is not

00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:08.775
coming from developments like the

00:58:08.799 --> 00:58:11.575
proposed development at Hicks Court. Of

00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.136
more concern is the error with print

00:58:14.160 --> 00:58:17.160
within the plan on page 8 as I am by no

00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:19.736
means an export expert nor a

00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.535
proofreader. for an error of this nature

00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.256
to be picked s to be picked certainly

00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:26.856
makes your question are there more

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:28.775
errors within the submitted plan

00:58:28.799 --> 00:58:31.575
Mr. Bar you're you're now at time

00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:32.136
thank you

00:58:32.160 --> 00:58:32.535
thank you

00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:35.559
thank you may

00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.095
 can we move for an extension Mr.

00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.119
Darling

00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:45.640
bear with us just for a moment

00:58:45.680 --> 00:58:47.095
Mr. far. We're just looking at the

00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:48.616
governance rules to see if we can

00:58:48.640 --> 00:58:50.936
provide you with an extension.

00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.960
Please bear with us.

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.216
All right. , thank you for bearing

01:00:24.240 --> 01:00:25.416
with us while we just check the

01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.815
governance rules. , unfortunately, Mr.

01:00:27.839 --> 01:00:30.216
Bar, I'm sorry there's no , extension

01:00:30.240 --> 01:00:32.216
possible under the governance rules, but

01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.055
we do have your question and I'll now

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.079
direct that to acting director , Ward.

01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.656
Thank you.

01:00:39.680 --> 01:00:42.680
 thanks again Mr. Bar. Um clause

01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.095
16.01-1s

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.095
which is the housing supply clause in

01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:48.856
the scheme seeks to facilitate

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:50.936
well-located integrated and diverse

01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.896
housing that meets community needs. The

01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.736
clause has a number of strategies to

01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.575
ensure that the planning scheme can

01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.496
deliver housing against the specified

01:00:59.520 --> 01:01:02.055
targets as you noted 43,000 additional

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.535
dwellings in the case of NOX which is

01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:06.936
the state government target. The Knox

01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.575
housing strategy 2015 outlines council's

01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:11.335
approach to providing additional housing

01:01:11.359 --> 01:01:13.575
in Knox whilst respecting Knox's unique

01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.896
character. Progress in providing

01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:17.815
additional housing is regularly provided

01:01:17.839 --> 01:01:19.736
to council via housing monitoring

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.216
program annual report.

01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:24.136
The latest report can be accessed in the

01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:25.496
agenda and the minutes of the council

01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:28.520
meeting on the 23rd of June 2025 or in

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:30.535
the residential development reports page

01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:33.559
of the NOX website. Um noting your

01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:35.575
concerns though clearly the application

01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.599
at three Hicks Court um Roville um if

01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:41.095
approved would contribute to achieving

01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:44.119
the housing target um alongside u many

01:01:44.319 --> 01:01:45.976
of the other applications that council

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.656
considers over the course of a normal

01:01:47.680 --> 01:01:50.456
year.

01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.616
Thank you Director Bar and thank you 

01:01:52.640 --> 01:01:55.575
sorry director Ward thank you and Mr.

01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:57.016
Bar thank you very much for your

01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:59.736
question. I'll  in accordance with our

01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.295
procedural motion earlier, I'll now move

01:02:02.319 --> 01:02:05.319
to item 6.33 Hicks court approval. Would

01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.896
a counselor like to move a motion?

01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.736
I move the recommendation.

01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.575
Thank you, Councelor Lockwood. Do I have

01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.656
a seconder?

01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:15.896
I move the motion for discussion.

01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:18.696
Thank you, Councelor Pearce. Councelor

01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:20.696
Lockwood, as mover, would you like to

01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:21.176
speak?

01:02:21.200 --> 01:02:23.575
I would. Um,

01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.376
I know one of received a few emails and

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.400
and the predominant concern has been

01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:33.079
parking and traffic. Um, the parking is

01:02:33.359 --> 01:02:35.016
not much we can do about because that's

01:02:35.040 --> 01:02:37.736
governed by state rules. Um, I'd love to

01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.295
have more parking on on blocks, housing

01:02:40.319 --> 01:02:42.775
blocks, but  there are there are state

01:02:42.799 --> 01:02:44.936
rules that prevent that. Um, this

01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.575
development complies everywhere it needs

01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:50.599
to comply. Um it it's

01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:54.200
above the minimum lot size. Um it's it's

01:02:54.240 --> 01:02:55.575
four dwellings. I know you don't like

01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:58.216
four, you prefer less, but um it

01:02:58.240 --> 01:02:59.896
complies with the planning scheme as it

01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:02.616
sits today.  don't forget it was

01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:05.176
amended not so long ago um to cake out

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:06.856
some of our considerations like

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.416
neighborhood and  and that's where we

01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.736
sit um with the new planning rules and

01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:14.760
this this um application absolutely

01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.256
complies. Now we could if we if we were

01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.176
to knock it back we end up would be

01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:21.575
appealed going to VCAT. Um that would

01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.376
cost us money. We would lose course

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:25.896
there's no real grounds really for

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.055
appealing for for knocking this back.

01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.079
I'm not sure we could invent some but um

01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.015
we would lose that. We'd be wasting rate

01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:34.936
payers money fighting something we can't

01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.960
win. Um the target that target really I

01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.815
think it's 43,000 new additional

01:03:41.839 --> 01:03:43.256
dwellings. I think that's quite

01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.736
unrealistic. be I'm not sure we'd ever

01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:48.216
achieve that. That's quite a big number

01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:50.775
um for more houses by 20 more homes by

01:03:50.799 --> 01:03:53.799
2050. Um but anyway, that is what it is.

01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:55.976
We've got that target and that's our

01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.696
planning scheme. And as much as I know

01:03:58.720 --> 01:04:00.696
you're concerned about this,  I don't

01:04:00.720 --> 01:04:03.575
think there's anything we can do to to

01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.496
prevent this development going ahead.

01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:07.095
All we can do is delay it. We can't

01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.256
prevent it. Thank you.

01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.015
Thank you, Councelor Lquick. Councelor

01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:12.775
Pearce, a seconder, would you like to

01:04:12.799 --> 01:04:15.095
speak? Yes, I would. Madame  Mayor, I've

01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.176
got a number of questions. Can I ask,

01:04:17.200 --> 01:04:20.200
please? Um, the first question, are

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:21.736
there any conditions that are not

01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.295
complied with under this proposal?

01:04:24.319 --> 01:04:27.319
Thank you. I'll direct that question to

01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:29.575
 Director Ward.

01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:30.616
Yes. Thank you.

01:04:30.640 --> 01:04:33.640
Um through you,  Mayor Ket. No, there's

01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.760
not.

01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.119
Councelor Pets.

01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:47.976
Turn it on. Now I can. My second

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.055
question is what happens if the

01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:51.896
landscaping and and storm water

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.920
management plan are not approved?

01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.815
I'll direct your question to director

01:04:57.839 --> 01:05:00.839
Ward.

01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.039
um through you,  Mayor Kennett. Um

01:05:05.200 --> 01:05:07.976
if they are not approved, they would um

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:09.736
be delayed somewhat, but there's it

01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:12.760
would not actually um delay the um

01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:16.775
approval of a permit. It's a negotiation

01:05:16.799 --> 01:05:18.535
between council officers and it's just

01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:20.696
generally a a fairly technical

01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:23.416
requirement.

01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.656
Thank you, Director Ward. Council

01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:26.856
Pearce,

01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.095
I'd like to speak to this motion. Go

01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:30.775
ahead.

01:05:30.799 --> 01:05:32.456
On reviewing this report, I've decided

01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.256
to vote against the approval. I'm voting

01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:37.095
against the proposal based on all the

01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:38.936
information at hand, the reports

01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:40.936
received, questions asked about

01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:43.095
concerns, and consultation with my

01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:44.775
residents.

01:05:44.799 --> 01:05:47.799
The residents of Hicks Court, which I

01:05:48.640 --> 01:05:51.015
would say nearly all of them are here,

01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:54.039
all seven houses,

01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:55.815
have a number of concerns regarding this

01:05:55.839 --> 01:05:57.896
development. These concerns are as

01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.055
follows. Residents are concerned with

01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.496
the fact that the development are for

01:06:01.520 --> 01:06:04.520
four large bedroom homes. These are

01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.599
homes. These are not town houses

01:06:08.720 --> 01:06:11.720
on this block. There is only seven

01:06:11.839 --> 01:06:14.696
houses in this street. So effectively,

01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:16.456
you're increasing the population of this

01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:18.616
court by 50%.

01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:20.616
Over 50%.

01:06:20.640 --> 01:06:22.616
The new buildings are not town houses,

01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:25.640
they're doublestory houses.

01:06:25.839 --> 01:06:28.295
While the block is large, it has a

01:06:28.319 --> 01:06:29.976
unique shape with it being narrow at the

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.936
front, then moving to more a triangular

01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.815
shape midway through.

01:06:35.839 --> 01:06:38.055
So, it is not a normal rectangular

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.856
block.

01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.656
So, it has unique characteristics.

01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:46.680
There also is no other development in

01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:49.176
this section of Roville

01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:52.200
of a development in a court of a court.

01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.496
So it's quite unique.

01:06:57.520 --> 01:06:59.656
The unique nature of the court is very

01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:01.416
is that it's a very short street with a

01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.055
bowl impression at the end. The this

01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.376
means the additional houses now these

01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:09.176
are houses not town houses will have

01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:11.575
more will more likely have more than two

01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:13.896
cars. So I'll end up with more parking

01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.976
on the street

01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.295
or in adjacent course. The additional

01:07:18.319 --> 01:07:20.055
traffic will then have further pressure

01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:22.535
on the additional court

01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:24.295
which the parking problems already

01:07:24.319 --> 01:07:27.319
exist. Existing properties are

01:07:27.359 --> 01:07:30.295
singlestory homes on large blocks. The

01:07:30.319 --> 01:07:31.815
new development means that it is

01:07:31.839 --> 01:07:34.216
doublestory houses at the back will

01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:37.240
overlook previously private backyards of

01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:39.496
residents on either side. The

01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:41.496
development also restricts light in the

01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:44.216
backyards which have previously had no

01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:46.936
restriction. This will result in a loss

01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:49.896
of enjoyment and privacy of these of

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.216
these residents backyards which they've

01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:55.240
had for over 30 years. I do acknowledge

01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.616
that these back windows are what they

01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:00.936
call resioded where they're opaque with

01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.936
a small window up but you can still look

01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.015
through them. I have them myself.

01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:06.535
I'll just let you know you've got 30

01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:07.736
seconds. cancel the piece.

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:08.775
Can I please

01:08:08.799 --> 01:08:11.335
extension? Yeah.

01:08:11.359 --> 01:08:12.535
Okay. So,

01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:14.535
so I've got an extension

01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:15.896
although

01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.920
yes. Okay.  I'll need a mover for that

01:08:19.040 --> 01:08:22.040
motion. Yes, councelor. And a seconder.

01:08:22.480 --> 01:08:25.255
Councelor Williams. Thank you. All those

01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.936
in favor?

01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:28.536
Thank you. That motion is carried. Carry

01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:29.416
on.

01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:31.016
Waste collection is a concern for

01:08:31.040 --> 01:08:32.695
residents in this property. They're

01:08:32.719 --> 01:08:34.135
already having troubles with garbage

01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:37.016
trucks um collecting their bins. The

01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:39.175
residents have tried to ease this with

01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:40.695
the existing waste collection by

01:08:40.719 --> 01:08:42.936
grouping their bins together in one area

01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.655
as the trucks have problems turning in

01:08:45.679 --> 01:08:48.376
the court. They concerned that this

01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:50.056
could be exacerbated with additional

01:08:50.080 --> 01:08:52.456
garbage bins. Now these are not normal

01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:55.016
domestic bin sizes. These are large

01:08:55.040 --> 01:08:58.040
commercial communal bins

01:08:58.480 --> 01:09:00.295
that will be collected by a private

01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.775
waste command  company which means

01:09:02.799 --> 01:09:05.799
there'll be more parking spaces taken up

01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.936
by the large bins and also an additional

01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:11.960
trucks into the area. The new

01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.215
development

01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.856
 sorry I just missed my place. I

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.496
understand that the recent changes to

01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.255
the building act act and the

01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:23.655
introduction of clause 55 townhouse and

01:09:23.679 --> 01:09:26.295
low growth cord of the develop complies

01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:28.135
with the regulations. However, the state

01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:29.896
government had a to blame for these

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.215
changes and their push to remove

01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.135
council's discretion to listen to our

01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:37.159
residents and to act on their concerns.

01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.056
inevitably pushing the accommodating

01:09:40.080 --> 01:09:43.080
53,000 homes into Knox means that our

01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.655
residents have no say in the area they

01:09:45.679 --> 01:09:48.135
live in. The state government appears to

01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.376
be happy to turn our beautiful suburb of

01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:53.335
Roville being the parasent of Knox into

01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.816
an overcrowded ghetto and without

01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.376
considering the people in our area.

01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:01.400
Thank you.

01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.135
Thank you councelor Pearce.

01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:05.976
Does any other council wish to speak to

01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.215
this motion?

01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:09.976
Yes, councelor Williams. 

01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.135
through you,  Mayor. I'd actually like to

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.536
ask a couple of questions. Um my first

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.776
question is um on page 35 of our

01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.800
document  attachment one, clause six,

01:10:20.320 --> 01:10:21.896
 under conclusion, it's actually got

01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:23.736
here, objections have been received.

01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.816
However, appeal rights are not provided

01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:27.655
pursuant to clause 55 and a planning

01:10:27.679 --> 01:10:30.215
permit must be issued subject um to

01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.096
conditions. Just for clarity for for us

01:10:33.120 --> 01:10:36.120
and also for the chamber, can we clarify

01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:39.400
what we mean by no appeal rights? Um,

01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:41.416
and what that what those options might

01:10:41.440 --> 01:10:43.655
be should people want to proceed from

01:10:43.679 --> 01:10:45.016
here.

01:10:45.040 --> 01:10:46.456
Thank you, Councelor Williams. I'll

01:10:46.480 --> 01:10:49.096
direct your question to acting CEO Mr.

01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:51.016
Caler.

01:10:51.040 --> 01:10:52.856
Through you, Madame  Mayor. So, I'm just

01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:54.856
answering this on on behalf of um

01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.496
Director Ward. So, as soon as the um

01:10:57.520 --> 01:10:59.096
application was amended and it became

01:10:59.120 --> 01:11:00.776
eligible for the townhouse and low-rise

01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.416
code, um it's now in a space where the

01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:06.296
state government requirements now apply.

01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:08.056
So, the state government um for these

01:11:08.080 --> 01:11:09.655
types of applications still requires

01:11:09.679 --> 01:11:11.416
notice, but they've removed third party

01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:13.736
appeal rights with VCAT. So, there is no

01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.760
appeal avenue whatsoever.

01:11:19.040 --> 01:11:21.416
Thank you, Councelor Williams.

01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:24.440
Thank you for the answer.  and  I

01:11:24.480 --> 01:11:25.655
guess that sort of leads me on to my

01:11:25.679 --> 01:11:27.175
next question which you've probably

01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:29.976
almost answered but taking it based on

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.655
what what we're being presented with

01:11:31.679 --> 01:11:34.679
tonight. There is no grounds for any

01:11:34.719 --> 01:11:37.576
refusal based on what we're seeing and

01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.336
even going to VCAT our chances of

01:11:39.360 --> 01:11:42.360
winning are extremely slim.

01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:45.655
I'll direct your question again to

01:11:45.679 --> 01:11:48.056
acting CEO Keller.

01:11:48.080 --> 01:11:50.456
through you madam  Mayor. Um that's

01:11:50.480 --> 01:11:52.856
right. The any grounds to go to VCAP

01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.496
would be quite negligible and as I think

01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.096
one of the council has talked about it

01:11:57.120 --> 01:11:59.096
earlier the actual case for success

01:11:59.120 --> 01:12:01.496
would be incredibly negligible.

01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:02.936
That's that's the way these provisions

01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.960
have been designed.

01:12:06.400 --> 01:12:08.215
Thank you. Councelor Williams, would you

01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.456
like to speak to the motion?

01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:13.096
 no look further to that. I mean it it

01:12:13.120 --> 01:12:15.416
does sort of um tie our hands to a

01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:17.416
decision unfortunately and that is that

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:19.736
there's there's probably no viability in

01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.760
us rejecting this application based on

01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:25.736
 the facts that I've just asked. 

01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.760
hence why asking that question um sadly

01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:32.456
for the residents of the the court um

01:12:32.480 --> 01:12:34.776
the state government has obviously

01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.496
inflicted a change to the the rules that

01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:40.520
we abide by. Um so therefore  I'd be

01:12:41.679 --> 01:12:43.016
probably redirecting some of these

01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:44.376
questions to the state government based

01:12:44.400 --> 01:12:45.816
on that. I don't think it's a local

01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.215
government issue we've been pushed on to

01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:49.816
um making a lot of these changes which

01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:51.976
may or may not be fair in the eyes of

01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.936
both us and or um the residents. But it

01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.096
sounds like our decision is pretty much

01:12:57.120 --> 01:13:00.120
that we have to um allow this to proceed

01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:02.056
otherwise it's going to be a costly

01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:05.080
expense to cancel  and therefore sadly

01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:08.760
um it will become a waste of Ray Pay's

01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:10.456
money in that we're not going to have an

01:13:10.480 --> 01:13:13.480
outcome that we're going to win. So, um,

01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:15.576
as as sad as I feel for the residents in

01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.336
the area, and I visited, , the

01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:20.360
residents  yesterday, um, I think

01:13:21.040 --> 01:13:22.536
you've answered my questions in terms of

01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:24.936
there's nowhere really from from here

01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.960
apart from having to approve it. So,

01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.576
thank you, Councelor Williams. Is there

01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.256
any other counselor that would wish to

01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:36.056
speak? Yes, Councelor Duncan.

01:13:36.080 --> 01:13:38.135
Um, yes, I'd like to thank you, um,

01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:39.416
Councelor Pearce. It is a very

01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:41.416
disappointing situation that the  the

01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:43.336
powers have been removed from us to make

01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:44.936
discretionary

01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.175
 approvals. Um and some things that

01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:48.856
the residents may not be aware of that

01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.816
the the high-rise sorry the the

01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:53.976
townhouse and lowrise code doesn't

01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:55.336
actually refer to the style of

01:13:55.360 --> 01:13:58.360
townhouse. It's the name of it. So small

01:13:58.480 --> 01:14:01.480
developments of houses will comply. Um

01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.976
the design requirements under clause 55

01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.056
if they have all been met within the

01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:07.816
planning scheme then we have no choice

01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.296
but to issue the permit council actually

01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:12.856
act on with on behalf of and within the

01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.016
guidelines that the state sets. So we

01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:16.616
actually have no discretionary powers

01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:18.776
with respect to this. So because it

01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:20.695
complies we actually don't have a choice

01:14:20.719 --> 01:14:23.655
but to uphold or or approve a planning

01:14:23.679 --> 01:14:26.679
permit. Um what I would say though is

01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:29.256
we can we can approve it but we can put

01:14:29.280 --> 01:14:31.096
conditions on it. What we can't do is

01:14:31.120 --> 01:14:33.096
say it needs to drop from four to three

01:14:33.120 --> 01:14:34.856
etc. We can put landscaping provisions

01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:37.256
and so forth on there which might 

01:14:37.280 --> 01:14:39.096
have a better outcome for you from an

01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:41.175
amenity perspective. Um but

01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:42.776
unfortunately this is one of the things

01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:44.135
we're we're dealing with with the new

01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:46.376
code. We had the similar thing with 276.

01:14:46.400 --> 01:14:48.135
However, we successfully argued that one

01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:50.456
because the design was not compliant. So

01:14:50.480 --> 01:14:53.016
that gave us the grounds to make changes

01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:55.416
to it. Whereas with this one here, um,

01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:57.096
as as the answers to your questions

01:14:57.120 --> 01:14:59.416
through through the director, um, our

01:14:59.440 --> 01:15:00.695
hands are tied on this one,

01:15:00.719 --> 01:15:03.336
unfortunately. Um, I do really feel for

01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:05.256
you. This is this is setting a precedent

01:15:05.280 --> 01:15:07.655
in that area. Um, and unfortunately,

01:15:07.679 --> 01:15:09.175
this is what the state government are

01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.576
mandating of us. Um, I'd also like to

01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:13.336
reflect on  the question before about

01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:15.016
the small percentage difference that

01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:17.655
this makes. I do understand it's only a

01:15:17.679 --> 01:15:19.576
tiny difference, but every little

01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:20.936
difference matters, especially when

01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.215
we're talking about climate change and

01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:23.416
so forth.

01:15:23.440 --> 01:15:25.416
Unfortunately, it does comply. So, our

01:15:25.440 --> 01:15:27.175
hands are tied. Otherwise, we will be

01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:28.856
basically throwing away rate payers

01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:31.816
money on a frivolous VCAT  case with

01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:34.616
no grounds to defend ourselves. So, I I

01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:35.896
will be supporting the office's

01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.215
recommendations. Um, as much as it

01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:39.816
breaks my heart that we're losing the

01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:41.976
character of, as you said, the Paris end

01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.000
of Knox Council appears, um, we we have

01:15:45.679 --> 01:15:48.376
no discretionary powers in this in this

01:15:48.400 --> 01:15:51.400
um case. So, sorry about that.

01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:56.695
Thank you, councelor Duncan. Does any

01:15:56.719 --> 01:15:58.936
other counselor wish to speak?

01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.936
Yes, councelor Agwell.

01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:02.936
, thank you, Councelor Kennett. And,

01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.736
, I concur with um a lot of what's

01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:08.215
been said. Um,

01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:10.456
, and I I appreciate the attendance of

01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:13.096
of the residents here tonight and, um,

01:16:13.120 --> 01:16:15.016
the asking of questions and I

01:16:15.040 --> 01:16:16.936
appreciate, , Councelor Pearce's ,

01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:18.776
advocacy and and work on this ,

01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:21.800
planning application for some time. um

01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.776
the the rules have changed um and the

01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.175
controls that were in place um that

01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.199
would give us grounds  to refuse or to

01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:33.336
send this to VCAT with a refusal have

01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:36.360
been have been scrapped. Um, and if if

01:16:37.040 --> 01:16:38.536
overdevelopment and neighborhood

01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:40.936
character could be considered under the

01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.576
new clause 55, then um I would

01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.600
absolutely be standing with you to um to

01:16:46.719 --> 01:16:49.016
to refuse this and to chance our armit

01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:51.655
VCAP because I think um if that were in

01:16:51.679 --> 01:16:53.416
play, I think the points that have been

01:16:53.440 --> 01:16:56.440
raised um are very are very relevant and

01:16:57.040 --> 01:17:00.040
 and spot on. Um unfortunately what

01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:02.376
we've been reduced to are you know is a

01:17:02.400 --> 01:17:04.616
list of tick boxes  around compliance

01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:07.640
with clause 55 setback height rear and

01:17:08.080 --> 01:17:10.056
side setbacks walls on boundary site

01:17:10.080 --> 01:17:12.296
coverage and um it literally is a box

01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:15.320
ticking exercise for council. Um there

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.655
was a minor variation with around the

01:17:17.679 --> 01:17:20.616
parking  and the location which has

01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:23.256
been deemed um to comply and acceptable

01:17:23.280 --> 01:17:25.096
with some double glazing treatment um

01:17:25.120 --> 01:17:27.256
within a certain distance. So that's

01:17:27.280 --> 01:17:29.736
certainly not enough um to venture to

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.456
VCAT. And you know, my fear is is if we

01:17:32.480 --> 01:17:35.416
were to refuse this and go to VCAT, we

01:17:35.440 --> 01:17:37.896
put at risk um there's nothing to stop

01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:39.896
the applicant potentially asking for

01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.920
more or um seeking to um you know, walk

01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.760
back some of the small um um gains and

01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.600
provisions um and and very small um 

01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:52.856
give and takes that we've been able to

01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:54.695
achieve through the the process to date.

01:17:54.719 --> 01:17:57.576
So, um, and as a council, I think, yeah,

01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:59.816
we've talked about our our limited

01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.695
resources and and when we refuse and

01:18:02.719 --> 01:18:04.616
when we think we're going to need to,

01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:06.616
um, stump up at VCAT that we we're

01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:07.896
making sure we do that when we give

01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:09.496
ourselves the best chance of success.

01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:12.520
So, um, I hear you. I, you know, from a

01:18:13.280 --> 01:18:15.096
neighborhood character, um, over

01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:17.576
development perspective, I completely

01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.175
, agree and appreciate the

01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.016
correspondence that's been sent , in a

01:18:21.040 --> 01:18:23.096
very considered and reasonable way. I

01:18:23.120 --> 01:18:25.336
also apprec app appreciate that. But as

01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:27.896
it stands with the um with the rules and

01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:29.896
controls that the state government has

01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.695
imposed on council in considering this

01:18:32.719 --> 01:18:35.096
um I don't want to lead you  down a

01:18:35.120 --> 01:18:37.256
garden path of false expectation and

01:18:37.280 --> 01:18:39.256
hope because I think um our chances are

01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:41.736
negligible at VCAT. So um I'll be very

01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.760
reluctantly u supporting this but um I

01:18:45.040 --> 01:18:47.336
appreciate the engagement um and as I

01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:49.175
said the work of councelor Pearce in

01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:50.856
representing the resident's views

01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:53.016
tonight.

01:18:53.040 --> 01:18:54.616
Thank you, councelor Atwell. Would any

01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:56.056
other counselor like to speak? Yes,

01:18:56.080 --> 01:18:57.016
councelor Baker.

01:18:57.040 --> 01:18:59.736
Thank you. Just very briefly. Um and I

01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:01.336
concur with the comments that have

01:19:01.360 --> 01:19:03.816
already been made and councelor Pearce

01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.695
for for speaking up for your community.

01:19:06.719 --> 01:19:09.175
Um and I also hear the residents.

01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:11.736
They're here tonight in our chamber. You

01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:13.655
know, I hear it's a disappointment to

01:19:13.679 --> 01:19:16.215
sit here and and have to listen to the

01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:19.239
rationale. um you know where our

01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.000
regulations have now changed um so I

01:19:23.280 --> 01:19:24.856
appreciate the frustration that our

01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:27.175
residents have come here to share their

01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.199
concern um and then to hear our our end

01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.096
of it as well. So, you know, any other

01:19:33.120 --> 01:19:34.856
time, you know, you'd sit there and you

01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:36.215
you would think, you know, the

01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.376
rejection, but what concerns me is that

01:19:38.400 --> 01:19:41.400
if we say no to this, um, again, false

01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.536
hope that, you know, what's the outcome?

01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:47.560
Um, it doesn't sound very promising. So,

01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:50.616
I acknowledge the concerns, but I also

01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:52.296
acknowledge the constraints that we are

01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:54.376
in that have been put on councils now

01:19:54.400 --> 01:19:57.400
with planning applications. Thank you.

01:19:59.040 --> 01:20:00.536
Thank you, Councelor Baker. Would any

01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.560
other council like to speak?

01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:06.376
No. I'd just like to thank you councelor

01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:08.936
Pearce for calling this item up um as

01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:11.960
disappointing as it is um and the nature

01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:15.576
in which we  aren't able to make

01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:17.816
changes to this item. I also want to

01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:19.496
acknowledge residents for bringing this

01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:22.456
to us um

01:20:22.480 --> 01:20:25.480
and for officers for um answering the

01:20:26.480 --> 01:20:27.896
questions that have been raised by

01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:29.816
counselors tonight. I think counselors

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.536
have explained the situation quite well.

01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.616
Um, we are all disheartened that we

01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.936
can't support you in the way that you

01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:39.960
have requested of us. Um, yeah. So, I'm

01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:43.576
I'm very sorry, but thank you for coming

01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.256
in tonight and bringing this to our

01:20:45.280 --> 01:20:48.135
attention. I'll now put the motion. All

01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:51.159
those in favor?

01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.456
Sorry, Council Lockwood, would you like

01:20:54.480 --> 01:20:57.480
a right of reply?

01:20:58.400 --> 01:21:01.336
Um just point out that  planning runs

01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:03.416
under the planning and environment act

01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:05.576
 an act of state parliament and our

01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:06.936
local planning scheme and the state

01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.776
planning scheme are all subordinate

01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:10.056
legislation to the planning and

01:21:10.080 --> 01:21:12.296
environment act and those those schemes

01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:13.816
change from time to time. They have

01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.976
we've initiated changes ourselves but

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:19.000
the latest changes are are designed to

01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:21.496
speed up approvals to get more housing

01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.416
built. I'm not sure it's quite the right

01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:25.655
approach but anyway that's where we are.

01:21:25.679 --> 01:21:27.816
We've got these tick and flick type

01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:29.736
rules now for for simple developments,

01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:31.496
relatively simple developments, and

01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:33.416
that's where we find ourselves. So, I

01:21:33.440 --> 01:21:35.096
just wanted to pick up the point of a

01:21:35.120 --> 01:21:37.096
ghetto. Now, we're in Knox is going to

01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:40.120
be a ghetto. Knox is still Nox. Um, so I

01:21:41.280 --> 01:21:43.655
would I would push back on that one one

01:21:43.679 --> 01:21:45.816
little word description. And as you must

01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.056
know its origin, a ghetto was the area

01:21:48.080 --> 01:21:51.080
outside all cities where Jewish people

01:21:51.440 --> 01:21:52.936
lived. And that was always that was the

01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:54.615
name for it. It wasn't a bad name.

01:21:54.639 --> 01:21:56.456
wasn't porative. It was just the name

01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:59.480
where Jewish people lived. It became 

01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:01.896
into modern usage during World War II

01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:04.920
when um Hitler surrounded the ghettos

01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:08.135
and caused a great deal of suffering. So

01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.456
then that usage of the word morphed into

01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:13.480
what we have today of a bad area. So um

01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:16.215
and having taken up enough time, I will

01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.615
leave it at that.

01:22:18.639 --> 01:22:20.536
Thank you, Councelor Lockwood. I'll now

01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:23.560
put the motion. All those in favor?

01:22:26.080 --> 01:22:28.536
All those opposed.

01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.215
Can I call?

01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:33.239
Yes.

01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:36.440
I now need to set that motion aside.

01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:39.336
I'll call the motion again. All those in

01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:42.215
favor? Councelor

01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.135
Williams, Councelor, Councelor

01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.536
Considine, Councelor Kennett, Councelor

01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:48.856
Lockwood, Councelor Duncan, Councelor

01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.816
Cooper, Councelor Baker.

01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:54.840
All those opposed. Councelor Pearce. I

01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.296
declare that motion carried.

01:22:58.320 --> 01:23:00.695
Thank you. Councilors, if we've been

01:23:00.719 --> 01:23:02.695
going just over an hour now, I'd like to

01:23:02.719 --> 01:23:05.496
propose a brief 10-minute adjournment.

01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:07.016
Would council like to move an ajournment

01:23:07.040 --> 01:23:08.856
motion? Thank you, councelor Williams.

01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.576
Thank you, Councelor Pearce.

01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:14.600
We'll return at 8:40. Oh, sorry. And all

01:23:15.040 --> 01:23:18.040
those in favor? Yes. Thank you. We will

01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.800
return at 8:40.

01:23:23.280 --> 01:23:26.280
Thank you, councilors and officers.

01:23:26.639 --> 01:23:29.256
Moving on to our next item, item 8.1,

01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:32.135
your library annual report 2425. Would a

01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:34.776
counselor like to move a motion?

01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.655
With the recommendation, may pay. Thank

01:23:37.679 --> 01:23:39.256
you, councelor Lockwood. Is there a

01:23:39.280 --> 01:23:40.456
second for the motion? Thank you,

01:23:40.480 --> 01:23:43.480
councelor Pearce. Councelor Lockwood.

01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.376
Oh, thank you. Yes. , councelor Baker

01:23:48.400 --> 01:23:50.776
as second. Thank you. Councelor Lockwood

01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:52.376
as mover. Would you like to speak?

01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:55.096
I would. Thank you. So, look forward to

01:23:55.120 --> 01:23:57.576
a library board restarting and like to

01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.496
acknowledge councelor Baker for her

01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:01.576
participation on the board this year.

01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.600
Um, very capable contributions um to the

01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.016
board discussions.  took a little

01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:08.856
getting used to the new format, but 

01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:11.880
there we were um paddling through it. So

01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:13.976
yeah, I I thank Councelor Baker for her

01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.615
work. I'm acknowledged too that the CEO

01:24:16.639 --> 01:24:18.936
Karina um who's doing a great job

01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:20.376
pulling it all together.  the

01:24:20.400 --> 01:24:22.615
finances, the library, your library

01:24:22.639 --> 01:24:25.639
limited um very tight as you can

01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:27.976
understand, but manageable. Um we get

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.376
through that  with success. Now the

01:24:30.400 --> 01:24:33.016
libraries in Knox are a great success as

01:24:33.040 --> 01:24:35.175
well as across across the region because

01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:38.056
we run across three council areas but so

01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:39.736
many such huge as you know a huge

01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:41.655
increase in members huge increase in

01:24:41.679 --> 01:24:43.576
visits because we have our brand new

01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:45.576
Bazewater Library in the beautiful

01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.600
Dinsdale ward um which is going gang

01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.175
busters as well um lots of people in

01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.256
there and it's it's it's being really

01:24:53.280 --> 01:24:55.896
successful. So your library limited just

01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:57.816
a bit about it. It's a limited liability

01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:00.695
company. Um the councils three councils

01:25:00.719 --> 01:25:02.936
are the shareholders. They have a share

01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:05.960
each. Um it's a beneficial enterprise

01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:09.560
that is a charity.  and it runs under

01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:12.215
federal legislation corporations law

01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:14.376
rather than the local government act. So

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:15.736
it has that different corporate

01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.215
responsibility but is still responsible

01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:19.896
to it shareholders in the three

01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.536
councils. So I throw that in. Now the

01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.776
library is is still being great.  in

01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:26.936
Knox we have our five libraries plus

01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.816
Miller's Homestead um which runs as as

01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:31.736
an agency at the moment in a manner of

01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:34.760
speaking. Um and they're all they're all

01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:36.695
well needed. I mean our libraries are

01:25:36.719 --> 01:25:39.336
well used very well used and and are

01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:41.655
greatly needed by the people who are

01:25:41.679 --> 01:25:43.096
doing it tough at the moment. I mean,

01:25:43.120 --> 01:25:44.936
use for everybody, but particularly

01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.695
people doing it tough who can get access

01:25:46.719 --> 01:25:49.576
to free Wi-Fi so they can apply for jobs

01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.175
and people even looking for somewhere to

01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.736
rent. Um, so it's and it's a refuge, a

01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.056
safe refuge for people um where they

01:25:56.080 --> 01:25:57.496
might not have anywhere safe to go

01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:00.520
during the day. So our libraries form a

01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:03.096
a number of functions as well as

01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:04.376
providing information. Of course, it's

01:26:04.400 --> 01:26:06.135
not all about books. Only half the usage

01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:08.615
is books. The rest of it is online or

01:26:08.639 --> 01:26:10.215
electronic, some form of electronic

01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.376
information. We subscribe to a number of

01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:14.936
large collections around the world. 

01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.960
and we um YL provides free access to

01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:21.336
that. Um although perhaps I could

01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:23.096
mention in passing that the Library of

01:26:23.120 --> 01:26:24.856
Congress is not such a good reference at

01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.416
the moment.  having been a global

01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:30.440
authority has now had anything connected

01:26:30.480 --> 01:26:33.480
to women's health taken out of it,

01:26:33.679 --> 01:26:35.655
anything connected to race taken out of

01:26:35.679 --> 01:26:38.679
it. Um that's that's an international

01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:40.936
library and the current American

01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.336
government has seen fit to emasculate a

01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:44.456
lot of the information out of the

01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:47.256
library. So um libraries now look for

01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:48.536
other sources of that kind of

01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:50.536
information. I think it's tragic

01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:52.695
personally. Um the Library of Congress

01:26:52.719 --> 01:26:54.695
has been renowned for generations as a

01:26:54.719 --> 01:26:56.856
fabulous resource. Anyway, our library

01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.880
will always be a fabulous resource um in

01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.456
the three councils and  anytime

01:27:02.480 --> 01:27:03.896
anybody here wants to meet me up at the

01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:05.256
library to read a book together. I mean,

01:27:05.280 --> 01:27:07.976
you know, to have a chat together. Um,

01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:09.496
just let me know and we'll rock up

01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:11.496
there.

01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:13.256
Thank you, Council Lockwood. Councelor

01:27:13.280 --> 01:27:14.615
Baker is second.

01:27:14.639 --> 01:27:16.296
Thank you. Just very briefly, thank you,

01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:19.320
Council Lockwood  for that summary. Um

01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:21.096
and as you mentioned you know it's

01:27:21.120 --> 01:27:24.056
across south that the your the  your

01:27:24.080 --> 01:27:27.080
library  covers Marinda Yara Rangers

01:27:27.120 --> 01:27:29.175
and obviously Knox  with a combined

01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:31.336
population of just over 440,000

01:27:31.360 --> 01:27:33.896
residents of which 163 of them are NOx

01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:36.296
residents um and obviously to provide

01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:38.856
accessible free services u promoting

01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.016
literacy learning digital inclusion and

01:27:41.040 --> 01:27:43.096
community well-being. um you know the

01:27:43.120 --> 01:27:46.120
figures itself 70,000 new items to its

01:27:47.040 --> 01:27:50.040
collection um an increase of borrowing

01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:52.615
of 2.4% 4% doesn't seem like a lot but

01:27:52.639 --> 01:27:54.376
when you look at the figures that's

01:27:54.400 --> 01:27:55.816
significant and it's obviously a very

01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:58.840
wellused  library across the the three

01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:02.120
s or the three councils. So um thank you

01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:05.400
for the report. Um and as councelor

01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:08.135
Lockwood had pointed out the new

01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:10.536
bazewater library has opened. So if you

01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:11.976
haven't had a chance to check that out

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:15.000
please do. Um a very nice space along

01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:17.736
with our  other libraries that we have

01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.760
in use for a lot of people. So um very

01:28:21.040 --> 01:28:24.040
welcoming of this report um and the the

01:28:24.080 --> 01:28:26.615
the highlights as as outlined. So thank

01:28:26.639 --> 01:28:29.336
you and u I'll be supporting the the

01:28:29.360 --> 01:28:30.936
report. Thank you.

01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:32.615
Thank you councelor Baker. Does any

01:28:32.639 --> 01:28:34.615
other council wish to speak?

01:28:34.639 --> 01:28:36.936
Yes councelor Pearce. Just really

01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:38.695
quickly, I found this a really

01:28:38.719 --> 01:28:39.976
interesting report because looking at

01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.615
the figures end of it, yearon-year

01:28:42.639 --> 01:28:45.639
growth increasing, which is 32% increase

01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.655
in the library use, new members are up

01:28:49.679 --> 01:28:52.679
by 14.2%.

01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:54.936
Physical borrowing has increased with

01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.960
which is against the industry pattern in

01:28:58.480 --> 01:29:00.856
Nox.

01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:02.695
The fact that we have an increased in

01:29:02.719 --> 01:29:05.175
digital borrowing even though and it

01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:07.736
hasn't butchered the inerson borrowing I

01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:10.615
think is extraordinary

01:29:10.639 --> 01:29:12.456
strong innovation

01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:15.480
the loanable laptop program the laptop

01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:18.760
pro program excuse my wording the laptop

01:29:19.040 --> 01:29:22.040
program what a fantastic initiative the

01:29:22.080 --> 01:29:24.695
reading buddies program

01:29:24.719 --> 01:29:26.776
I understand that that there's some

01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:28.456
challenges with some of them in our area

01:29:28.480 --> 01:29:30.536
but these are extraordinary figures

01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.096
These really the our employees should be

01:29:33.120 --> 01:29:35.496
really commended and so should the

01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.816
board. So and I just want to thank

01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:40.376
councelor Megan Baker for her service on

01:29:40.400 --> 01:29:42.376
the library board. I know it's been for

01:29:42.400 --> 01:29:44.376
a while so thank her for that and

01:29:44.400 --> 01:29:46.135
councelor Lockwood for your support but

01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:47.655
I think our libraries are in really

01:29:47.679 --> 01:29:49.496
goodstead for the move forward. Thank

01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:50.776
you.

01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:53.096
Thank you councelor Pearce. Would any

01:29:53.120 --> 01:29:54.776
other counselor like to speak to the

01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.655
motion? Yes, councelor Duncan.

01:29:57.679 --> 01:29:59.256
Um yeah thank you for that councelor

01:29:59.280 --> 01:30:00.536
Pearce. So, I figured you'd come out

01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:02.615
with some of the  statistics. Stole my

01:30:02.639 --> 01:30:04.296
thunder. I'd written down exactly the

01:30:04.320 --> 01:30:05.736
same as what you had, but one that you

01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:07.736
did fail with. It actually works out to

01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.760
be almost 3,000 visits per day, which is

01:30:11.280 --> 01:30:13.336
which is a lot, which I think is

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:15.976
fantastic. Um, also, Councelor Baker,

01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:17.655
your your 12 months on the on the

01:30:17.679 --> 01:30:19.016
library board. Thank you very much for

01:30:19.040 --> 01:30:20.695
that. And I believe councelor Atwell,

01:30:20.719 --> 01:30:23.175
you're stepping into that role moving

01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:24.456
forward. Um, there's some other things

01:30:24.480 --> 01:30:26.536
that the libraries provide for us. Um,

01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:28.695
I've I've actually utilized it myself.

01:30:28.719 --> 01:30:30.215
um meeting rooms that you can book. So

01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:31.816
I've often met with residents in there.

01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.615
It gives a great space for it. Um I

01:30:34.639 --> 01:30:35.976
remember right back at the start,

01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.496
councelor Lockwood, how much you like

01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:39.175
reading and how many books you have,

01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:41.256
etc. And if you recall, I actually spent

01:30:41.280 --> 01:30:42.936
my wedding anniversary going down to the

01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:44.376
library and joining and I've been there

01:30:44.400 --> 01:30:47.400
several times since. Um also, Councelor

01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:49.576
Williams, I note that previously you

01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:52.056
read story time at at the library, so

01:30:52.080 --> 01:30:53.976
way braver than I am. I will not be

01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:55.816
taking that up in the near future until

01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:58.296
my public speaking gets much better. Um,

01:30:58.320 --> 01:30:59.736
but yeah, I think it's a fantastic

01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:01.175
report. We absolutely should be

01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.096
supporting our libraries and and again,

01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:04.296
thank you for your year on the board

01:31:04.320 --> 01:31:06.695
there, Councelor Baker.

01:31:06.719 --> 01:31:08.615
Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Would any

01:31:08.639 --> 01:31:11.639
other counselor like to speak?

01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.536
No. , I'd also like to thank councelor

01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:16.135
Baker and councelor Lockwood for their

01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.215
work on the board in the last 12 months.

01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:20.856
Thank you. I'll now put the motion. All

01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.416
those in favor?

01:31:23.440 --> 01:31:26.440
I declare that motion carried.

01:31:26.639 --> 01:31:29.576
, moving on to item 8.2, review and

01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:32.056
update of the Knox parking policy.

01:31:32.080 --> 01:31:33.736
Before I call for a mover and a

01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:35.736
seconder, I note that there is a revised

01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:38.215
officer recommendation to clarify the

01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.016
review cycle

01:31:41.040 --> 01:31:44.040
 which will be popped on the screen

01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:47.400
for councilors.

01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.000
I'll read the amendment for those online

01:31:53.040 --> 01:31:55.096
that council number one endorse the

01:31:55.120 --> 01:31:57.816
draft Nox parking policy attachment one

01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:00.215
for community consultation with the

01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.856
change subject to an amendment to the

01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:05.880
following paragraph as indicated below

01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:07.976
4.2.3.2

01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.000
Two, endorsement. On an annual basis

01:32:11.280 --> 01:32:14.280
inserted, new or revised parking

01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:16.376
management plans will be presented to

01:32:16.400 --> 01:32:17.816
council for consideration and

01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.840
endorsement. Inserted as required and

01:32:21.440 --> 01:32:24.296
then point 2 remains unchanged.

01:32:24.320 --> 01:32:27.320
Would a counselor like to move a motion?

01:32:27.440 --> 01:32:29.496
Thank you, councelor Baker. Is there a

01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.520
second for that motion?

01:32:33.360 --> 01:32:35.576
Thank you, councelor Cooper. Councelor

01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:36.936
Baker as

01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.960
thank you through you Kennett. Um I'm

01:32:40.320 --> 01:32:42.296
supportive of the revised offic's 

01:32:42.320 --> 01:32:45.320
recommendation.  this is a a Nox draft

01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:47.416
policy parking policy that is going out

01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:49.976
for  community consultation which is

01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.456
planned for February of next year 

01:32:52.480 --> 01:32:54.536
with the final endorsements targeted for

01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:57.560
May 2026. Um some of the  policy

01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:03.256
includes refinements to parking zones

01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:05.736
and hierarchy for better clarity. 

01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:07.896
simplifies residential parking permit

01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:09.896
schemes. Removal of additional permits

01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:12.920
and grandfathering of existing

01:33:13.360 --> 01:33:15.976
arrangements.  visitor parking permits

01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.776
for example technology enhancements and

01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.856
updates to support EV charging.

01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:22.456
Sustainability goals and inclusion of

01:33:22.480 --> 01:33:25.480
flexi car parking. So, welcome that the

01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.896
 the residents to please keep an eye

01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.920
on this on the  have your say page for

01:33:31.280 --> 01:33:33.336
when this comes up and invite feedback

01:33:33.360 --> 01:33:35.736
in relation to this policy. Thank you.

01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:37.416
Thank you, councelor Baker. Councelor

01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:39.016
Cooper is second, would you like to

01:33:39.040 --> 01:33:41.336
speak? No. Thank you. Would any other

01:33:41.360 --> 01:33:44.360
counselor like to speak to this motion?

01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:47.416
No. Councelor Baker is mover. Would you

01:33:47.440 --> 01:33:49.736
like your right of reply? Thank you.

01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:51.976
I'll now put the motion. All those in

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:53.816
favor?

01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.615
I declare that motion carried.

01:33:56.639 --> 01:33:59.336
Item 8.3 quarterly performance report

01:33:59.360 --> 01:34:02.360
for the period ended 30 September 2025.

01:34:04.080 --> 01:34:06.135
Officers have request I pass on their

01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:07.976
apologies for an error in the councelor

01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:09.576
expenses in tonight's quarterly

01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:11.576
performance report where councelor

01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.135
Atwell has been incorrectly attributed

01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:16.776
an additional $27

01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:19.416
under performance of the role which does

01:34:19.440 --> 01:34:22.440
not relate to Hatchwin Ward. The error

01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.256
will be reconciled in the next quarterly

01:34:25.280 --> 01:34:28.280
report and having been noted doesn't

01:34:28.480 --> 01:34:30.856
impact the noting of this report this

01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:33.655
evening. Would a council like to move a

01:34:33.679 --> 01:34:34.296
motion?

01:34:34.320 --> 01:34:35.896
Move the recommendation.

01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.056
Thank you councelor Lockwood. Is there a

01:34:38.080 --> 01:34:40.135
second? Thank you councelor Baker.

01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:41.896
Councelor Lockwood.

01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:43.655
 thank you.  this is our quarter

01:34:43.679 --> 01:34:46.456
time report, isn't it? Um and it's a

01:34:46.480 --> 01:34:48.135
health and well-being plan progress

01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:49.816
report for the quarter. The financial

01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:51.496
performance reports for the quarter.

01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:54.376
capital program um progress report and

01:34:54.400 --> 01:34:57.256
the transformation report. So um we're

01:34:57.280 --> 01:34:59.976
tracking still um reasonably well

01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.416
tracking well for the first quarter.

01:35:01.440 --> 01:35:02.856
It'd be a bit hard not to be, wouldn't

01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.816
it? One quarter um but so yeah, we're

01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:08.456
well underway. We're um starting to

01:35:08.480 --> 01:35:10.215
achieve our objectives. Um we're

01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:11.896
performing reasonably well financially.

01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:14.920
We're still um I think we've got a

01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:16.215
little bit more money in the bank than

01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:19.239
we thought we did. um capital's pack's

01:35:19.440 --> 01:35:22.376
going along  nicely and our  yeah

01:35:22.400 --> 01:35:24.936
our other transformation issues it and

01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.016
so on are doing doing well as well. I'll

01:35:27.040 --> 01:35:28.215
leave it at that.

01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:29.976
Thank you councelor Lockwood. Councelor

01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.135
Baker, would you like to speak to the

01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:34.056
you very briefly? This is a report that

01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:36.456
used to or part of at the project status

01:35:36.480 --> 01:35:38.856
report at towards the end. Um I used to

01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:40.695
look forward to these coming to the what

01:35:40.719 --> 01:35:43.719
used to be the SPC meetings. Um but you

01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:45.896
know for the across the wards if

01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:47.896
residents are interested in what's

01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:49.736
happening across their wards with u

01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.816
money where it's being spent um there's

01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:53.736
a good  section on there just to keep

01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:55.175
you updated of what is actually

01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:57.336
happening in your ward. Um, but I always

01:35:57.360 --> 01:35:58.936
look forward to these um because it

01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.256
outlines how we're tracking um our

01:36:01.280 --> 01:36:03.416
financial performance and our capital

01:36:03.440 --> 01:36:06.440
program report as I just mentioned and

01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.615
um the transformation report. So I

01:36:08.639 --> 01:36:11.016
welcome this. I'm supportive of it. Um

01:36:11.040 --> 01:36:13.016
and it's a good way to keep on a track

01:36:13.040 --> 01:36:14.615
of where things are across our

01:36:14.639 --> 01:36:16.215
municipality. Thank you.

01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:17.896
Thank you councelor Baker. Does any

01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.896
other counselor wish to speak? Thank you

01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:21.816
councelor Pearce and then councelor

01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:24.135
Adwell.

01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.296
Hi. I just wanted to um thank you madame

01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:28.536
 Mayor. I just wanted to raise a few um

01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:30.615
items and considering figures are my

01:36:30.639 --> 01:36:33.096
thing um I'm just going to state a few

01:36:33.120 --> 01:36:35.175
figures. There was a positive variance

01:36:35.199 --> 01:36:37.816
in income by 7.59 million which was

01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:40.695
actually a increase the surplus to

01:36:40.719 --> 01:36:42.376
1.25.88

01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:43.896
million.

01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:46.056
Fasable variance was basically due to a

01:36:46.080 --> 01:36:49.080
property transaction. Um.7 in users fees

01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:53.960
6 million in a bulk lighting rebate and

01:36:54.080 --> 01:36:57.080
one in million in interest income.

01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:01.095
Expenses varants are on track. Um but

01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:03.416
there was a few timing errors which in

01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:06.440
an accounting perspective does happen.

01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.800
The capital works was up by.15

01:37:10.639 --> 01:37:12.615
million on budget.

01:37:12.639 --> 01:37:14.296
The performance for December quarter

01:37:14.320 --> 01:37:16.536
indicates strong liquidity with the

01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.560
working capital ratio at 4.05 to1 which

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:23.896
exceeds the minimum. However, it's noted

01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.296
that the 4.73 million of the positive

01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:28.776
variance in income was due to a windfall

01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.655
gain for a property transaction

01:37:31.679 --> 01:37:34.135
and there was also an increase in rate

01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:37.159
status with 2.5 million being over 90

01:37:37.280 --> 01:37:40.280
days which concerns me. Regarding

01:37:41.280 --> 01:37:44.280
capital works 170  117 projects in

01:37:46.400 --> 01:37:49.400
2025-26 of which four are completed 110

01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:52.215
are in progress and three are not

01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:53.896
started.

01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.135
The projects carried forward from 20

01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:59.159
2024 to 25 is 18.9 million which equates

01:38:00.719 --> 01:38:03.719
about 30% of the prior year program has

01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.056
been carried forward.

01:38:06.080 --> 01:38:07.736
Concerning transformation report, it

01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:10.296
should be noted that 25 projects are in

01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:13.320
progress of which 16 or 64% of the

01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:16.520
schedule and seven and of that seven are

01:38:18.639 --> 01:38:21.336
behind schedule. The remaining two

01:38:21.360 --> 01:38:24.135
projects, one's on hold and one has been

01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:26.856
closed due to external factors. That's

01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.695
my highlight report on the quarterly

01:38:28.719 --> 01:38:30.376
report. Thank you.

01:38:30.400 --> 01:38:32.056
Thanks councelor Pearce. Councelor

01:38:32.080 --> 01:38:33.256
Atwell.

01:38:33.280 --> 01:38:35.016
 thank you  Mayor. I just I wanted to

01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:37.816
mention in the  I think it's the

01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:39.736
capital the no city council project

01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:42.215
status report just the successful

01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:44.135
delivery of the footpath renewal program

01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:47.159
for 2526 so 30% of  the program has

01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:49.655
already been completed which I found

01:38:49.679 --> 01:38:52.615
very impressive and 65% has been scoped

01:38:52.639 --> 01:38:54.695
and committed to contractors  and

01:38:54.719 --> 01:38:57.175
internal construction team. So, and I

01:38:57.199 --> 01:38:59.416
raised this because in in in in my ward,

01:38:59.440 --> 01:39:00.776
the there's certainly some work

01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:03.496
happening and it's been um it's amazing

01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:05.816
to talk to local residents and neighbors

01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:07.736
and friends and just something as simple

01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:09.816
as seeing those, you know, the the

01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:11.336
yellow spray paint which has been there

01:39:11.360 --> 01:39:13.496
for years and years finally turn into a

01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:15.976
flat foot path. It's um it's incredibly

01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:17.816
simple, but it's very uplifting and it's

01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.056
a reminder when you walk around and see

01:39:20.080 --> 01:39:22.135
people enjoying smooth, flat foot paths

01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:24.776
that um you know, we have a complex,

01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:26.776
enormous program, but um we're also

01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:28.056
delivering those really simple things

01:39:28.080 --> 01:39:29.976
that make a an improvement to the

01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:31.816
day-to-day lives of our residents and

01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:33.896
community. So, thank you, Mr. Thorne,

01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:36.920
for um pushing go on footpath um

01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:39.256
footpath renewal. It's  incredibly

01:39:39.280 --> 01:39:42.135
important and um it's  it's a metric

01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.056
that I keep an eye on. So that's all.

01:39:44.080 --> 01:39:44.695
Thank you.

01:39:44.719 --> 01:39:46.536
Thank you, councelor Atwell. Does any

01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:48.936
other counselor wish to speak? Yes,

01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:50.296
councelor Duncan.

01:39:50.320 --> 01:39:52.456
Thank you,  Mayor Paige. Um, firstly,

01:39:52.480 --> 01:39:54.376
page 280, I believe, is a minor

01:39:54.400 --> 01:39:57.400
correction. Project 1680 lists scoresby

01:39:57.679 --> 01:39:59.736
reserve telecommunication tower. I don't

01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.816
believe it's in Bed Ward. Believe that's

01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:04.776
in yours. , councelor. Oh well. Um,

01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:06.296
the one thing I did want to highlight

01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:08.456
for councilors is on the same page as

01:40:08.480 --> 01:40:11.016
well, project 1683, the pavilions

01:40:11.040 --> 01:40:14.040
upgrade. Um, we have $630,000

01:40:14.480 --> 01:40:16.776
still waiting on a direction of council

01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:18.135
as to where we're going to spend that

01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.856
money. So, , really looking forward to

01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:22.856
our trip next Wednesday to go and and

01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:24.135
have a look at some of these pavilions

01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:27.095
that are in much need of, , of of work

01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:28.936
and hopefully after that we'll be able

01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:30.296
to look at where we can allocate this

01:40:30.320 --> 01:40:32.056
money where it can best be used. So,

01:40:32.080 --> 01:40:32.615
thank you.

01:40:32.639 --> 01:40:34.615
Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Would any

01:40:34.639 --> 01:40:37.639
other counselor like to speak?

01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:41.336
Thank you. and councelor Lockwood as

01:40:41.360 --> 01:40:43.016
mover would you like your right of

01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:43.896
reply?

01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.736
I'll reserve I'll let that go. Thank

01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:46.536
you.

01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.615
Thank you. I'll now put the motion. All

01:40:48.639 --> 01:40:50.536
those in favor?

01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:53.416
Thank you. That motion is carried.

01:40:53.440 --> 01:40:56.440
Item 8.4 response to alternate report

01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.896
into grounds leases. Would a council

01:40:59.920 --> 01:41:02.856
like to move a motion?

01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:03.736
Yes, council.

01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:06.135
I actually do need to declare a um

01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:07.896
transparency statement on this.

01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:10.536
Okay. Thank you.

01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:11.576
Yes. Go ahead, please.

01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:13.655
So, in regards to  8.4, the grand

01:41:13.679 --> 01:41:15.655
leases, um I'd like to declare a

01:41:15.679 --> 01:41:17.976
transparency statement in that I note

01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.416
that we're not making any decisions

01:41:19.440 --> 01:41:22.296
tonight. Um but  would like to note

01:41:22.320 --> 01:41:24.695
that um Bazewater CFA has been noted in

01:41:24.719 --> 01:41:26.296
the current grand leases and 

01:41:26.320 --> 01:41:27.655
obviously being the Nox group officer

01:41:27.679 --> 01:41:30.135
for CFA, I'd like just that to be noted.

01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.159
Thank you very much, Councelor Williams.

01:41:35.360 --> 01:41:37.256
Okay. And with that, would a council

01:41:37.280 --> 01:41:39.896
like to move a motion?

01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.056
Thank you, councelor Pearce, do I have a

01:41:42.080 --> 01:41:44.135
seconder?

01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:45.816
Thank you, councelor Baker. Councelor

01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:48.135
Pearce, would you like to speak?

01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:50.776
Yes, madame  Mayor. Just briefly, um,

01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:53.336
thank you to the department for

01:41:53.360 --> 01:41:55.416
producing this report. Um, Nicole over

01:41:55.440 --> 01:41:58.440
there, thank you very much. Um, I found

01:41:58.639 --> 01:42:00.936
it really interesting, but I think

01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:03.496
there's it's not an end. I think there's

01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:04.936
some supplementary work that really

01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:07.655
needs to be done. I think we I'd like to

01:42:07.679 --> 01:42:09.256
see a financial analysis between the

01:42:09.280 --> 01:42:11.256
cost and benefits of the grand leases to

01:42:11.280 --> 01:42:14.056
the community leases indicating all the

01:42:14.080 --> 01:42:17.080
revenue and costs for both ground and

01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:19.416
community leases. I'd also like to see

01:42:19.440 --> 01:42:21.095
an administrative cost recovery

01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.896
calculation for both the grounds and the

01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.456
community leases just so we can actually

01:42:26.480 --> 01:42:28.215
get a really good figure and a grounding

01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:31.239
on what the figures are behind this.

01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:33.416
And I'd like a quantitative assessment

01:42:33.440 --> 01:42:36.135
on the risk exposure or insurance costs

01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:38.936
attributed to the ground leases um to

01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:40.776
community leases. They're the things I

01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.336
think that would need to be to actually

01:42:43.360 --> 01:42:45.576
form an opinion on the ground leases

01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:47.736
that I just think it's missing those few

01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:50.695
points. Um but it was very well written

01:42:50.719 --> 01:42:53.719
report and thank you very much.

01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:56.135
Thank you councelor Pearce. Councelor

01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:58.856
Baker and seconder do you wish to speak?

01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:00.296
Oh very briefly. Thank you for the

01:43:00.320 --> 01:43:03.016
report. Um just obviously in response to

01:43:03.040 --> 01:43:06.040
a resolution back in July's meeting and

01:43:06.400 --> 01:43:08.456
noting that there are there are no

01:43:08.480 --> 01:43:10.856
changes recommended to the existing

01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.576
leasing and licensing policy. Um and I

01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.600
note the report as outlined. Thank you.

01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.119
All right. Um, councelor Pier, sorry,

01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:39.016
councelor Pearce, could I just check

01:43:39.040 --> 01:43:42.040
during um during when you spoke, you

01:43:43.360 --> 01:43:45.175
asked for a number of other items, but

01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:47.256
they're not included in

01:43:47.280 --> 01:43:49.175
No, I'll follow them up with the actual

01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:49.976
department.

01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:50.456
Okay.

01:43:50.480 --> 01:43:52.856
At a later date. The report's fine at

01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:54.615
the moment, but I will chase up those

01:43:54.639 --> 01:43:56.856
with um and discussions with Nicole and

01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:58.615
the other staff member. Thank you very

01:43:58.639 --> 01:44:00.376
much. Thank you, Pearce. I appreciate

01:44:00.400 --> 01:44:01.496
the confirmation.

01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:03.256
Nc.

01:44:03.280 --> 01:44:05.016
Oh, and can I just confirm that the

01:44:05.040 --> 01:44:06.695
report is with NVC?

01:44:06.719 --> 01:44:09.336
Yes.

01:44:09.360 --> 01:44:11.175
Thanks very much. , does any other

01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:14.199
counselor wish to speak?

01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:19.655
, councelor Pier says, "Mver, would

01:44:19.679 --> 01:44:22.376
you like to exercise a right of reply?"

01:44:22.400 --> 01:44:24.695
No, madame  Mayor. I think that's fine.

01:44:24.719 --> 01:44:25.655
Thank you.

01:44:25.679 --> 01:44:27.256
Thank you very much. I'll now put the

01:44:27.280 --> 01:44:30.280
motion. All those in favor?

01:44:31.679 --> 01:44:34.679
I'll declare that motion carried.

01:44:34.719 --> 01:44:37.719
 item 8.5, complaints policy. Would a

01:44:38.080 --> 01:44:41.080
council like to move a motion?

01:44:47.280 --> 01:44:49.736
Councelor Atwell. Thank you. Do I have a

01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:52.135
second for that motion? Yes. Thank you,

01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:54.376
councelor Duncan. Oh, and councelor

01:44:54.400 --> 01:44:55.736
Atwell, is that the officer's

01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:58.376
recommendation? Thank you very much. As

01:44:58.400 --> 01:44:59.976
mover, would you like to speak?

01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.615
, just very briefly, this is um an

01:45:02.639 --> 01:45:04.695
important mechanism for um for council

01:45:04.719 --> 01:45:07.256
and our our community to engage  with

01:45:07.280 --> 01:45:09.976
us when they have a complaint. And I um

01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.056
I thought the improvements  and the

01:45:12.080 --> 01:45:14.776
modernization of this was um was spot

01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:17.016
on. I like the detailing of very simple

01:45:17.040 --> 01:45:19.976
examples about um how to route 

01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:21.576
various complaints and feedback through

01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:23.416
councils and and what sort of internal

01:45:23.440 --> 01:45:25.896
processes it will follow. the um I

01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:27.175
believe we've been out we've we've

01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:28.695
sought feedback on this so it's come

01:45:28.719 --> 01:45:31.496
back and we are adopting  the policy

01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.256
um

01:45:33.280 --> 01:45:35.256
 so happy to leave it there and

01:45:35.280 --> 01:45:37.256
welcome any discussion

01:45:37.280 --> 01:45:39.336
thank you councel well councelor Duncan

01:45:39.360 --> 01:45:41.016
a seconder

01:45:41.040 --> 01:45:42.936
thank you  Mayor page um this is

01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:43.816
something that came through the

01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:45.095
transformation and governance committee

01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:47.896
that yourself and I and councelor Cooper

01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:49.816
 sit on this something I'm very very

01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:51.336
passionate about is a consistent

01:45:51.360 --> 01:45:53.976
approach to our our end users in their

01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.655
experience experience with NOX. So,

01:45:55.679 --> 01:45:57.336
putting putting this process in place

01:45:57.360 --> 01:45:59.095
that aligns it with our other

01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:01.576
interactions with with our residents um

01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:03.256
is a great step forward and and

01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:05.655
everything that you said spot on. 

01:46:05.679 --> 01:46:07.336
councelor Atwell. So, yeah, absolutely

01:46:07.360 --> 01:46:09.896
happy with this. Um it's a great start.

01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:11.496
Much more to do with a lot more policies

01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:12.936
that we need to review to bring in line

01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:14.856
with this, but very good start. So,

01:46:14.880 --> 01:46:15.576
thank you.

01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:17.175
Thank you, councelor Duncan. Does any

01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:20.199
other counselor wish to speak?

01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:24.296
 councelor Atwell's mover. No, thank

01:46:24.320 --> 01:46:26.135
you. I'll put the motion. All those in

01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:27.736
favor?

01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:30.760
I declare that motion carried.

01:46:31.679 --> 01:46:34.679
Moving on to item 8.6 for response to

01:46:34.719 --> 01:46:37.719
notice of motion number 188, Nox News.

01:46:38.480 --> 01:46:40.296
Would a council like to move a motion?

01:46:40.320 --> 01:46:41.976
I move the recommendation.

01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:43.816
Thank you, councelor Lowood. Is there a

01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:45.976
seconder?

01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.056
Thank you, councelor Atwell. Councelor

01:46:48.080 --> 01:46:49.976
Low.

01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:52.296
Um, thank you. , look, I just say we

01:46:52.320 --> 01:46:55.175
love Nox News. Let's get going. Um,

01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:56.615
maybe we can figure something out at the

01:46:56.639 --> 01:46:59.639
budget. Maybe we can't. Um, I just, ,

01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:02.615
yeah, just leave it at that. Thank you.

01:47:02.639 --> 01:47:04.536
Thank you, Councelor Lockwood. Councelor

01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:06.936
Atwell has second. Would you like to

01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:09.816
speak?  I spoke um I think I spoke

01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:12.296
when this notice of motion  was put

01:47:12.320 --> 01:47:14.056
quite passionately in support of Nox

01:47:14.080 --> 01:47:17.080
News and I I I won't repeat um won't

01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:19.976
repeat that again but um I thought this

01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.296
only served to reinforce

01:47:22.320 --> 01:47:24.456
 that that distinction and delineation

01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:27.175
between what Nox News does for council

01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:29.016
 as a council communication channel

01:47:29.040 --> 01:47:31.095
and and that is quite separate from the

01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:33.496
incredible work of our  four community

01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:35.576
newspapers. It was interesting to learn

01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:36.856
through this that, you know, for

01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.736
example, a suburb like Scoresby  in my

01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:41.496
ward  doesn't have any community

01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.215
newspapers delivered whatsoever. Um so I

01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:45.816
think we often assume they go everywhere

01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:47.576
and they do an absolutely incredible

01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:49.496
job. They're always looking for walkers

01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:51.816
as councelor Pearce um remarked earlier

01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:53.736
in the meeting, but there are there are

01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.760
gaps and NOX news um I see is quite

01:47:57.280 --> 01:47:59.576
separate, but Nox News of course goes to

01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.600
the entire entire municipality and I

01:48:02.639 --> 01:48:04.936
know it's a it's a it's a publication

01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:06.936
that lingers on on benchtops and in

01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:09.175
kitchens and often read by multiple

01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:11.736
members of the households and um I was

01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:13.175
you I thought the discussion on this

01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:16.199
councilors were very engaged and um

01:48:16.480 --> 01:48:19.480
about you know um how important Nox News

01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.655
is and that mix of editorial content and

01:48:21.679 --> 01:48:23.816
making sure it's reflective of 

01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:25.576
community needs and the hard news that

01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:27.976
we see um in our community in terms of

01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.776
issues. Um so  very yeah very

01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:32.376
interesting report. Appreciate  the

01:48:32.400 --> 01:48:34.296
background and yes onwards and upwards

01:48:34.320 --> 01:48:36.856
for Nox News and I think we should 

01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:39.336
absolutely continue  and grow our

01:48:39.360 --> 01:48:40.536
support for our local community

01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:42.776
newspapers. So thank you for the report.

01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:45.416
Thanks councelor. Does there any other

01:48:45.440 --> 01:48:48.440
Oh, thank you, Councelor Pearce.

01:48:48.480 --> 01:48:50.856
I've just got very short. Um, I just

01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:52.936
have concerns that we haven't costed our

01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:55.960
staff time. I want to have um I find it

01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.615
very difficult to make decisions when we

01:48:58.639 --> 01:49:01.639
haven't got all the costs involved. Um,

01:49:02.320 --> 01:49:04.056
I'd just like to see a further analysis

01:49:04.080 --> 01:49:06.296
to actually pinpoint what the actual

01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:08.936
staff time to the Nox News is. I know

01:49:08.960 --> 01:49:11.095
it's incorporating across different

01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.175
department across the department, but

01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:15.896
I'd like to see it a bit tighter. The

01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:17.655
other thing is I have concerns about the

01:49:17.679 --> 01:49:20.679
rising postage um because it makes could

01:49:21.360 --> 01:49:24.360
we move no news towards more digital and

01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:26.456
getting away from actually posting it

01:49:26.480 --> 01:49:29.336
out rather because those costs are not

01:49:29.360 --> 01:49:30.936
going to decrease, they're only going to

01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:32.936
increase. But these are things for our

01:49:32.960 --> 01:49:35.416
budget concern and I'll raise in the

01:49:35.440 --> 01:49:38.440
budget reports um when we discuss or

01:49:38.639 --> 01:49:40.856
when we discuss the budget rather than

01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:43.880
now. Thank you.

01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:46.135
Thank you councelor Pearce. Does any

01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:49.159
other council Thank you councelor Duncan

01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:52.056
um councelor Pearce it is it is digital

01:49:52.080 --> 01:49:54.456
at the moment as well. Um, one one of

01:49:54.480 --> 01:49:56.695
the things that I I really liked in this

01:49:56.719 --> 01:49:58.536
and the discussions that we've we've had

01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:00.296
is that that it's accessible to

01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:03.320
everybody regardless of of digital um

01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:07.576
ability, etc. Um, I just wanted to let

01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:08.856
everybody know though, but sitting on

01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:11.016
the the youth advisory council, I'm sure

01:50:11.040 --> 01:50:12.695
councelor Williams will back me up on

01:50:12.719 --> 01:50:14.296
this one, we've actually heard long and

01:50:14.320 --> 01:50:16.056
strong from the youth that they love the

01:50:16.080 --> 01:50:18.135
magazine, which I would have thought

01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:21.159
that's not their their jam, so to speak.

01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:23.576
Um, and they've actually asked that

01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:25.416
extra copies of this be delivered to

01:50:25.440 --> 01:50:27.576
schools, um, which we brought up at the

01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:29.896
issues briefing. So, we're we're getting

01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:31.816
great engagement from the youth and the

01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:33.976
young people coming forward. Um, may

01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:35.256
have something to do with the current

01:50:35.280 --> 01:50:37.576
social media ban, may not. Um, but I'm

01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:39.496
I'm an absolute fan. I would I would

01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:41.496
like to see us be able to increase our

01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:43.736
our  report at the end to greater than

01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:46.456
60 words, but I am looking forward to

01:50:46.480 --> 01:50:49.416
reading your first meril message page.

01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:51.736
So I'm absolutely supportive of the Knox

01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:53.095
news as I am with the community

01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:55.016
newspapers as well.

01:50:55.040 --> 01:50:56.856
Thank you councelor Duncan. Councelor

01:50:56.880 --> 01:50:58.615
Baker did I see? Thank you.

01:50:58.639 --> 01:51:01.496
Thank you. Um I pray we've obviously got

01:51:01.520 --> 01:51:03.816
the online that was mentioned as well.

01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.615
Um I'm supportive of having the printed

01:51:06.639 --> 01:51:09.095
version. We do have an aging community.

01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:10.856
Not everyone's on the internet. So for

01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:13.496
them this is a way of accessing um the

01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:16.520
information um age care or residential

01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:19.736
retirement village etc. So, um I take it

01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:22.296
all on board. Um and welcome and I I

01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:25.320
think both our our NOX news and the NOX

01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:28.135
 the newspapers serve a very good

01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:30.135
purpose in our community. Um and I'm

01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:31.655
happy to maintain them. So, thanks for

01:51:31.679 --> 01:51:34.679
the report. Very informative. Um and to

01:51:34.880 --> 01:51:37.880
to understand that 72 72.6%

01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:41.880
agree it keeps them well informed. So,

01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:43.655
um I think there is value and merit in

01:51:43.679 --> 01:51:45.095
keeping them both the NOX news and

01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:46.776
supporting our community papers too.

01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.416
Thank you. Thank you, councelor Baker.

01:51:49.440 --> 01:51:52.440
Does any other councelor wish to speak?

01:51:53.280 --> 01:51:55.736
No. Councelor Lockwood, would you like

01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:58.760
to exercise your right of reply?

01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:00.615
Thank you. So, whoever thought of this

01:52:00.639 --> 01:52:01.736
in the beginning must have been a

01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:04.695
genius.

01:52:04.719 --> 01:52:06.776
Thank you, councelor Low. I'll now put

01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:09.736
the motion. All those in favor? I

01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:12.760
declare that motion carried.

01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.880
Moving on to item 8.7, lease and lysine

01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:18.776
omnibus report. Councelor Cooper, I

01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:20.856
believe you have a declaration.

01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:22.456
Thank you. Yes, I did forget to

01:52:22.480 --> 01:52:24.215
foreshadow this at the beginning of the

01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:26.615
meeting, so I do apologize. In

01:52:26.639 --> 01:52:28.856
accordance with local government act

01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:31.880
2020, I, Lisa Cooper, declare that I do

01:52:32.320 --> 01:52:34.536
have a general conflict of interest on

01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:37.560
this meeting day with item 8.7, lease

01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:41.560
and licensing report. Um the nature of

01:52:42.239 --> 01:52:45.239
my interest is I am the area network

01:52:45.440 --> 01:52:47.575
manager for the outer eastern community

01:52:47.599 --> 01:52:50.599
houses which the basin community house

01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:53.736
listed in this report is within that

01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.760
grouping.

01:52:57.280 --> 01:53:00.280
Thank you councelor Cooper.

01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:10.296
Councelor Atwell, I believe you have an

01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:13.320
alternate. Yes,

01:53:17.440 --> 01:53:18.536
would you like to speak to your

01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:19.416
alternate?

01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:22.376
Yes. Yes. Happy to move that.

01:53:22.400 --> 01:53:25.256
Do I need to read it first or move it?

01:53:25.280 --> 01:53:28.280
, we need to read it first.

01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:31.976
Do

01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:33.336
I have to?

01:53:33.360 --> 01:53:35.496
Okay. if you wouldn't mind council well

01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:37.575
just highlighting the changes for the

01:53:37.599 --> 01:53:39.575
benefit of the gallery and online.

01:53:39.599 --> 01:53:42.599
Yes. So, for item 8.7 at  4,

01:53:44.400 --> 01:53:47.400
oh, it's on there. Was it 77 C? Um a

01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:51.800
change um relating to Roville 3-year-old

01:53:52.400 --> 01:53:54.536
kindergarten at 967 Wellington Road,

01:53:54.560 --> 01:53:57.016
Roville. And to change the commencement

01:53:57.040 --> 01:53:59.256
date of this agreement  is 1st of

01:53:59.280 --> 01:54:02.280
January 2026 to be a period for two

01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:05.480
years rather than one  with two

01:54:06.080 --> 01:54:08.376
extension options of one year rather

01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:10.135
than three extension options of one

01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:12.056
year.

01:54:12.080 --> 01:54:14.376
Thanks very much councelor Atwell. Would

01:54:14.400 --> 01:54:16.615
a council like to move a motion?

01:54:16.639 --> 01:54:18.456
Oh,

01:54:18.480 --> 01:54:21.256
or you've moved it. And

01:54:21.280 --> 01:54:23.496
Susan, you'd like to second the motion?

01:54:23.520 --> 01:54:25.736
Thank you very much. And councelor

01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:27.016
Atwell, would you like to speak to the

01:54:27.040 --> 01:54:27.496
motion?

01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:29.496
Yes. Yes, I would. This is a a

01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:32.520
collection of  yes, several important

01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:35.800
 community  organizations um

01:54:36.320 --> 01:54:37.575
community groups and service

01:54:37.599 --> 01:54:39.575
organization that are that are proposed

01:54:39.599 --> 01:54:41.496
 tenants through our lease leasing and

01:54:41.520 --> 01:54:43.575
licensing policy. So, I'm making a

01:54:43.599 --> 01:54:45.416
change to one, but I appreciate that I'm

01:54:45.440 --> 01:54:47.976
speaking to moving an alternate now on

01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:50.296
an item that includes um yeah, several

01:54:50.320 --> 01:54:53.175
really important community groups um and

01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:55.896
establishes  that a leasing

01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.615
arrangements um for years to come. Um

01:54:58.639 --> 01:55:00.536
so, that this yeah, the very small and

01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:02.536
and specific but important change I

01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:04.936
propose was there are a few um

01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:07.655
independent  kindergarten providers 

01:55:07.679 --> 01:55:09.496
covered in here. One is the Roville

01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:11.736
3-year-old kindergarten which is  in

01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:14.056
my ward along  Wellington Road, not

01:55:14.080 --> 01:55:15.575
far from Wellington Road and Stub Road

01:55:15.599 --> 01:55:18.599
intersection. And um I the change um

01:55:19.360 --> 01:55:22.056
that I'm proposing brings their leasing

01:55:22.080 --> 01:55:24.056
term and and proposal into alignment

01:55:24.080 --> 01:55:26.936
with the other independent providers. So

01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.256
it was going to be a 1 + 1 plus 1 plus

01:55:29.280 --> 01:55:30.776
1. And I'm proposing that like the

01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:33.800
others it is a 2 + 1 plus one. um a

01:55:34.639 --> 01:55:36.056
small change but I think it's an

01:55:36.080 --> 01:55:38.296
important change for Roville 3-year-old.

01:55:38.320 --> 01:55:39.976
It will just give them you know rather

01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:41.575
than this time next year needing to

01:55:41.599 --> 01:55:44.536
reconsider um that plus one they can

01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:46.615
have the certainty and ability over the

01:55:46.639 --> 01:55:48.135
next two years to really establish

01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:50.135
themselves in that new space and

01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:51.655
continue to provide the great service

01:55:51.679 --> 01:55:53.896
that they do for  communities and

01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:56.920
families um  particularly in in that

01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.960
southwest corner of Roville. So, , I

01:56:00.480 --> 01:56:02.536
yes, request the support of my

01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:04.296
colleagues in making that small change

01:56:04.320 --> 01:56:06.615
and, um, and in doing so, yeah, note and

01:56:06.639 --> 01:56:08.536
welcome discussion on the many, ,

01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:10.296
great community organizations that make

01:56:10.320 --> 01:56:11.816
up this omnibus report. Thank you,

01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:13.575
 Mayor.

01:56:13.599 --> 01:56:15.256
Excellent. Thanks, councelor Atwell.

01:56:15.280 --> 01:56:16.936
Councelor Pearce is second.

01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:19.896
Yes, I'll be just briefly. In regards to

01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:21.896
this um alternate, I agree with

01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:24.920
councelor Atwell that consistency across

01:56:25.040 --> 01:56:26.936
all the kindergartens should be really

01:56:26.960 --> 01:56:29.575
done. So basically what he's suggesting

01:56:29.599 --> 01:56:31.336
is that it's consistent across that

01:56:31.360 --> 01:56:34.056
particular sector and so that each of

01:56:34.080 --> 01:56:36.376
them have the same terms and I'm fully

01:56:36.400 --> 01:56:38.376
supportive of that. The only other thing

01:56:38.400 --> 01:56:41.400
I'd like to bring up is in regards to

01:56:41.440 --> 01:56:43.095
ASB16

01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:46.119
leases and licenses. There's no mention

01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:48.056
of the accounting standard in the

01:56:48.080 --> 01:56:50.615
report. So that's the only other thing I

01:56:50.639 --> 01:56:53.416
it's just my quirks that I like to read

01:56:53.440 --> 01:56:55.496
that they're acknowledged. So I just

01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:57.816
wanted to bring that up in regards to

01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:00.536
that. But I fully support council at

01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:03.560
alternate.

01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:06.776
Thank you. Councelor Pearce, would any

01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.800
other counselor like to speak?

01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:14.936
No.  councelor Elwell would you like

01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:16.936
to exercise your right of reply? Just

01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:18.536
very briefly, may just to mention that

01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:21.016
as part of this we are leasing to

01:57:21.040 --> 01:57:22.776
Highest Community Garden, the Basin

01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:24.695
Community House, Rogal Menshed. I was

01:57:24.719 --> 01:57:27.496
there on  Saturday, I think it was our

01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:29.896
Sunday morning at the Nox Repair Cafe,

01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:31.655
 Nox Toy Library, the three-year-old

01:57:31.679 --> 01:57:33.896
kinder,  Kinder Lee, Roville

01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:35.336
3-year-old Kinder, Yara Rangers,

01:57:35.360 --> 01:57:37.816
Kindergartens who operate at Bonia,

01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:39.896
Alchester Village in Bonia, Liberty

01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:42.376
Avenue in Roville, and  deed of

01:57:42.400 --> 01:57:44.536
variation with Uniting for their service

01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:47.560
at one south. a a collection of um

01:57:47.599 --> 01:57:49.175
really important community groups and

01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:50.856
community service organizations covered

01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:53.736
in this report.

01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:55.896
Thank you, councelor Atwell. I'll now

01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:58.920
put the motion. All those in favor?

01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:02.040
I declare that motion carried.

01:58:05.040 --> 01:58:07.175
We'll just wait for councelor Cooper to

01:58:07.199 --> 01:58:10.199
return to the gallery.

01:58:14.480 --> 01:58:17.480
Thank you.  item nine is supplementary

01:58:17.599 --> 01:58:19.336
items. There are no supplementary items

01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:21.496
this evening. So we'll move on to item

01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:24.520
10, notices of motion. Item 10.1, notice

01:58:25.199 --> 01:58:28.199
of motion number 191, advocacy for

01:58:28.239 --> 01:58:29.816
improved maintenance standards of

01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:32.376
arterial road mediums.

01:58:32.400 --> 01:58:33.896
We have a notice of motion from

01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:36.056
councelor Williams. Councelor Williams,

01:58:36.080 --> 01:58:37.575
would you like to move your motion as

01:58:37.599 --> 01:58:39.575
set out in the agenda?

01:58:39.599 --> 01:58:41.336
, yes. I would like to move the

01:58:41.360 --> 01:58:43.016
motion. Do you want me to read the

01:58:43.040 --> 01:58:45.016
motion? No. Awkward.

01:58:45.040 --> 01:58:48.040
No. I need to call for a second.

01:58:49.280 --> 01:58:51.256
Thank you, Councelor Baker. Councelor

01:58:51.280 --> 01:58:52.936
Williams. Thank you.

01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:55.016
, thank you. We find ourselves here 12

01:58:55.040 --> 01:58:56.856
months later. Um, pretty similar

01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:58.776
position, unfortunately. Um, we brought

01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:01.800
this up  as a council. Yeah. literally

01:59:01.840 --> 01:59:04.840
12 months ago  that we would advocate

01:59:05.040 --> 01:59:08.040
to DTP and and um necessary parties to

01:59:08.480 --> 01:59:09.655
make sure that mowing and things like

01:59:09.679 --> 01:59:12.679
that happen. Um for those who um do

01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:14.936
venture outdoors, you'd be noticing at

01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:16.135
the moment you could pretty much stand

01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.695
in some of our medium strips and not be

01:59:18.719 --> 01:59:20.695
seen and you'd be able to hide pretty 

01:59:20.719 --> 01:59:23.095
pretty easily. And for those who have a

01:59:23.119 --> 01:59:24.215
lawn at home, you'd know that you're

01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:25.256
probably mowing your lawn probably

01:59:25.280 --> 01:59:26.695
almost once a week at the moment with

01:59:26.719 --> 01:59:27.976
the current climate and everything

01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:31.000
that's going on. So, um, apart from a

01:59:31.199 --> 01:59:32.856
fire risk, , the traffic at an

01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:35.016
accident risk, um, it also makes our

01:59:35.040 --> 01:59:38.040
suburbs look horrible. So, , DTP's

01:59:38.719 --> 01:59:40.135
communicated to us that they're going to

01:59:40.159 --> 01:59:43.159
cut the lawns three times a year, ,

01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:45.256
which are noted in in my notice of

01:59:45.280 --> 01:59:47.976
motion, and, , I just don't think

01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:49.976
that's sufficient enough. So, especially

01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:51.655
during those summer months and all these

01:59:51.679 --> 01:59:54.679
these sorts of months now, um not enough

01:59:54.880 --> 01:59:57.880
um mowing to be able to keep our um

01:59:58.639 --> 02:00:01.416
grass low and keep the the risk away.

02:00:01.440 --> 02:00:03.336
So, I ask that we write again to

02:00:03.360 --> 02:00:06.360
advocate um on behalf of council  that

02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:09.416
we request the frequency  to be

02:00:09.440 --> 02:00:12.440
adjusted um and also provide us with

02:00:13.280 --> 02:00:15.095
some answers towards that. So I would

02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:17.256
like to acknowledge  director Thorne

02:00:17.280 --> 02:00:19.016
who's um assisted in writing this notice

02:00:19.040 --> 02:00:21.575
emotion with myself. Um but I think it's

02:00:21.599 --> 02:00:22.936
vitally important that we do engage

02:00:22.960 --> 02:00:24.536
between council and emergency services

02:00:24.560 --> 02:00:27.256
also and that we do respond to our local

02:00:27.280 --> 02:00:29.175
residents who are also noticing this. I

02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:30.456
think just out the front here you can

02:00:30.480 --> 02:00:33.016
literally stand at the front and um 

02:00:33.040 --> 02:00:35.976
yeah not be seen.

02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:37.896
Thank you councelor Williams. Councelor

02:00:37.920 --> 02:00:39.175
Baker and seconder.

02:00:39.199 --> 02:00:41.976
Thank you. Um I'm completely supportive

02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:45.000
of this notice of motion. I agree to

02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:47.416
drive through Knox and have the medians

02:00:47.440 --> 02:00:50.296
trip look un unsightly like it is. Um

02:00:50.320 --> 02:00:52.296
it's normally councils or council that

02:00:52.320 --> 02:00:55.320
may  hear from our residents um who

02:00:55.440 --> 02:00:57.336
are quite upset with the the visibility

02:00:57.360 --> 02:01:00.056
of this. So um I agree I don't think

02:01:00.080 --> 02:01:01.816
it's adequate enough particularly in the

02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:04.456
war warmer months and into spring um

02:01:04.480 --> 02:01:06.615
that this grass is being left for this

02:01:06.639 --> 02:01:09.639
period of time. So I I feel that

02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:11.175
particularly during the summer periods

02:01:11.199 --> 02:01:13.655
that the increase of mowing should occur

02:01:13.679 --> 02:01:16.056
and I'm fully supportive of reaching out

02:01:16.080 --> 02:01:19.080
and supporting no motion um to have that

02:01:19.280 --> 02:01:22.056
reviewed by our our state MPs. So thank

02:01:22.080 --> 02:01:23.655
you.

02:01:23.679 --> 02:01:25.575
Thank you councelor Baker. Does any

02:01:25.599 --> 02:01:27.655
other council wish to speak? Yes,

02:01:27.679 --> 02:01:30.456
councelor Pearce and councelor.

02:01:30.480 --> 02:01:32.215
I agree with my council colleagues. It

02:01:32.239 --> 02:01:35.239
is unsightly and we're coming into the

02:01:35.280 --> 02:01:37.896
warmer weather. It's a fire risk and

02:01:37.920 --> 02:01:39.736
it's a risk that somebody's just got to

02:01:39.760 --> 02:01:42.760
drop one um cigarette into that fire

02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:46.760
into that dry pile and up it goes and

02:01:47.360 --> 02:01:50.360
then we've got real problems. So I I'm

02:01:50.400 --> 02:01:52.695
thoroughly supporting this this motion.

02:01:52.719 --> 02:01:54.695
I agree that we need to get them to do

02:01:54.719 --> 02:01:57.719
it more than three times a year. And is

02:01:57.920 --> 02:02:00.056
there any chance that we can actually

02:02:00.080 --> 02:02:02.056
word the letter a bit more strongly than

02:02:02.080 --> 02:02:05.080
what we have in the past to just note to

02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:07.496
them that they really need to do this?

02:02:07.520 --> 02:02:09.175
That this is the second time, second

02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:11.416
year running, we've asked them for it.

02:02:11.440 --> 02:02:13.175
It's just a thought. If we can't, we

02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.095
can't. But I just think it would be a

02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:17.095
really good idea to just be a little bit

02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:20.056
more stronger in asking for it. Anyway,

02:02:20.080 --> 02:02:23.080
that's the end of mine. Thank you.

02:02:24.320 --> 02:02:25.736
Thank you, Councelor Pearce. Councelor

02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:28.056
Atwell.  thank you  Mayor and 

02:02:28.080 --> 02:02:30.456
commend councelor Williams for putting

02:02:30.480 --> 02:02:31.736
this up. From memory it was the very

02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.056
first notice of motion or first two that

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this council   adopted after the

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election um last year related to

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potholes and related to u median

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maintenance. And um we don't want to get

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back to seeing  what we saw last year,

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which was residents of our community

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taking this into their own hands and

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pulling up quite dangerously at

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intersections and getting out with line

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trimmers and and lawnmowers. That was

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happening. And um  I think that was

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vision that really prompted action. 

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that's quite dangerous. We don't want to

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see people  doing that, but at some

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intersections it was it was crucial to

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being able to see, you know, as you were

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doing a right-hand turn or across a

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blind spot. So, um I think we should be

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as as as we should write a sternly and

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strongly worded  letter. Um and I also

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like the point about um asking for a um

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accessible schedule of mowing

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activities. I mean, we can we can

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program our work and sort of roughly

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know when it's happening. I mean, if

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they're engaging  the people to do the

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work, then um and know how often it is,

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then give us a window. it would be

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really great to be able to refer our

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residents to a a resource where they

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could have even a ballpark understanding

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of when they were going to see mowing

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activity. So, um I think our community

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does increasingly understand that this

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is not a council responsibility when it

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comes to those arterial roads. Um and

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there is a growing level of frustration

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that we'll see what we did  last

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summer again  this summer. So, 

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thank you for the the work in putting

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these words together and um let's get

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the letter out as soon as possible.

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Thank you,  Mayor.

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Thank you, councelor. Does any other

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counselor wish to speak?

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Yes, councelor Duncan.

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Um, just very quickly, councelor

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Williams, absolutely fantastic support

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this. As you said, councelor Atwell,

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this was one of your first points. I

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think being involved in the CFA, you've

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got an insight into this that some of us

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won't truly appreciate. Um, but also

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just did want to give a shout out to

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Director Thorne's  department with the

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maintenance that we're actually doing of

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of the road veres. It's very very

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obvious when you drive down  scores

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down Bwood Highway, sorry, through up

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towards Scorsesby etc. that the medium

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strips are out of control, but the

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verges there look really good. Same

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thing down Bonia Road. So, um, we are

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doing our part as a council and I I

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think it's it's a positive step to show

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the state government that we'd like to

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know exactly what their plan is for for

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it. So, congratulations, Councelor

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Williams, and it's fantastic work.

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Thank you, Councelor Duncan. Does any

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other councelor wish to speak?

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No. I'd also like to thank councelor

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Williams for bringing this notice of

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motion to council.  definitely

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listening to our residents and and what

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they're asking for for us and as one of

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our roles advocating to other levels of

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government based on what we hear. So

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thank you very much councelor Williams.

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 with that I will  ask councelor

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Williams as mover if he would like to

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exercise his right reply.

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Thank you  Mayor. Just just briefly um

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again thanks all the counselors for

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their support on this one. It is vitally

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important. Um, as councelor Awell

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mentioned, we may not always caught the

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the brunt of it, but we do get the

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complaints from it. That's for sure. So,

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um um a good point there. And definitely

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in terms of the fire risk, yes, I can

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talk um with hand on heart on that one

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that I've been to many events through at

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Knox um where medium strips are on fire

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from a cigarette butt as Chancellor

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Pearce mentioned and um then it causes

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smoke and other concerns across the

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road. um which then causes accidents and

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various other things. And being that

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we're in a high fire risk  area and

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and notably one of the three high fire

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risk areas  in Victoria for this um

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coming fire season, um the fire danger

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period will come into effect at some

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point in the next couple of weeks um

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from our um acting chief out out this

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way. Um so it is important we do address

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these things before it does get out of

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control.

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Thank you, Councelor Williams. I'll now

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put the motion. All those in favor? That

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motion is carried.

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Moving on to item 10.2, notice of motion

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recision number 1 190, lease agreement

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between Nox City Council and Scouts

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Victoria. Councelor Baker, you

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foreshadowed a statement. Yes, I did.

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Thank you. And through you,  Mayor

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Kennett, I've got to get out of the the

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Koopa part, so sorry. Bear with me. Um

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to be very clear, I do not have a

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conflict of interest, but would like to

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make a transparency statement on this

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item. My transparency statement is a

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friend is a member of the scouts group.

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Um but I do not believe it's a conflict

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of interest as it's remote in nature.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Councelor Baker. And

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councelor Atwell, I believe you also

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have a

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Thank you,  Mayor. Yes, I do have a a

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transparency statement. Um, I don't have

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a conflict of interest, but a bit like

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councelor Baker, I have a  family

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member who is a a Joey Scout at a

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scouting group in Knox. So, , thank

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you.

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Thank you, Councelor. Councilors, before

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we resume debate on this item, it is

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worth noting for the benefit of the

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gallery and those online that the

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recision motion was lodged by councelor

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Pearce and councelor Williams and listed

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on the agenda of the council meeting of

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the 20th of November, 2025 in accordance

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with council's governance rules. At this

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council meeting, council resolved to

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adjourn the matter until tonight's

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meeting. At this stage, councelor Pearce

02:08:09.679 --> 02:08:11.736
has already moved the motion and

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councelor Williams has seconded the

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motion. I note the recision motion was

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circulated in the agenda for the council

02:08:19.280 --> 02:08:21.496
meeting last week and has been published

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online alongside tonight's agenda as

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it's quite a long motion. In the

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interest of time I won't ask for it to

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be read. We will pick up where we left

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off on the 20th of November. And with

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that council Pearce's mover, would you

02:08:36.239 --> 02:08:37.575
like to speak?

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Yes, madame may I would.

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in I am writing in regards to the

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recision motion as I'm not happy with

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the results of the previous motion. I

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did not take presenting a recision

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motion lightly

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and I did basically um to and fro this

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decision. The recision motion is to

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highlight two areas of concern. First is

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that Scouse Victoria who are the party

02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:08.199
to the lease are not happy with some of

02:09:08.639 --> 02:09:10.936
the conditions as per their email the

02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:13.960
10th of November. I've also spoken to

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them today and they still want to have

02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:19.880
some talk about it. On that basis, I'd

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like to see that it opens so that the

02:09:22.960 --> 02:09:25.416
CEO can make

02:09:25.440 --> 02:09:27.736
or open up so it's just not minor and

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administrative changes. and it's open so

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he can actually negotiate

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without having that restriction. There's

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no definition in there what a minor and

02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:40.360
administrative decision  decision is

02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:43.496
or or matter and I'd like to give the

02:09:43.520 --> 02:09:46.456
CEO the widest scope so that this is not

02:09:46.480 --> 02:09:49.016
keep does not keep coming back to

02:09:49.040 --> 02:09:51.896
council to be discussed when there's a m

02:09:51.920 --> 02:09:54.215
major decision.

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The second point of the resin motion is

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for the leases to come to council for

02:09:58.719 --> 02:10:01.175
approval. It just means another tick box

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that we can have a look at the leases

02:10:03.440 --> 02:10:05.575
and see what we're if we're happy with

02:10:05.599 --> 02:10:07.816
them, we can sign off. They go out and

02:10:07.840 --> 02:10:10.376
get signed. There are my reasons for

02:10:10.400 --> 02:10:13.016
putting the risk in motion up are

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basically to cover the both situations

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to make sure that this is not something

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that occurs again and again and to find

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a a solution. Thank you.

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Thank you, councelor Pearce. Councelor

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Williams, a seconder, do you wish to

02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:30.856
speak?

02:10:30.880 --> 02:10:33.880
I do. Thank you. Um through you, May. Um

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as as councelor Pearce mentioned, I

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believe this gives us some time to um

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collect all the ideas and any changes

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and present to a council a finalized and

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in reality and almost done ready to

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endorse um lease and program. Um I I do

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have some concerns around  that John

02:10:53.599 --> 02:10:56.599
McGregor, the state um scouts  leader

02:10:57.840 --> 02:11:00.055
has told us in writing to hold off from

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this agreement um because he's had some

02:11:02.400 --> 02:11:03.816
issues with some of the terms and

02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:06.615
conditions  of this agreement. I I

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would like to though put on record and

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commend um councelor Cooper who was

02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:11.655
 Mayor at the time for her great idea

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around the $239 and fully supportive of

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of that as part of this.  I think what

02:11:17.199 --> 02:11:18.936
councelor Cooper did there was  a

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great  opportunity to reduce the fees

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for um scouts and something that shows

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that we all as counselors are listening

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to  our scouting community. So I just

02:11:28.400 --> 02:11:30.296
want to pop that on record. But I do

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feel we just need a little bit more

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time. Um and I feel by doing this

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recision motion allows us that time to

02:11:36.400 --> 02:11:38.456
be able to do that. noting that by

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holding it back however long this takes

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to  finalize won't have any effect or

02:11:44.480 --> 02:11:47.480
any direct effect  to scouts and their

02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:49.336
current climate and what they're using

02:11:49.360 --> 02:11:51.655
their facilities for. So I'm mindful

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that um just based on an email from the

02:11:53.840 --> 02:11:56.840
state um scouts informing us as

02:11:57.199 --> 02:11:59.336
counselors in writing to hold off

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pending further discussion. I think we

02:12:01.360 --> 02:12:03.496
need to listen to skates state scouts in

02:12:03.520 --> 02:12:05.736
that we've got our lease directly with

02:12:05.760 --> 02:12:08.615
the scouts Victorian and not perhaps the

02:12:08.639 --> 02:12:11.639
no scouts  who also um who have come

02:12:12.159 --> 02:12:13.416
to us and said they've approved the

02:12:13.440 --> 02:12:14.856
lease. There seems to be a bit of a

02:12:14.880 --> 02:12:16.776
disconnect between the two and I think

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it allows us time as counselors to also

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assess that um and figure out why there

02:12:22.400 --> 02:12:25.016
is a disconnect between the two. Um but

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I think we've got to be listening to the

02:12:26.400 --> 02:12:28.055
lease holder and I think that's my

02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:29.416
biggest concern out of this. Hence the

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recision motion that we do need to

02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:33.095
listen to the lease holder  in

02:12:33.119 --> 02:12:34.695
particular, but again would like to

02:12:34.719 --> 02:12:36.135
commend councelor Cooper and would like

02:12:36.159 --> 02:12:38.296
to retain the $239 per site. I think

02:12:38.320 --> 02:12:39.976
that was a fantastic initiative and well

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done on popping that up. Um but this

02:12:42.719 --> 02:12:44.856
just allows us a bit more time to review

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and get things done right so when we

02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:49.560
propose it, it's ready to go.

02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:51.816
Thank you, Councelor Williams. Does any

02:12:51.840 --> 02:12:54.840
other councelor wish to speak?

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Councelor Pearce as mover, do you wish

02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:01.655
to exercise your right of reply?

02:13:01.679 --> 02:13:04.055
Yes, Pete, just briefly.

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Look, I these have been going for a

02:13:06.079 --> 02:13:07.736
number of years. I don't want to rush

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this. I want to get the right result so

02:13:10.639 --> 02:13:12.776
that moving forward this is going to be

02:13:12.800 --> 02:13:15.800
the right decision. I do want to commend

02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:19.000
councelor Cooper the 239. Brilliant.

02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:22.695
Love that bit and that I've made sure

02:13:22.719 --> 02:13:24.536
that that's retained. I think it's a

02:13:24.560 --> 02:13:27.016
great idea. um was something that I

02:13:27.040 --> 02:13:29.175
really was hoping we could do and thank

02:13:29.199 --> 02:13:31.016
you for your leadership in doing that.

02:13:31.040 --> 02:13:34.040
Appreciate it. Um the other conditions,

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they're purely there to make sure that

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at the end of the day, I don't want this

02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:40.920
going from state to us to state to us. I

02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:43.736
want it to be finalized. I want to get

02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:45.336
it finished. I want certainty for these

02:13:45.360 --> 02:13:48.360
scout groups. And this is a way I feel

02:13:48.639 --> 02:13:51.016
of moving forward that we can actually

02:13:51.040 --> 02:13:53.575
provide them with that assurity. Thank

02:13:53.599 --> 02:13:55.496
you.

02:13:55.520 --> 02:13:57.256
Thank you, Councelor Pearce. I'll now

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put the motion. All those in favor.

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All those opposed.

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Division.

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And all those abstaining.

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Thank you.  division's been called.

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Thank you. I was just getting some

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guidance. Still learning. Um I declare

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the motion lost. However, with the

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division, I will put that motion aside

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and I will again put the motion. All

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those in favor, councelor Pearce,

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Councelor Williams, Councelor Kennett,

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Councelor Lockwood, Councelor Duncan,

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, all those opposed,

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Councelor Atwell, Councelor Cooper,

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Councelor Baker, all those abstaining.

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Councelor Considate, I declare that

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motion carried.

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, item 11, urgent business. Does any

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councelor wish to raise a matter of

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urgent business?

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No, thank you. Given that there are no

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urgent business items of urgent

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business, I'll move on to questions

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through the chair. Does any counselor

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wish to raise a question through the

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chair?

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No. Thank you.  there are two

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confidential items for this evening.

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Item 13.1 core business systems platform

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update and 13.2 CEO performance review.

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Is someone prepared to move a motion

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that we close the meeting to the public

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in accordance with section 66 of the

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Local Government Act 2020 as shown on

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the screen?

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Thank you, Councelor Pearce. And do I

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have a seconder? Thank you, Councelor

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Williams.

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, is that the recommendation as shown

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on the screen, Councelor Pearce?

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Yes.

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Yes, Madame  Mayor, it is.

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Thank you. I'll now put the motion. All

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those in favor,

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I declare that motion carried. We are

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now going to move into confidential

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items. As these are the last items on

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the agenda, we will not be reopening the

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meeting. Thank you to members of our

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public gallery and those viewing the

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meeting online. I wish you good night.