WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.879 that we are on the traditional lands of 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:05.160 the Wurundjeri and Bunurong people and 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:07.480 pay our respects to Elders past present 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:09.960 and emerging I would also like to 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:11.839 acknowledge any Aboriginal and Torres 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:13.560 Strait Islander people that we have 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:14.960 with us 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.399 today our statement of commitment the 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:21.160 Knox way is characterized by service 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.839 integrity Community participation 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:26.600 accountability and good governance 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.679 council is committed to being responsive 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.160 to the community and advocating to other 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:34.280 governments and agencies on their 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.799 behalf we recognize the importance of 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:38.679 local democracy and council's 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.520 responsibility to govern well for all in 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.960 our city our history is rich and in the 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.719 spirit of the Knox tradition let us move 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.200 and 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.200 prosper we are conducting tonight's 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.039 meeting in a hybrid format as usual and 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.039 we do have some counselors joining us 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.759 online tonight so I'll start by 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:02.799 introducing my colleagues and ask 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.599 counselors to give a bit of a wave as I 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.239 call out their names counselors in 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.719 attendance tonight uh councelor Nicole 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.920 Seymour representing Tirhatuan Ward councilor 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.040 Lisa Cooper representing Scott Ward 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.400 Deputy Mayor and councelor Sorina Grasso 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.560 representing Dinsdale Ward councelor Meagan 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.239 Baker representing Dobson Ward councelor 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.200 Darren Pearce representing Taylor Ward 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:31.879 councelor Susan Laukin representing 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:35.519 Friberg Ward and joining us online we have 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.760 councelor Yvonne Allred representing Baird 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.480 and councelor Marcia Timmers-Leitch representing 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.439 Collier Ward 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.879 joining us in the chamber are our 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:50.560 chief executive officer Mr Bruce Dobson 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.640 director of customer and performance 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:53.480 Greg Cursio 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.719 director of infrastructure Grant 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:01.239 Thorn Director City livability Matt Kelleher 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.519 director of connected communities 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:06.760 Judy Chalkley Chief Financial Officer 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:08.199 Yvette Lawkins 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.919 acting manager of governance and 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:12.560 risk 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:14.759 ? and other members of our 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.360 governance 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.360 team please note that this meeting is 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.479 recorded and streamed live on our 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.360 website in accordance with our live 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.639 streaming of public meetings policy and 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:29.960 so Council does not permit additional 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.680 recordings of the meeting members of the 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:34.520 gallery should note that you may be 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.439 visible in the background of the live 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.879 stream Vision live streaming and 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.520 recording will be suspended if this 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.280 meeting is closed to the public to 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.240 consider confidential business in 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.759 accordance with Section 66 of the Local 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:48.120 Government Act 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:50.960 2020 I remind everyone that opinions 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.000 expressed and statements made during 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.439 this meeting are those of the 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.080 individuals making them and not those of 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.800 council unless set out in a resolution 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:03.000 passed by Council Council accepts no 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.919 liability for any defamatory remarks 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.840 made during a meeting you are 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.159 responsible for your own comments and 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.159 therefore may be personally liable for 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.159 any loss or damage they 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.039 cause I would also like to ask everyone 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.360 present to remain quiet and when others 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:21.879 are addressing the meeting and remind 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.800 the gallery that this is a meeting of 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.439 council and there is no opportunity for 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.719 members of the gallery to participate in 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.400 debate during the meeting questions are 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.639 only permissible during public question 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.199 time moving on to our order of business 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.719 the first item is apologies and requests 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:44.240 for leave of absence we have no 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.360 apologies tonight are there any requests 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.319 for leaves of 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.280 absence I do have a request for a leave 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.479 of absence for the period of the 5th to 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:58.719 the 10th of July so as this relates to 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:00.759 me I will need to declare declare a 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:02.400 conflict of interest and leave the 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.639 chamber whilst Council decides on 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.639 whether to Grant my leave of absence or 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.400 not so I'll hand to our Deputy Mayor 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.560 councilor Grasso thank you 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.560 does any counselor wish to move the 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:40.000 following 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.920 motion read it that councelor Jude Dwight 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.240 be granted leave of absence for the 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.839 period 5th of July to the 10th of July 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.920 2024 moves councelor peer seconded 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.839 Council backer thank you 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:04.040 does any other Council wish to speak to 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.439 this happy to vote on the motion those 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.800 in 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.040 favor we have one two three counselor 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.279 Marcia Timmens-Leitchs councelor orid councelor 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.240 Seymour councelor Cooper councelor Baker 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.879 councelor Pierce counselor Suzanne Laukins 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.560 and myself it's unanimous it's 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.800 carried uh councilor Dwight can return 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.160 to the chamber 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.199 sounds like everyone's happy to give me 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.319 Le get rid of me thank you thank you 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:00.079 councelor CR uh item two ja ations of 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:01.399 conflict of interest now that I've 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.279 missed the first one if there are any 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.120 conflicts of interest to declare tonight 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.399 now is an opportunity to for foreshadow 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:10.279 that conflict I'll also ask that you to 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.360 clear your conflict of interest in full 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.600 later in the meeting immediately before 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.000 the item is 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.399 considered um does anyone have an a 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.079 conflict of interest to 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.800 declare okay I'll foreshadow that I have 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.720 two more 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.519 tonight um a conflict of interest for 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.360 item 8.4 contract 3301 parks and open 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:34.199 space 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.319 maintenance and um I also note that 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.079 there will be an item of urgent business 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.160 tonight relating to reimbursement of 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.600 expenses incurred by me for my 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.439 attendance at a forum in Cambra so I'll 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:48.759 be declaring a material conflict of 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.319 interest for this 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.560 item and there's no other such 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.199 declarations 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.040 tonight item three confirmation of 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:00.519 minutes um is is there any opposition to 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:02.480 the minutes of the council meeting held 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.800 on Monday the 27th of May 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.560 2024 so I'm just going to take a moment 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.680 to note that that was a very tedious 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:14.680 meeting and I have gone through the the 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.399 minutes quite closely and I'm I'm really 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.399 impressed uh so I just want to 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:21.959 acknowledge the team's work and indicate 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.199 that those meaning uh minutes are 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.120 fantastic especially with the load 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:27.720 that's been on the team for various 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.639 reasons this past month there being no 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.959 opposition I declare the minutes to be 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.759 confirmed item four presentations 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.199 petitions and memorials are there any I 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:43.800 don't believe there's any presentations 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.240 this evening are there any 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:50.399 petitions no and any memorials this 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.199 evening no thank you councilors okay we 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.680 move to item five reports by counselors 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.800 uh regarding your activities and our 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:03.240 April H sorry our May council meeting so 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.360 we'll start with you Council lens thank 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.720 you sorry you C thank you 3 Ed Dwight 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.360 you caught me in a sip of my cup of tea 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.279 um thank you I will be submitting a 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.079 report um as well uh but I just wanted 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:20.319 two things that I'd just like to 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.519 highlight um this month um was that I 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.279 received a couple of conversations with 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.279 um residents regarding vegetation over 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.000 foot paaths and I know we all take for 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.639 granted our footpaths in front of our 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:34.840 house we obviously walk on it or drive 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.039 over it every day and we see lots of 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.000 people using them but we need to 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.879 remember um that foot paaths are there 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.360 for uh everyone to get from A to B 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.759 unobstructed um so this and we need to 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:48.679 understand that there's all different 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.799 levels of people riding uh using our 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:53.440 foot paths from young kids uh pushers 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:55.840 parents with pushes young kids then we 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:57.399 have our community which have 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:01.159 disabilities whether visual um physical 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:05.799 disability uh in um scooters that go we 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.720 need to make sure that our foot paths 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.519 are always kept clear of any overhanging 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:15.080 vegetation sorry excuse me or vegetation 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.600 that um is coming from the fence and I 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:18.960 think this is really critical and I want 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:22.279 to shout out to 99% of our community 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:24.000 that are doing so well keeping the 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.080 vegetation so our PA foot paths are 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.720 clear but we do still find and as I've 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:29.879 got some coners 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:31.960 some emails and our team have been 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.200 dealing with them successfully but I 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:35.399 just wanted to shout out that if we 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.480 could all just look at our foot paths um 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.080 help someone out if they're not able to 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.399 do it speak to your neighbor uh but if 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.039 we could all have a concerted effort to 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.600 make sure that um our foot paths are uh 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.519 clear for all pedestrians to use them 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:50.919 unobscured um they are exceptionally 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.320 vital asset which we spend um rate pays 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.039 money maintaining um so yeah if we could 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:58.600 all do our bit to make sure they always 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.320 stay free thank you to the team um 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.440 director kellerer from any complaints 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.120 that do come into community laws they 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.519 are handled um appropriately thank 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.080 you but I also had an opportunity to 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.759 meet with after um The Armenian the 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.360 executive director Michael Kian um he's 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.840 a uh executive director of the Melbourne 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:23.039 Armenian um community and with Council 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:24.799 Pierce and myself we had an opportunity 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.000 to have a community dinner but after 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:29.240 that I um was invited to the Melbourne 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.240 Armenian Genocide commemoration event 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:33.840 and I had a subsequent meeting with 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:35.960 Michael which um the reason I'm 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:37.919 highlighting to you is that we have so 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.799 much diverse community and a 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.159 multicultural Community but it was 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:43.759 really important to have this one-on-one 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:45.440 meeting with Michael to really 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.720 understand the impact of um what this 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.759 this Armenian Community is going through 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.080 there's um a lot of intergenerational 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.919 trauma um in this community because 100 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.200 plus years there was a um un recognized 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.159 genocide uh which they are trying to 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:04.960 recognize but there's a lot of 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.240 displacement um from these communities 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.519 who have found their way to KNX which 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.879 they have found a safe space in KNX to 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.919 live recreate and to be supported which 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.559 they are exceptionally grateful for but 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.039 I think it was really important to 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.200 impart um that they still are suffering 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.639 um trauma as a community from what their 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.840 gener from Generations past most of the 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:32.120 people from um that have resided in KNX 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.639 come from all over Europe from Syria 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.879 from Egypt from Turkey from Italy Cyprus 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:40.240 and this was because they were all 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:42.879 displaced during a genocide to that 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:44.600 place to come and find their forever 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.919 home in noox but I just wanted to shout 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.559 out that um if they are trying to engage 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.039 with us counselors so please if you do 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.120 get an invitation from this team from 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.440 this group um they are in councelor 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.919 Seymour's uh Ward but please reach out 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.240 that would like to really um engage with 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.559 all counselors so then because there's 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.000 residents in all every single Ward that 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.240 is Armenian so please if you get an 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.039 invitation please consider going um and 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.120 supporting this community um they are a 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.399 lovely Community but they do have some 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.080 struggles which it's um important to 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:19.879 understand so then we can support them 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.039 better in our community so thank 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.919 you thank you councelor lains councelor 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.440 peer nothing to report madam may all 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.080 very quiet this month thank you 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.159 councilor PE councilor 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.159 Baker thank you and through you may 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.240 Dwight um just very briefly last week I 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.480 attended the nox sports awards um and 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:44.440 would like to um acknowledge and 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:46.360 congratulate the volunteer nominees and 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.600 award recipients from various clubs who 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.200 attended on the evening it was actually 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.159 a lovely event and it was really 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:53.759 pleasing to see so many 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.000 volunteers uh in attendance and to 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.360 volunteer their time in our community so 00:12:58.440 --> 00:12:59.559 thank you and 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.600 report for the rest thank you thank you 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.600 councilor Baker councilor 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.440 grao thank you may Dwight firstly I 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.440 continue to receive and follow up 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:17.559 representations from residents on a 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:19.519 number of issues ranging from the 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.559 issuing of a Leal license for a proposed 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.519 new bottle shop at Station Street base 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.759 water to waste collection preferences to 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:27.919 trees on nature strips dropping leaves 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.679 and potentially causing slippery 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.279 surfaces I was also delighted to join 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:34.159 the second and third baywater Scout 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.559 group for their fundraising mini market 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:38.080 to help them towards getting to next 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.679 year's Scout jambur in Queensland it was 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:42.720 great to meet the Assistant Scout group 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.200 leader Shona Ashworth um some of the 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.120 scouts themselves and enjoy sausage 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.039 Sizzle lunch uh I was also happy to join 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.200 NOC city council project offices for a 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.000 community engagement session on the nox 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.320 Central Precinct early planning stage to 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.080 hear the community views at the new Knox 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.840 Library uh volunteers also give so much 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.759 to our community mayor Dwight it was 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.080 great to be part of the inaugural KN 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:10.559 city council Community Awards recently 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.320 to see them received well-deserved 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.519 recognition and I wanted to make special 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:16.519 mention of the Lewis Park Reserve park 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:19.039 run who received an award on the night 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:20.840 for their weekly running or walking 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.519 activities every Saturday morning I was 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.320 pleased to catch up over coffee with 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.120 Mary doy MP Federal member for Aston and 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.960 talk about ways that KNX city council 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:31.679 and the federal government can work in 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.840 Partnership to achieve better outcomes 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.600 for KNX I was also excited to join the 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:38.879 club President Nick King and Club 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.519 secretary KL Chandler at the baywater 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.120 striker Soccer Club junior girls gay to 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.159 see some of the teams of this inclusive 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.399 growing club in action it was good to 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.240 see all the improvements supported by 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.120 KNX Council including lights new Turf 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.600 fence and Coach boxers at gu Turner 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:58.399 Reserve I'm a big supporter of local 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.320 sporting clubs and to that end I also 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:02.840 enjoyed being at the comedy night 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:05.360 fundraiser for Fair Park Junior Football 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.480 Club last Saturday at the recently 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.679 opened Fair Park Reserve um it was also 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.799 great to join Jackson Taylor MP and 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:15.759 yourself May Dwight to celebrate the 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.480 progress of the reimagining blind Creek 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.000 project with a side tour of Lewis Park 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.799 and tree planting uh Knox council is 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.360 working with Melbourne Water uh DEA um 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.000 rery W on cultural Heritage Aboriginal 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.440 Corporation and Friends of blind Creek 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:34.879 Bill bong to transform blind Creek and 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.759 Louis Park into a fantastic massive park 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:40.320 with walking trails boardwalks and more 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.679 for the community this Creek used to be 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:45.399 running along big pipes in the ground 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:47.639 that was the science of the past I'm 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.200 very pleased to to tell you may Dwight 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:52.360 as as you well know that having Creeks 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.320 run um at surface level is so much 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:57.799 better for the environment for 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.440 biodiversity and for the community you 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.639 can actually see some ducks behind me on 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.279 my Facebook page and 7,000 plants are 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.720 also being PL planted as part of this 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.759 project uh also as uh councelor Baker 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:12.679 mentioned as one of the counselors on 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:14.320 the KNX reck and Leisure advisory 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:16.720 committee I too was excited to join over 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.559 a 100 members of local sporting clubs at 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:21.720 at last week's fantastic nox city 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.559 council Sport and Leisure Awards we were 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.080 inspired by guest speaker International 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:31.000 so soccer go peer ex Matilda's Melissa 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.960 Barbieri who talks from experience about 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.799 the importance of inclusivity and equal 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.679 access in sport uh congratulations again 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.440 to all the worthy winners and nominees 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.000 and finally it was very informative to 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.279 be at basat a library last Thursday 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.360 evening with Council officers and an 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.360 accredited Community languages 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.759 interpreter to hear directly from the 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.399 community their views on the proposed s 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:59.279 of council land at 58 to 60 Station 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.679 Street baywater there is still time for 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.320 residents to give their views on the 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.359 have your say page on council's website 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.559 or at tomorrow morning's Community 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:10.759 engagement session again at baywater 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:13.039 library from 10 to 12 and that's it for 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.039 me m 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:18.480 Dwight thank you councelor CR 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.400 councelor are we working yes we are 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:27.799 thank you um okay so it's actually been 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.079 a quiet month in the Scot World which is 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.119 actually a relief to report after all 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.440 the issues we've had lately with crime 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.240 and mon Turner South I was going to um 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.519 to mention the sport and Leisure Awards 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.799 as well we've had two counselors mention 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.519 it but I would um like to also say that 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.039 um the event was a fantastic celebration 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:50.960 of our community's dedication to 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.519 promoting health and wellness and it is 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.279 inspiring to see so many passionate 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.519 individuals and clubs recognized for 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.400 their contribution to our community and 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.720 their sport or Leisure group I'd like to 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.759 also extend um my thanks and gratitude 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:09.480 to the reck and Leisure committee the 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.160 ranking panel the governance events and 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.759 Leisure teams here at Knox all of whom 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.960 made the night a very successful night 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.359 and um I've heard all sorts of wonderful 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.720 wonderful reviews um coming out from 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.400 members of our community I'd like to 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.359 also shout out um to the event m see 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.240 Elenor Smith who is also the PA to us 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.519 counselors and the mayor who did an 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.640 amazing job on the night as well um I'd 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:39.400 also like to thank Our Guest note 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.720 speaker keynote speaker Melissa Barbieri 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.880 um who as counselor uh Grasso mentioned 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.480 is an international soccer goalkeeper 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.119 and who plays for Melbourne City her 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:54.519 story um had an amazing um impact on the 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.599 room and was very 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.079 inspiring um I'd like to extend and my 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:00.920 congratulations of course to all of the 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.160 recipients but also those who were 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.359 nominated because we know that um 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:09.599 everybody who is nominated is absolutely 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:12.160 um outstanding and give so much back to 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.440 their their clubs and their communities 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.279 and um I know being a member of the 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.039 panel you just want to give an award to 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:20.640 every single person that's listed and 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:22.680 nominated but that's not how these 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.640 things work so um it was great just to 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:27.559 have a number of um well we actually had 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:29.640 an over subscriber 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:35.359 um uh um Awards um application to rank 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.359 this year and it was fantastic to see so 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.319 many people active within our community 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.119 so thank you to everybody involved the 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:46.279 night was a fantastic success 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.440 thanks thank you councelor Cooper 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:49.599 councelor 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.440 Seymour thank you through you Madame 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.039 mayor I will submit a report uh before I 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.920 share my tach on uh War update I would 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.119 just like to acknowledge that we have um 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.240 former three-time mayor and 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:07.799 long-standing counselor in the gallery 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.319 in the past we have acknowledged um when 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.359 we have had them so welcome um Karen 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.880 Orin so just acknowledging that you are 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.559 here thank you um I'm just going to 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:24.079 touch on a couple of things so uh waste 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:27.559 waste and waste as my colleagues know um 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.440 I have um I do go back and forth with 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.680 the community in terms of of doing um 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.559 pul surveys checking Community sentiment 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.920 so on so that has continued since our 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.559 last meeting I thank everybody who is 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.079 engaged with my recent post um I also 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.720 thank people who have um taken the time 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.480 to message me and private email me 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.279 giving me feedback it really helps shape 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.920 um perspective as to the broader nox's 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.920 community knocks community's feelings 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.680 about what's working and not working so 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.000 um I am thrilled that people engage with 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.359 me and keep it up regardless of if it's 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.599 um good bad or ugly I prefer to have 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.680 that dialogue um with you than not have 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:17.079 it at all um so thank you for that and 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:18.319 that will help shape some of my 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.079 conversation later tonight uh the other 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.000 thing I'm hearing quite a bit of as well 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.200 is the condition of our roadsides now we 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.640 know um often this isn't a council issue 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.799 get a bit blurred around the 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:32.880 responsibility thinking it's Council 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:34.880 when in actual fact the the maintenance 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:38.119 of um our main road median strips and 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.599 Center 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.640 um median strips I'm going to call them 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.240 um think it's Council but it's actually 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.200 Department of Transport or Vic roads and 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.240 with the weather that we've been having 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.359 you can just see the weeds have grown 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:55.680 again um you drive through my ward and 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:57.759 you've got some weeds that are nearly I 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:00.480 don't know 3/4 of a meter tall um and it 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.400 just looks terrible so to those 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.440 residents reaching out to me and saying 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.839 um how tardy the municipality looks and 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.000 and they're not happy I absolutely 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:14.000 Concur and the team try their hardest to 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:17.559 Lobby Department of Transport however 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.200 they've got their budget constraints as 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:21.440 well they work on different cycles and 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.720 they hear the same feedback from other 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.359 municipalities um so we're just part of 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.400 the process squeaky wheel keep um 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.839 bantering onto them to try and get it 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:35.319 improved uh youth crime is an ongoing 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:36.960 issue I hear about so they're probably 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.519 the core main issues one thing I do want 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:41.680 to touch on and draw people's attention 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.359 to there was an announcement last week 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:46.480 um from the state government regarding 00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:49.480 some planning reform um they have 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.359 indicated that KNX by 2052 I think it's 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.880 52 not 51 um needs to take on an 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.839 additional 45 ,000 dwellings given we 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.680 currently have 65,000 dwellings if you 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.720 imagine um what that potentially is 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.279 going to look like when we don't have a 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.319 lot of um open Green Field development 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:16.839 like cities like KC and so on uh that 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:19.160 really is about pushing this 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.519 municipality to have greater infill or 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.200 greater density going up and um the 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.160 reason why I'm raising it tonight is 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.359 that our Council has been given some 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.000 really tight deadlines to turn around 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.119 some feedback to the state government as 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.279 other municipalities have but the 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.920 general public can also put in feedback 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.880 um 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.640 so I'm thinking about the best way that 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.279 the community can access that 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:51.839 email look on my Facebook page tomorrow 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:53.480 I'll publish it there and I'll cover it 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:55.079 in my word report as well thank you 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.319 fabulous excellent have you got the 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.240 email address for for them to website 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.319 awesome thank you um you know I always 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.640 bang on about overdevelopment being 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:08.880 inappropriate for nox I think we do need 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.160 to do our share however we don't have 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:14.759 the road infrastructure or the general 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.279 infrastructure to support what looks 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.039 like being an additional 120,000 minimum 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.559 population growth um it's just 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.680 unreasonable so we do need to to manage 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.440 our feedback finally big Ray Harrah 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:31.640 celebration from me jumping up and down 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.599 if I could do a happy dance um I would I 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:36.920 am so thrilled to 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.720 finally after 12 long years um that we 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.839 deliver Stanford Park um the Stanford 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.759 Park project is now done complete the 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.440 wetlands have been opened it is 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.400 absolutely fantastic and I encourage 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.839 everyone to get down there go for a walk 00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:56.759 um and sus it out it's only going to get 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.799 better and better thank you 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.039 thank you councilor Seymour I will um 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.119 apologize for not acknowledging former 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.200 mayor um Karen Orin in the gallery 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.599 tonight um and remind counselors feel 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:11.720 free to direct that through the chair um 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:13.359 at the commencement of the meeting I was 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.759 probably more concerned about being a 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:16.440 Jack In The Box tonight with a few 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.079 conflicts of interest to manage uh so 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.000 thank you for that we'll go online 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.759 counselor or 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.519 sorry MWI I'll find the right button um 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.799 I will be submitting a report tonight I 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.160 think all has been said on some of uh 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:39.960 the attendances I just wanted to 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.279 acknowledge um you know the work behind 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.119 the scenes for our sports awards um I 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.960 would uh just like to note the har in 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.960 the room and it's something that you 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.480 know you can't orchestrate uh but the 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.319 officers did such a wonderful job um 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:56.799 behind the scenes setting it all 00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:58.519 together so I just want to put my thanks 00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.400 to the officers um but also to the you 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.039 know the really friendly um excitable 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:05.640 people in the room who just made it such 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.839 a wonderful night so that's it for me 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.279 thank you thank you councelor ID 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.720 councelor Tim Le um thank you MWI I've 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.279 actually submitted my report already 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:18.680 through I'll let it stand with that no 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.319 problem thank 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.279 you I've neglected to inform you that we 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.119 also have a special guest in our chamber 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.720 tonight um we have MAA uh who I met um 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.559 in the ch um in our foyer she's from 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.000 Ferry uh Ferry Gully North Primary 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.200 School um and she's here attending our 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:43.039 um H our Civic event tonight so I just 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.319 wanted to let you know Matilda hiding 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:50.400 from me Matilda stand up or hi Matilda 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:51.519 thank you 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.160 Matilda fabulous thank you all right 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.079 thank you counselors um I I 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.000 will mention that the uh the events have 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.359 quietened a little I think with the 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:04.920 change of weather there still has been a 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:06.759 lot on but fortunately there's been a 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:08.160 little bit of a breather for me to be 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.240 able to do some more one-on-one meetings 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.559 with people about various issues um cost 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.519 of living food relief challenges the 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.279 appearance of nox those kind of things 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.960 have already come up tonight I thank 00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.119 Council sore for raising the house in 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.880 targets that were announced last week um 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.319 and I do think that they seem to be 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.160 getting more traction in the community 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.359 then plan for Victoria which was 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.799 announced earlier this year I have 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.480 received a number of emails and 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.960 correspondents um on what people have 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.400 described described as the absurdity of 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.440 what's proposed now um councilor SEO put 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.119 it into figures we have 61,000 63,000 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.960 housing uh 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.920 residences in nox um and they're 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.160 proposing an additional 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.440 47,000 so the numbers are huge um 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.279 acknowledging though that other uh 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.480 Council areas in our region have 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.240 actually got higher targets than that to 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.839 try and Achieve um and what I'm hearing 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.319 the concern that I'm hearing is not a um 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.759 not in my backyard concern it's rather 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.240 the impact on our roads on our drainage 00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.319 on our schools on our reserves on our 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.599 community 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.079 infrastructure everyone is questioning 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.440 how on Earth is this possible I think 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.200 people have been quite struck by the 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.440 immensity of the targets and like me 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.880 unable to see how they can practically 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:32.920 be 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.440 achieved um and that's aside from the 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.359 fact that they do rely almost completely 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.640 on a developer Market that we just don't 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.839 currently have for various 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.359 reasons consultation on the housing 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.960 targets is um through the engaged 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.720 Victoria website so if you look up 00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.880 engaged Victoria immediately it will say 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:55.599 uh what's the first thing that pops up 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.559 help us shape the the future for 00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:58.920 Victoria 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.680 um and if you scroll down you can find 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.640 out about the housing targets and um and 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.720 engage with that there uh opens I think 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.599 it's already open um open until the end 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.359 of August and the plan for Victoria 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.759 consultation which was due to close has 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.000 also been extended to coincide um with 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.160 that consultation 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.559 phase also last week the local 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.599 government reforms was passed in the 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.079 upper house uh last Wednesday with local 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.960 government Victoria now looking to 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.720 engage on the counselor code of conduct 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.799 and the model governance rules so that's 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.640 um within the sector and anyone else who 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:41.839 wants to uh look at that but that 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.359 consultation is open until July 17th so 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.119 really short turnaround on on that there 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.200 is work being done between governance 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.000 teams across regions within the sector 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.880 on both of these items and I'm really 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.119 grateful for their expertise and and 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.400 commitment to seeking good outcomes for 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.160 counselors and Council alike as these 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.160 reforms uh keep evolving and very 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.759 quickly before we get to um government 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.079 uh caretaker period as well so for all 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.000 of my other events and delegate 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.559 delegates I will submit a 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.279 report okay we'll go to uh planning 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.519 matters 6.1 report of planning 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.799 applications decided under delegation 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:31.119 from the 1st of May 24 to the 31st of 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:31.920 May 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.319 2024 would a councelor like to move a 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.799 motion councilor 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.279 Baker and is there a second for that 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.119 motion councelor Cooper thank you 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.240 councelor Baker would you like to speak 00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.119 just very briefly this is a report for 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.519 an oding 52 planning applications under 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.880 de delegation for the month of 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.359 May thank you councelor B councelor 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.920 Cooper would you like to speak okay with 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.400 any other counselor councilor loin 00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:00.200 through you mayor Dwight I just there 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.640 was three items on this um in this 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.640 report that I just wanted to um 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.440 highlight the first was there's a um a 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:12.200 use of a land so a change of um land uh 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.319 like building use uh welcome a new 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.240 business to uh Mountain Gate they're um 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.960 a reform pilates studio and I can also 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.119 see on Facebook that they're supporting 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.279 um a local football club as well so it's 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.839 really nice to see a one less shop empty 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.039 in um the the mountain gate shops um 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.839 with our two an or three anchor stores 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.160 our banks leaving uh there a a real loss 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.880 for mountain gate but it's nice to see 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.079 some new um businesses come in um the 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.680 next one was um in Chandler your award 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.960 uh mayor Dwight the construction of the 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.640 small second dwelling now I just 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:46.960 highlighted this one noting that there 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.039 was changes in our planning regulations 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:50.759 where you could put a small second 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.240 dwelling on your block and I've um 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.400 spoken to the planning team we're not 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.839 seeing that as a huge thing I think we 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.000 said there was only two or three um 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.759 planning or like permits come through at 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.160 the moment so I know that was touted as 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.640 that big thing use your backyard to put 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.680 in extra dwelling more houses and so 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.119 forth but we're not actually seeing that 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.400 happening on the ground as at the moment 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.480 so I just wanted to alert you to that 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.640 but because I'm a um you know I love my 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.519 bike I was alerted to um on page 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.200 eight um KNX city council uh KNX city 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.440 council knock shopping center Westfield 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.359 sorry we have bike hoops here we have 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.279 our um our little shelter as well um you 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.720 would see that there's uh been a waiver 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.880 on bicycle parking requirements um I 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.839 also uh just wanted to follow up that 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.640 and the reason why um the there was a 00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.839 gymnasium or a business that was on the 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.440 inside that's coming out onto the 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.640 outside properties on um so 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.839 relocating um and it's a gymn gymnasium 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.240 and they would require some bike 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.079 facilities but they're going along 00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.519 Melbourne road which is the the road 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.960 that um where you enter into Aldi and 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.359 the old osmosis entrance there is 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.160 probably about 15 B coups on that 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.839 Melbourne side which is the park side so 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.119 they've already got adequate bike um 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.440 infrastructure so I can actually see why 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.599 we do not require any further bike um 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.519 infrastructure on that side but um I 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.480 would like to shout out to westfields if 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.960 you're listening um I would I love the B 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.319 coups but um if there could be some B 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.799 CPS on the bwood Highway side of the um 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.160 shopping center that would be excellent 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.000 um at each of the entrances um that 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.119 would be very much appreciated so I just 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.680 wanted to highlight why those things 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.680 were in our planning so thank 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.359 you thank you council lains with any 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.519 other councel would like to 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.279 speak all right uh I have a question 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.039 with regards to the second dwelling item 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.400 that Council loin brought up uh my 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.640 understanding was that permit were not 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.079 required uh do people need to check in 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.359 with Council to find out if they require 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:04.599 a 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.799 permit uh in response Madame mayor 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.519 through you um in many circumstances 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:10.960 where overlays or other planning 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.519 controls don't apply per planning 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.559 permits are not required but building 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.719 permits are required so the the numbers 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.559 that councilor Lain referred to so far 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.280 we've only had two building permits 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.760 issued for small second dwellings and 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.400 the application that um councilor lens's 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.800 also o referred to is in the Foothills 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.599 area so more planning controls apply and 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.199 they do often trigger planning permits 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:35.840 for small second dwellings in those 00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.119 circumstances so it is important that 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:39.679 residents or anyone looking to build a 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.639 small second dwelling does still make 00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:43.159 inquiries with 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.719 Council thank you for the clarification 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.400 director K councilor Baker would you 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.519 like your right of comply I'll now put 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.599 the motion all those in 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.519 favor that motion is carried 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.039 6.2 report in response to notice of 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.960 motion number 142 green areas and Rural 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.280 strategy Heritage recommendations would 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.400 a councelor like to move a 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.280 motion councelor Baker according to the 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.400 recommendation would any other C uh 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.000 sorry do I have a second for that 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.800 motion councelor Seymour thank you 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.480 councelor Baker would you like to speak 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.280 thank you and through you may Dwight 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:24.800 just like to thank the officers for 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.440 preparing and this detailed and 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:27.880 informative report for following a 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:29.519 notice of motion that I raised earlier 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.920 this year uh the purpose of this notice 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.320 of motion was to seek further 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:35.679 information focusing on an update of the 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.400 nox Heritage study from 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.000 1993 assessing sites identified and 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.920 recommended adopted by the green areas 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.400 and Rural strategy known as G and 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.239 including the Avenue of Honor situated 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:47.280 in 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.360 listfield some points from this report 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.719 um uh include an update needed on the 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.639 city of Knox Heritage study from 1993 00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:57.920 that needs updating to to include 00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.880 Aboriginal and post European her 00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:02.280 Heritage sites in the Heritage overlay 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.639 of the nox planning scheme funding 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.000 issues past attempts to secure funding 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.360 for this update have been unsuccessful 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.400 an estimated cost for new assessments is 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.719 in uh is approximately 1.5 million 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.519 excluding costs for necessary planning 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.639 scheme amendments the Avenue of Honor 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.320 which is located on listfield road and 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.480 list field the Avenue of Honor um also 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.519 comes under the code h43 in the report 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.239 needs an updated Heritage citation y 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.320 Rangers Council manages the existing 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.639 trees while updating or removing the h43 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.639 from nox planning scheme would cost 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.639 approximately between $2,000 and 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.880 $110,000 for the change the Thematic 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.159 environmental history TZ and cultural 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.880 values assessments CVA these assessments 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:49.880 are crucial crucial for guiding future 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.440 Heritage uh initiatives particularly for 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.840 Aboriginal cultural heritage however 00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:56.400 current funding and planning do not 00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.039 cover these initiatives 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.519 and finally the challenges recognizing 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.000 that the importance of updating and 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:03.840 protecting Heritage sites including 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.159 those from G's recommendations the lack 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.320 of funding and in inte integration in 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.039 City strategy work program presents 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.159 significant obstacles so I acknowledge 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:14.960 the importance of the recommendations 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.239 outlined from the officers and 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.440 appreciate their time and the challenges 00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.320 faced as outlined in the report and note 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.360 the report as table tonight thank 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:29.519 you thank you councilor V councilor s 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.800 thank you three Madame mayor uh thank 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.679 you councilor Baker for raising the 00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.840 notice of motion in the first place I 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.079 think sometimes when we have um policies 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:41.199 or positions that are outstanding for 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.320 such a long period of time and we 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.679 complain and say these things are 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.599 collecting dust why did we even do them 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:49.760 in the first place so the fact that the 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.119 team have gone back um and provided a 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.920 robust explanation of the lay of the 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.559 land where we're at um and also the 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.239 challenges is why it hasn't progressed 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.199 any further um it provides absolute 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.719 Clarity the reality is and I I've been 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.960 on Council when this has come um to 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.800 budgets multiple times is that the 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.760 Quantum of cost du the work is just so 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.159 significant and when you Reon stack that 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.159 against other Council priorities it's 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.480 just really hard to justify so whilst 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.760 strategically it would be advantageous 00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:27.880 to have 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.800 um this report 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.599 updated in Practical terms um it's not 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.079 going to change lives or livelihoods or 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.440 livability of our municipality directly 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.159 and when the budget's so tight we just 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.880 can't afford to do it so um you know 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.119 perhaps we might be able to look at the 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:51.519 Avenue of honor and see what can be done 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.760 there whether we can um work closely 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.320 with Y Rangers uh to see if there's some 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.760 improvement in terms of the tree 00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.039 management um I would hate to see those 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.719 trees die um but we just need to accept 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.760 that right now this is not something 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.800 that we can prioritize from a funding 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.280 perspective or a resource perspective 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:13.840 thank 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.599 you thank you counselor zimo would any 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.920 other counselor like to speak to this 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.239 item or any 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.199 questions no okay 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.920 um I do have a question if that's okay I 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.119 note that the recommendation is simply 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.360 to note the response from officers in 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.599 relation to the notice of motion and 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.400 note that further investigation of 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.960 Heritage overlay schedule 43 will be 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:44.800 under taken as part of a future 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.800 Correctional planning scheme Amendment 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.440 work program so for the purpose of the 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.679 decision tonight is there any Financial 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.559 implication for 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.800 Council through you madam mayor in 00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.440 response no there is not the actual work 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.079 needs to be undertaken undertaken 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:02.840 predominantly by Yara Rangers shy 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.440 Council because that's where the error 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.760 is um it'll be officer time working in 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.400 with the officers at yo Rangers um if 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:11.440 for some reason there is a correctional 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.599 amendment required on the KNX side um it 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.440 can potentially be bundled with other 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.039 changes to the planning scheme that are 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.920 Correctional in 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.920 nature thank you director ker um I will 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.679 just indicate that um at the moment I'm 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.239 really comfortable given uh as councilor 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.280 Simo said the um the pressures on the 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:33.920 budget and the situation that we're in 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.079 the fact that this has come to council a 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.679 few times in the past uh and when it's 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.960 on balance considering all of the other 00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.480 requests and um demands on our budget uh 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.639 it's a it is one that ranks lower in 00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.400 priority um but we do have a fullback 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.400 position of retaining Heritage and other 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.800 overlays such as significant landscape 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:56.679 for many of the sites that have been 00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.119 identified 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.119 um with no further assessment required 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.199 other sites sit with the state or 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.719 federal government and at a time as 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.159 we've talked about when the demand for 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.400 food relief is up 40% when people can 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.159 barely pay their mortgages let alone 00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.760 their rates this work um can't be 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.719 justified at this point to progress 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.360 further recognizing that it can be a 00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.079 future conversation um for Council 00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.960 councelors to consider in budget 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.840 processes um I guess to better 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:29.519 appreciate the potential benefit I'd 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.679 like to see it identified as an action 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.039 in a f future inter sorry iteration of 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.039 our reconciliation action plan so where 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.400 there's some um sites identified uh for 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.280 um assessment from a cultural heritage 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:48.599 perspective I'd like to see that as an 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.559 action in our reconciliation action plan 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:53.199 uh so that we have a clear policy 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.119 position to undertake that work um and 00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.440 to justify the ation of budget and while 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.079 that's not there um I don't actually see 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.440 uh a good position for Council to take 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.280 on this tonight so councelor Baker would 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.800 you like to okay I'll now put the motion 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.800 all those in 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.360 favor that motion is carried sorry that 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.199 was unanimous for those on the 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.679 screen item seven public Question Time 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.960 Council allocates 30 minutes to consider 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.119 questions from the community I'd like to 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.159 take this opportunity to remind everyone 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.000 that the new deadline for submitting 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.400 public questions is 12:00 p.m. on the 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.199 day of the meeting Council has also 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.800 installed a public question time box at 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.000 the Civic Center inside the front doors 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.280 I'm sure you all saw that as you walked 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.880 in I'd like to take the opportunity to 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:53.440 remind everyone that public question 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:55.719 time is not your only opportunity to 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.920 engage with Council if you have 00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.480 questions I would encourage you to 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.559 consider contacting counsel through our 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.559 usual channels including through our 00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.119 customer service team or via our website 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.119 I would also encourage everyone to make 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.719 the most of our have your say page to 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.480 access information about current 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.719 projects and to submit questions or 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.840 provide feedback on them our protocols 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.800 for submitting and considering public 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.760 questions are set out in council's 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.039 governance rules which include an 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.400 opportunity for submitters to Lodge a 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.760 maximum of two questions and for 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.639 submitters to speak to their questions 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.480 for up to 2 minutes copies of all 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:36.639 questions submitted are circulated to 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.599 counselors in full inclusive of any 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.239 commentary before we move to questions 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.239 I'll remind submitters that this is an 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.440 opportunity to introduce the questions 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.159 you have already submitted and not an 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.159 opportunity to participate in debate or 00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.480 an opportunity to change or add to the 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.559 questions that you have already 00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.400 submitted by choosing to participate 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.639 submitters acknowledge that your name 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.000 submissions and your images are being 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:06.920 captured and may be broadcast on the 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.480 live stream and 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.039 recording I also remind you that you are 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:12.679 personally responsible for your own 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.119 comments and therefore may be personally 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.159 liable for any loss or damage they 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.800 cause I would also ask that respect be 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.920 afforded to all participants and that 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:24.960 the gallery remains silent while people 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.960 are speaking we'll now move on to our 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.320 questions question one is from Robert 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.840 Mason Robert are you with us 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:38.039 tonight would you like to come up Robert 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:39.760 would you like me to read your question 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.880 or would you like to read 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:43.800 it 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.199 okay in the spirit 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.119 of in the spirit of transparency will 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.039 Council make public information relating 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.280 to the profile makeup of the nox 00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.719 Community panel me sorry nox Community 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.119 panel members selected to contribute to 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:02.960 the development of the council and 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.119 health and well-being plan I breakdown 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.599 of membership from each Ward age group 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.239 profile and gender mix Robert would you 00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.360 like to speak to your 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.880 question happy okay well thanks for 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.159 coming up it's great to see you I'll 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.960 direct your question to our director of 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.599 customer and performance 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.920 CIO thank you through you mayor thanks 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.480 good question Mr Mason really appreciate 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.920 it uh so yes so we strongly believe in 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.880 transparency as part of the council uh 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.320 planning process uh with regards to the 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.000 delivery panel formed as part of the 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.199 2529 Council and health and well-being 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.519 plan an engagement report is actually 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.400 currently being prepared by the external 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.159 consultant who will be who supported the 00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.519 process and that will be made public 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.000 once it is made available to council uh 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.280 so that will include participant 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.559 demographics of age gender suburb 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:58.239 household type past par ipation years 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.159 connected to nox information about 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.639 typically underrepresented cohorts as 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.400 well as any insights and outcomes of the 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.760 sessions themselves so just to give you 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.800 initial Insight we actually received 467 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.280 expressions of interest to participate 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.360 in the community panel uh we ended up 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.000 with 56 participants selected for the 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:18.800 panel um although there were some last 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.519 minute cancellations and some unexpected 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.039 illnesses uh which affected the numbers 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:25.360 at the sessions themselves um which 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.559 entirely appropriate for um anticipated 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.679 in programs like this I guess the large 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.000 amount of Interest meant that the 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:32.960 selected participants closely 00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:37.400 represented the demographics of the KNX 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.760 Community thank you Greg and you have a 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:42.559 second question which I can rate if 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:43.400 you'd 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.360 like all right further to that first 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.480 question are any members of the selected 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:50.880 nox Community panel declared candidates 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.519 for the upcoming nox council 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.280 elections Greg thank you through you may 00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.440 uh so we are currently not aware of 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.599 anyone from the panel to have declared 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.559 as candidates for the upcoming local 00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.960 government elections also one of the 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.519 selection criteria for participation in 00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.320 the community panel was that applicants 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.840 were not a current Member of Parliament 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.920 government thank 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.199 you okay thank you rob for your 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.719 questions 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.519 tonight uh next two questions are from 00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.599 car or would you like to come and speak 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:30.840 Karen would you like me to read your 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.920 questions or would you like to do 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.719 that 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.599 okay the first question is will KNX 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.639 Council keep the annual lease for the 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.280 land on our Scout Halls to $10 per anom 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.159 and secondly we'll Council wave the $250 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.599 fire service Services Levy per site that 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.000 Scouts are now being asked to pay would 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:54.639 you like to speak to your questions 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.000 thanks Karen 00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.360 address the to address mayor and 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.000 counselors and our question is directed 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.679 to the mayor and 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.920 counselors we want to make you aware of 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.320 the concerns of the KNX Scout family the 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:15.039 KNX Scout Association has 14 Halls on 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.719 sites in nox of which 13 require new 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.360 leases during those recent discussions 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.960 we're advised that the pepper corn rent 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.119 of $10 will increase to 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.000 $450 per site from the 1st of July 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.920 2024 in addition we were advised that it 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.440 was a council direction that we are also 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:39.599 charg 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:43.559 $250 per site for the fixed portion of 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.480 the fire Services Levy a charge that has 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:49.039 not been imposed before the state 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.000 revenue office advised that from F July 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.920 1st that this is set to rise to $267 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.679 even at 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.559 $250 this brings the total cost for 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.880 Scouts from $10 per anom to more than 00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.639 $9,100 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.280 perom a cost which will be passed on to 00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.679 the parents of Scouts across 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.519 knock Council has acknowledged that the 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.519 Halls are owned by Scouts and our leases 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.519 are for the land on which the Halls sit 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.079 with no maintenance provided by Council 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.960 hence the peppercorn rent because no 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.280 maintenance is 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.679 provided yet other community groups 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.519 paying the same amount for Council 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.599 buildings and land have maintenance 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.079 provided by the council and inequitable 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.079 situation unlike the local clubs we do 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.320 not provide Our Youth Services just for 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.360 a 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.440 season but weekly activities throughout 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.000 the year by a group of dedicated ated 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.039 and caring volunteer leaders 100% 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.760 volunteers we have more than 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.599 3,000 youth leaders and families 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.079 involved in scouting in KNX many of whom 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.360 we know are currently challenged with 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.719 cost of living pressures to the point 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.480 where they're delaying activities 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.199 because they can't afford a minimal fee 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.400 of $5 and that happened 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.360 recently we respectfully ask that 00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.480 Council reconsider imposing these 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.239 extraordinary increases to Scouts and 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.800 apply for a waiver of the fire service 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:38.519 levy on our behalf we have a meeting 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.480 tomorrow morning with your sorry 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.079 tomorrow afternoon with your staff but 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.159 you are adopting your Council budget 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:46.880 tonight and we thought that you should 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.000 know this thank you for your 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.760 consideration thank you thank you Karen 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.039 and thank you to those attending on this 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:57.639 question tonight um I do want to 00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.400 acknowledge that both counselors and 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.039 Council sincerely appreciate the role 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.400 that Scouts play in the nox 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.119 Community with regard to Future lease 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.960 arrangements and fire Services levies 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.400 there has not been any decision of 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.280 council mate Council officers are 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.239 currently meeting with representatives 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.920 from scouts Victoria to discuss the 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.960 future lease Arrangements in advance of 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.800 an officer report being presented to a 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:27.119 council meeting 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.280 for a decision to be made so while we're 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.280 endorsing the budget tonight there is no 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.000 change to the lease arrangements okay 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:37.960 thank you so much for your interest and 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.639 your advocacy thank you for bringing 00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:41.960 this to our attention um the report and 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:43.960 recommendations will be included in the 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.440 agenda prior to the council meeting as 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:48.400 per our usual practice I'm not exactly 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.960 sure which Council that meeting that 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.639 will be um but you'll definitely know 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:54.920 when it is all right thank 00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.599 you and question question five from 00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.119 Barbara is Barbara here 00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.840 shight hi Barbara would you like me to 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.719 read your lengthy 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.599 question 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.679 or okay let's do 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.760 that uh thank you may Dwight and thank 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:16.000 you to councelor Seymour and councelor 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.039 Dwight for raising the issue about the 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.599 housing because that's what my question 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.719 is about um I recently became aware of a 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.440 housing proposal for the 9 hectares of 00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.079 of land on which this Council building 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:32.920 sits and the nox um Associated buildings 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.320 um and that proposal was for 3,000 to 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.880 5,000 homes on this property um 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.559 discussed since 2016 under State targets 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.440 I believe I'm now aware thanks to the 00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:48.760 council's circulation of information 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:50.719 about the state government's plan for 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.639 housing targets across Victoria that the 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.840 2051 draft KNX housing targets are 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.719 47,000 additional to the current 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.400 63,800 houses across 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.239 KNX all the inner Metro councils have 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.480 targets that come close to doubling 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.199 their housing stock or even more however 00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:14.800 this isn't so um serious in the regional 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.920 areas this astronomical increase will 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.320 impact on infrastructure Services 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.159 drainage exit roads into main thorough 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:26.480 fares education Etc 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.920 whilst Council wants residents to 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.880 consult there is an act is there an this 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.119 is the question whilst Council wants 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.639 residents to consult is there an actual 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.360 plan to ensure that as many residents as 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.360 possible are informed and included in 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:43.079 the 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.440 consultation I'm sure many residents 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:46.800 would be totally unaware of this 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.440 enormous proposal whilst their opinions 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.679 are crucial about the city in which they 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.159 live and have come to love as this is 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.400 the largest proposal I've seen in the 00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.800 many decades that I've resided in KNX 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.119 I'm ke Keen to see what council will do 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.679 proactively to raise awareness and 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.599 feedback thank you thank you Barbara and 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.960 you're certainly doing your bit as well 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:11.800 thank you I'll direct your question to 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.320 director 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.960 Kell through you Madame mayor thank you 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.000 for your question Barbara which covers a 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:20.679 number of topics including planning work 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.239 council is undertaking for the nox 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.320 Central Precinct along with the state 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.519 government's plan for Victoria and the 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:28.519 draft housing targets that the Victorian 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.119 government has issued for each Council 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.440 across the state and my answer is 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:33.800 probably going to be longer than your 00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:36.679 question so be bear with me the 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.719 Victorian government is preparing a new 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:40.199 strategy to guide the growth of 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.159 Melbourne and the state under his plan 00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.320 Victoria and the premier and Minister 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.199 for planning have made uh recent 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:49.320 announcements via the media about draft 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:50.880 housing targets the state government 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.239 plans to establish for each Council area 00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.760 across Victoria this work follows the 00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:57.480 government's housing statement from last 00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.960 year that is planning for 800,000 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:01.639 additional dwellings across Victoria 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.519 over the next 10 years plan Victoria 00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.159 extends that to establish housing 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.440 targets for each Council area to 00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.320 accommodate growth up to 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.960 2051 so those targets um that talked 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.159 about now are now for 25 years as you've 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:19.760 identified the government has set a 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.360 draft Target of an additional 47,000 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.800 dwellings within KNX by 2051 which be 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:27.840 which would be a total of 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.119 11,100 dwellings representing a 74.5% 00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.440 increase in dwellings in KNX by 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.599 2051 that equates to around 1880 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.480 dwellings in nox per year over the next 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.280 25 years the state government is 00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.199 undertaking consultation across the 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.199 community and with local councils until 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.400 the end of August similar to The 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.480 Community Council has received limited 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.519 information about what actions or 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.519 recommendations will form part of plan 00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:58.800 Victoria or how the housing targets 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.199 would derive for KNX it is understood 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:02.719 that the government has undertaken some 00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.119 form of modeling across Victoria and the 00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.000 council may be provided with further 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.519 information in the coming weeks Council 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:11.159 will be W making a submission through 00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.480 the current engagement process based on 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.039 its previously adopted positions on 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.840 Urban Development housing transport 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.719 sustainability and economic growth a 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.400 media release to raise awareness about 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:23.320 the new draft housing Target set by the 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.280 state government and plan Victoria have 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.159 been issued VIA council's website and E 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:29.519 newsletter and the community is 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.119 encouraged to participate in the process 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.559 and the consultation process with the 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.880 link to the government engaged Victoria 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.559 page provided on council's website 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.079 within the news article that you 00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.320 mentioned so Council Seymour I think 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.400 might be sharing this on on her Facebook 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.840 page but it's also accessible via the 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.199 news page on council's 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.760 website as identified within its council 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.559 plan KNX council is also at the start of 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:57.719 the process of reviewing its housing 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.159 strategy developed in 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.639 2015 which will guide future decisions 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.199 about housing in KNX Council will 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.719 undertake extensive engagement with the 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:09.639 KNX community and other stakeholders to 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.960 seek feedback as this strategy is 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.440 developed over the next two years this 00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:16.840 is the key local strategy that council 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.719 is responsible for that guides how and 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.880 where development occurs across KNX if 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.119 indeed a housing Target is established 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.000 by the Victorian government and it's all 00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.519 very woolly still at the moment this is 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.559 the strategy that works through how that 00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:33.639 is addressed for KNX and that's 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:35.280 something that Council controls and 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:36.519 that's something that Council will have 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.960 its own engagement process for with the 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:40.079 nox 00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.239 community so at this stage the 00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:44.000 engagement process is being run by the 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.159 state government for that across the 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:48.559 state as you've mentioned council is 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.280 also planning for the future development 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.039 of the KNX Central precinct which is the 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.239 council land between bwood Highway and 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.119 Lewis park next to Westfield Knox 00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.800 future plans will feature green spaces 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.760 for recreation and passive open space 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.159 along with a mix of Housing and 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:03.199 employment 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.440 opportunities it's an important Precinct 00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.960 because of its location and size and as 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.920 nox nox's key Activity Center it will be 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.079 um primarily for high density housing to 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.920 help create a new heart for noox the 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.159 future population is expected to be 00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.119 between 3 to 5,000 people rather than 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.320 dwellings and Council will plan for 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.000 services to support the future popul 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:27.440 potion ensuring development is 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:29.880 sustainable and high quality planning 00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.840 for nox Central supports council's own 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:34.039 housing strategy along with responding 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.599 to state government housing 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:42.360 targets thank you Barbara thank you 00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:43.639 director 00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.760 Keller okay and lastly this hasn't come 00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:48.920 through the formal channels but I have 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.840 received a request from Mr Bary warts to 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.039 clarify a comment I made in response to 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:56.039 his question during last month's Council 00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.519 meeting at which time I said removing 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.719 the Pines in the open area at kalunga 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.960 was an action in the 1994 kalunga 00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.039 management plan referencing actions uh 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:11.119 2.3 to 2.7 from the 199 1994 plan 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.559 proceeding these actions the plan notes 00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.840 that the trees planted to open grass 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.159 areas in the daill road Reserve do not 00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:21.239 represent a management problem for the 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:22.960 reserve and can be considered at the 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:25.320 outside the bush land guidelines for the 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:26.719 site 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:28.679 so thank you for bringing that to my 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.239 attention Mr THS I am happy to stand 00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:32.760 corrected with regards to my 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:36.239 interpretation of the 994 actions uh 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.119 whilst acknowledging that those 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:41.320 particular trees are not planted um but 00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:43.199 I would again invite a meeting to 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.519 discuss this issue further thank you 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.360 okay that brings us to the end of public 00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.480 Question Time thank you to our 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:52.719 submitters uh the next item for 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.199 discussion is item eight officers 00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:01.880 reports so 8.1 annual budget 2024 to 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.000 2025 before we proceed with this item it 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.559 should be noted that an error was 01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.639 identified in the attachment to this 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.000 report relating to the 2024 25 fees and 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.599 Tis the error relates to the new 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.679 confirmation Bond fee which was 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.199 incorrectly listed under kindergarten 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.599 Services the confirmation Bond fee 01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.079 should have been listed under Child Care 01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.679 a revised recommendation 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.239 uh has been prepared for by offices for 01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.559 Council it's up on the screen 01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.480 recommending the budget be adopted as 01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:35.880 set out in attachment one to the report 01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.960 subject to this correction being 01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:43.639 made and we can see that in red um 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:47.239 so I would like to move the budget as is 01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.719 tradition for the m to do um tonight do 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.559 I have a second for the 01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.880 motion second the offic recomendation 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.199 thank 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.880 you I want to speak to this one because 01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.000 I've honestly never been so challenged 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.119 in having to deliver a budget um I do 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:09.840 admit that it's the first time that I've 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.880 had to sign my name to a budget as the 01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:14.840 mayor of the city but never before in 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:16.840 this term of council have I experienced 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:18.719 the extent of heartbreaking 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.000 conversations that I've had of late with 01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:24.360 many people people just like those of us 01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:27.199 sitting around the table who are in over 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:28.960 their head for the first time in their 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.559 lives who have more demands on their own 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.360 budgets than ever before who cannot 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:36.719 produce in their small local business 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.559 what they used to produce to be able to 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:41.960 have excess so they could give something 01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:44.719 away because they simply can't afford to 01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:45.880 do 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.880 it uh people who can't see the path 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.199 ahead our budget is a lengthy process 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.840 which we commence back in October the 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.599 ctive effect of five separate interest 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.719 rate rises in the last Financial year 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.559 alone takes a little while to really hit 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.440 and I think for many people that's where 01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:09.519 we're at now pressure on mortgages 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.039 mortgage repayments pressures through 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:14.599 increase in everyday essentials such as 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.559 food and fuel costs and pressure to pay 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.760 utility and services bills insurances 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.519 throw in medical expenses or loss of 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:26.840 income due to illness and it quickly 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.360 takes a household or an individual to 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:30.440 Tipping 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:32.920 Point you can't flick on the radio or 01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.199 read the news now without cost of living 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.360 being discussed there are some that are 01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.880 not yet impacted but there are many in 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.440 nox who are really being hit and hit 01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.679 hard it has made me more aware than ever 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.960 of the demands on council's 01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.039 budget of the many different programs 01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.760 services and projects that people look 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.440 to council to deliver especially as 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.599 Things become Tighter and Tighter in our 01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:01.960 own 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.239 communities remaining financially 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:06.960 sustainable is critically important but 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.159 it is becoming more challenging with 01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:12.119 inflation continuing to rise much higher 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.440 than the rate cap we work hard to fund 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.559 The Staggering number of services we 01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:20.039 deliver while maintaining and improving 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.440 aging infrastructure and delivering new 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.840 facilities for our growing Community 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.480 just trying to make the place look 01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:29.159 decent so that people can be proud when 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:30.280 they come 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.719 home we need to continuously assess our 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.079 current and future services to ensure 01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.360 that they are as sustainable and remain 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.000 affordable for the community whose rates 01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:42.960 we are usted 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.079 with Council continues to prioritize 01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:49.280 which Services it can afford to deliver 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:51.440 alongside facing the capital Works 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.960 program in line with available funds and 01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:58.039 that is what the budget represents at 01:03:58.119 --> 01:03:59.599 this moment in 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:04.199 time so with the the harsh context that 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.039 we are working in in mind I am I am 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:10.119 proud to put this budget forward and to 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.079 have my name on this budget um but I do 01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:14.880 really want to express how difficult 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.159 it's been and how I can open it up at 01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:18.920 any given moment and say have we made 01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:20.519 the right decision have we made the 01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:22.519 right 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:24.960 decision councilor Lain would you like 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.440 to speak 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.199 thank you through you mayor um thank you 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.199 for that um for your um introduction to 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.880 this budget um and knowing that this is 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.079 the last budget of our term this is our 01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.400 fourth one and how fast has it gone and 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:42.840 we have worked diligently um and I'm 01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:44.440 sure we can all attest that we've worked 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.280 diligently with the organization to 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:48.880 ensure that we've had Financial 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:50.760 sustainable principles over the whole 01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:53.760 time and we've done a lot of um 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.239 Prosecuting of costs 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.159 um understanding our financial position 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.559 um we've had to make some challenging 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.440 decisions uh but I'm really proud how we 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.519 have a really strong methodical way of 01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.199 ensuring that we remain a financially 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.920 sustainable um organization that will 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:14.119 serve our 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:17.920 community um I can certainly see in the 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.400 report um and when I think back to how 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.280 do we transparently communicate um to 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:26.239 our community uh you will see a rates 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:27.960 notice we all get a rates notice I get a 01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.039 rates notice so when I think about this 01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.400 um what is on our rates notice and how 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.239 does this document explain um what we 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:37.840 are doing with your rates so in here we 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.519 have our services how much we're going 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:42.119 to be spending on our services uh we 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.679 indicate the um amount of staff that we 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.559 have and there is a reduction in staff 01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.320 um full-time parttime we also 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.960 acknowledges the um our infrastructure 01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:55.599 that we're going to provide in the next 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.119 Financial year of what we would our 01:05:58.199 --> 01:05:59.599 commitment to what we are going to 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.639 deliver for you um making sure that we 01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.239 prioritize our renewals so that the 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:07.679 infrastructure that we currently have is 01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:11.599 going to be uh fit for purpose um and 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:13.840 and usable for everyone in our 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.599 community it also goes um into our 01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:18.920 revenue and rating plan where there's 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.440 actually discusses the advantages and 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.480 disadvantages of how we um uh um 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.159 calculate your rates with the Civ it 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.480 also notes that our fire Services Levy 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.159 which we've heard from in our um in our 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.360 public meeting that this is a is a an 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.719 amount that c the state government asks 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:42.079 that we collect on behalf of the state 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.440 government um Council does not receive 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.400 any of the funds that we collect from 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.679 our community Through the Fire Services 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.880 Levy it all goes back to the state but 01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:54.960 it also outlines um exactly what we are 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.039 what we provide you when we are charging 01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.559 you for your Waste Services which you 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:03.719 will see on a on a separate line so I I 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.199 really um yes it is a lengthy document 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.320 but it really does transparently um 01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.239 provide you with information or on how 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.800 our um how we spend our budget for our 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.079 community um like I said it has been 01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:21.599 certainly challenging uh we're trying to 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.960 make sure we um acknowledge the future 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.480 and if you look at the um at the end we 01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:30.400 do have controls in place and there is 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.079 risk to our financial sustainability 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:36.119 time is up would you like an extension 01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.199 um yes please can I request an extension 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:41.239 Council Baker do I have a second of that 01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:45.280 motion Council AG Gro all those in 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.960 favor that motion is carried thank you 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.440 fellow councilors I just my last Point 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:52.960 um there is we do have a strategic risk 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:54.719 we need to maintain our financial 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:56.039 sustainability 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:57.880 we are at the mercy of the state and 01:07:57.960 --> 01:07:59.840 federal grants that we come in we know 01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:01.599 they are not meeting our needs they are 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:03.559 not going up by uh 01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:07.519 CPI um we also know that we are at um 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:09.480 the mercy of different policy changes 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.239 like the housing policy uh we know that 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:13.920 we've had other funding come through 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.559 through our defined benefits which I'm 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:19.159 sure our um more um long-term councilors 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:20.640 would know that there is an amazing 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.479 amount that we've had to um uh I think 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.840 it was $12 million in a defined benefits 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:27.319 well we are putting in sustainable 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:29.720 practices now so then if that is caught 01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.359 up we do have a reserve for that so I'm 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:33.920 really proud that we are putting things 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.319 forward to make sure that nox stays 01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.159 sustainable for now and into the future 01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.520 thank you for the extension councelor 01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:43.199 thank you councelor loens would any 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.479 other councelor like to speak to this 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.000 item councelor 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.640 Gro thank you mandart I too wanted to 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.560 acknowledge the um um Financial 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:55.880 constraints 01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:57.479 uh that that we've worked under with 01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.720 this budget and uh and the fact that it 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.880 does include as is stated in our report 01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:07.279 um an investment of 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:19.600 125.638 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:23.039 million Capital Works program of which 01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.920 37.4 million is allocated to maintaining 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.279 and renewing the community assets that 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.319 Council lens was talking about because 01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:34.000 we need to maintain those assets so that 01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:37.640 they are um up to standard and they can 01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:39.279 continue to be used for the purpose they 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:43.520 were intended um and um of course the 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:48.399 budget includes um um a continuation of 01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:51.039 the $100 rebate in relation to rates and 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.760 charges for all eligible recipients 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.960 thank you councelor Gro would any other 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.720 counselor like to 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.399 speak councelor 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:08.479 or thank you medw uh look I just wanted 01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:10.720 to um highlight just a couple of things 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:12.239 uh whilst I understand the report 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:14.439 details the financial allocations and 01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:17.800 priorities for the 2425 budget um it 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.319 does have various attachments um 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.560 outlining specific budget items and 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.560 projected expenditures I also wanted to 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.920 take note of the accompanying um 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:29.880 Community engagement report which is 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:32.720 attachment five um as it shares how the 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:35.119 budget um has been informed by the 01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.319 community's feedback from October last 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:40.000 year um and whilst um you know there's a 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.000 lot of detailed financial information 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:44.079 and I know it's rather complex and 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.680 perhaps even hard to understand for some 01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:48.560 I actually think the survey results and 01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:50.960 how that's translated and then informed 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:54.039 our budget um is outlined really nicely 01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:56.640 in that two page attachment um 01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:58.760 personally I've uh really appreciated 01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.560 and valued um the extensive counselor 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:03.039 workshops carried out over that 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.039 six-month period to to examine uh 01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:08.359 council's financial position and review 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:10.279 both the operational and capital 01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.399 expenditure for the budget of year um 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:14.920 and all of this is being underpinned by 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.279 that long-term financial plan assuring 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.119 that we have um thorough considerations 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:22.600 for our long-term sustainability so I'm 01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:24.520 I'm happy to adopt the uh the budget 01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:25.960 tonight thank thank 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:28.800 you well said councelor or thank you 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.640 councelor Baker yes I have a question 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:32.680 through the 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.760 chair certainly thank you just in 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.520 relation to the cemetery fentol cemetry 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.119 which is outlined in the agenda on page 01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.399 61 um just wanted to seek clarity about 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.279 the budget for the financials for the 01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:49.199 upcoming budget that's presented before 01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:51.960 us couple of questions how has the 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:53.920 Symmetry figures come about for this 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:55.920 budget um what is a breakdown of the 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:57.920 cemetery budget and why hasn't it been 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.359 included as a further clarification in 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:02.600 the budget um and just wanted to see 01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.520 Clarity on the fent Y cemetry trust fund 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.520 um and see what if that's the figures 01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.159 have changed is that included is that 01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:12.239 still separate um so did I hear three 01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:14.560 separate questions there yes thank you 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:16.800 Council Baker to our Chief Financial 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:18.720 Officer n 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:21.600 Lain uh through you Madame mayor so 01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:24.000 councelor Baker just in regards to the 01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:25.600 the trust fund 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.680 uh that isn't incorporated into this 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:30.880 budget because the the cemetery does 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:32.399 actually have separate accounts and 01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:34.720 separate bank accounts and so those 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:36.199 financial statements are actually 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.159 audited separately and they'll come to 01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:41.479 you separately um around uh August 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.119 September this year uh so what's 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:46.239 actually included from the perspective 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.359 of the budget tonight is that uh Council 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:51.760 now has a service catalog uh that 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:53.760 service catalog one of those Services 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.760 which is listed um shows that we do have 01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.159 a cemetery that we manage uh and 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:02.600 essentially we do pay a worker um from 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:05.520 that cemetry fund for which the cemeter 01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:08.079 then reimburses us so that's the income 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:09.479 coming in and also some of the 01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.479 expenditure going out and Council also 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.520 has some additional costs in relation to 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.439 some governance activities for running 01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.319 the day-to-day operations of the 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.319 cemetery which are the costs which are 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:25.159 shown in the budget um this evening 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:27.279 thank you n councilor Baker does that 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.920 answer your question yes it sufficiently 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.479 thank you I do very briefly thank you um 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.000 thank you to my counselor colleagues who 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:35.680 have already spoken on this um I 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:36.960 certainly won't wor you toate what's 01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:38.920 already been mentioned um but just 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:40.560 obviously I've read through the report 01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:42.640 that certainly has been a long budget 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.520 process as as each and every year has 01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:46.920 been uh and just acknowledging that 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:48.680 obviously in the budget that was 01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.399 allocated uh for the 2425 budget for 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.760 amberside Homestead in fantry galy um 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:55.520 that there is funding allocated it there 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:57.359 and discussions are continuing with nox 01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:59.720 Historical Society thank 01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:02.079 you thank you councilor 01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:05.159 Baker Council say 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:06.880 more thank 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:10.119 you um through you Madame mayor I'm not 01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:13.399 going to um shout the success of this 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:17.119 budget nor am I going to run it down um 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.720 I I just want to put it out there that 01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:21.680 um it is one that doesn't sit 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:24.680 comfortably with me um and I can't quite 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.000 put my finger on exactly why there it's 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:29.279 just a 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:32.279 discomfort 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.119 um part of the discomfort I think comes 01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.560 from the fact that and it talks about it 01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:42.720 on page 36 um we're investing 62% of the 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:46.560 budget in um what is touted as services 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:48.000 for the 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:51.079 community but it's not Direct Services 01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:54.199 so it's not necessarily services that 01:14:54.279 --> 01:14:58.359 our community the um feel or experience 01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:00.399 the nature of councils now is that 01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:02.600 there's a lot of backend organization 01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:04.039 and I think the fact that we're doing 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:06.800 service reviews so that we can actually 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.159 unpack the value and justify it going 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.079 forward is going to become increasingly 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.039 um important as we move into future 01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:16.000 budget 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:22.680 Cycles um because there is absolutely no 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.199 um opportunity anymore or to have F 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.880 built into backend operations or to 01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:33.680 offer service Community facing services 01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.000 that are um nice to haves rather than 01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:40.600 must haves so whilst we did a bit of a 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.760 scrub um for this budget I don't I think 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.239 there's still still some hard hard 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.399 decisions that need to come and 01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:51.039 unfortunately the service reviews didn't 01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:53.920 align entirely with the delivery of this 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:55.600 budget so 01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.840 um there's some un unpleasantness 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.479 sitting there because the flip side to 01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:03.680 that is that we're spending 48% on 01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:05.600 Capital works and the largest part of 01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:08.560 our Capital Works program is going into 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:10.800 renewals of Aging 01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.079 infrastructure and as we know we've got 01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:15.680 all these housing pressures um our 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.319 municipality is aging our population is 01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:22.159 growing um and it worries me that there 01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:23.279 is 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:27.000 no uh uplift or no fat that we can even 01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:30.199 top that up as things happen so if we 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:33.399 have major storm events um that impact 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.640 our storm water system or impact our 01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.800 roads or whatever there's not a lot of 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:40.920 money that we can go into to tap into 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.479 right now so the the challenges are real 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.880 and the challenges are there overlaid on 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.520 that we've got in excess of $90 million 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:51.920 in 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.000 loans so to have loans and the the 01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:56.960 budget is asking us to lock into another 01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.720 $21 million of loans over 10 years at 01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:02.640 fixed interest rates today we keep 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.319 hearing interest rates might come down 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:05.319 next 01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:08.079 year again it just if it was my 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.760 household budget I would be feeling 01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:14.520 extraordinary nervous committing to an 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.000 extra $21 Million worth of loans but we 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.960 need it in order to deliver the services 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.319 and the capital works that we need to 01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.640 deliver so then when you unpack all that 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.640 and we have to give up things like um 01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.840 stringy bark festival or we're having 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:35.960 debate about when we're selling property 01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:39.399 is it okay to accept a lower price for 01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:42.479 property by keeping a couple of trees 01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.640 and keeping our tree canopy goals versus 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:47.720 in today's Financial climate should we 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.520 just optimize sale sorry counselor SEO 01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:52.760 would you like an extension of time uh 01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:54.439 just very quickly please if you would 01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.960 mind Cher me that second councelor Baker 01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.600 all those in favor okay you have two 01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:02.520 minutes thank you I won't need two 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.239 minutes I'm just saying that you know 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:07.119 that we've CAU some criticism say for 01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:09.560 example walking away from the stringy B 01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:11.760 festival and yet there's other decisions 01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:13.199 that we're making that we could have 01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.600 saved that kind of quantum of money um 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:18.560 by doing other things differently it's 01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.439 all about swings and roundabouts and 01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.079 it's not been easy to get to where where 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:25.600 we are 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:29.119 um but you know we are where we are now 01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:31.960 and I think next year's budget is going 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.720 to be even worse but when those service 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:37.920 reviews are going to be absolutely 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:39.840 critical and even if we adopt this 01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:41.960 budget we should be still looking for 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.680 continuous savings regardless that's it 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:47.680 thank you councelor SEO would any other 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.640 councelor like to speak to this item 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.039 councilor 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.239 Pierce thank you madam 01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:59.680 mayor this is my 16th and final budget 01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:00.840 as a 01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.000 counselor and I wish it was under I 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:04.239 could say under more positive 01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:06.479 circumstances like councelor seamour I 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.960 won't praise or trash this budget but 01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.000 for honesty and transparency to the 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:13.600 community I think there's some points to 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:18.720 be made out now as Civic leaders we got 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.800 two choices we can defend our excuses or 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.640 we can take decisive action and I don't 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:26.680 don't believe in this fouryear term of 01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.439 council we've taken substantive decisive 01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:33.359 action on structural budget reform 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:36.560 essentially we played around the edges 01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:39.760 but the sub the structure substantially 01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:43.279 remained intact now in households and 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:44.800 individuals as you've pointed out who 01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:48.640 are struggling don't have that 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:52.159 luxury now so you've got to ask the 01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:55.000 question why are we running a deficit of 01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.520 $8 million in early years next year 5 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.039 million that will be redundancy payouts 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:01.880 but why we're Heming 3 million on 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:04.039 something that's health and education a 01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:05.600 state government 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:07.600 responsibility while we spending 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:11.920 $850,000 on economic development 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.960 initiatives why are we spending $3.3 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.479 million on social policy research and 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:23.359 planning why are we spending $980,000 on 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.079 sustainability and climate change 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.680 response why are we spending $1.6 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:33.279 million on arts and culture $696,000 on 01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:34.960 festivals and 01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.800 events $1 million on data information 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:42.439 and Technology $5.6 million on people 01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:46.000 and culture and yes $2.4 million on 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.399 strategy and performance we've not seen 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.560 one single service review coming through 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:52.800 in this term of 01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:56.079 council I now now if we if we we've made 01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.439 those decisions I'm responsible like all 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.479 other nine councilors collectively I 01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.600 don't walk away from that I've argued my 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.239 case budget after budget and being shut 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:08.119 down that's fine that's the nature of 01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:11.079 the process but what we do owe the 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.560 community is complete honesty and 01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.359 transparency to say the next Council 01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:19.279 Council C was right is going to going to 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.640 inherit a huge financial challenge cuz I 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:25.239 don't believe we showed the the fiscal 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:27.760 leadership and made the diff made 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:28.680 difficult 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.319 decisions uh and instead of kicking 01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:33.680 things down the road to service reviews 01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:35.880 we're in elected leadership we make 01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:38.960 decisions on imperfect information the 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:41.479 challenge is by the time these service 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:43.680 reviews come around the external 01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.159 environment will moved on again and we 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.119 and we're back to square 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:52.279 one so said unfortunately sorry to the 01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:53.920 next Council but this is the situation 01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:55.279 you are going 01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:57.159 you like an extension no thank you madam 01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.800 mayor thank you councilor 01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:04.720 Pier would any other counselor like to 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:08.079 speak to this 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:12.279 item no okay um I do really want to 01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.000 thank the counselor colleagues who have 01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:17.319 spoken um and for their honesty on this 01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:20.600 as I said very difficult budget um I 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:23.000 think that councilor Seymour raised a 01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:24.800 lot of issues that we can also speak 01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.640 about in the next item on the agenda um 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:29.279 because that's exactly what we're trying 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:32.239 to identify in our submission for the 01:22:32.319 --> 01:22:35.079 state inquiry into the sustainability of 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.960 local government um so many of those 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.479 points that you raised are speaking to 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:43.079 that exact issue um and likewise 01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:48.479 councilor PE um I actually on some 01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:50.319 matters I I would beg to disagree 01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:51.960 because this Council group also 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.800 inherited some um some significant 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:56.399 Financial challenges and I think that 01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:58.279 we've we've worked to address some of 01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.960 those very well um but I do agree with 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:02.520 you that we're on a long road when it 01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:06.000 comes to service reviews and getting the 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:08.600 um the information that will inform some 01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:10.800 of those tough decisions when you 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:12.840 identify things in the budget that we 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:15.800 are spending money on we actually do 01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:18.880 have as councelor orid said um 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:20.760 justification through our community 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:24.640 engagement process to fund those various 01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:26.560 um items and and projects and 01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:28.680 expenditure that have been identified 01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:35.119 when it comes to um ICT and uh our Data 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:37.840 Systems um it's one of those things that 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:39.760 nobody's actually going to say when you 01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:41.600 do community engagement that they want 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:43.520 Council to spend money on but if we 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.720 don't we could be in all sorts of 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.000 trouble and it's getting increasingly 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:50.239 expensive to be able to provide very 01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:54.640 secure Services um for our res residents 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.920 and ensure that we are up to dat um with 01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.680 our with our ICT strategy and the um the 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.399 investment that we have to put into that 01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:04.279 is 01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:08.720 huge um all right we are going to lead I 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.800 think into more conversation on this 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.520 with the next item so I'll now put the 01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:15.920 motion all those in 01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:19.800 favor the motion is 01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:22.600 carried that was unanimous sorry for 01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:26.239 those on the screen 01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:30.279 8.2 State inquiry submission would a 01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:33.560 councelor like to move a 01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:39.720 motion sorry do I have a counselor 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:42.920 Council loin did you want to 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:46.960 move I don't need to would you like me 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.479 to okay I'm happy to move it as the 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:54.760 chair do I have a second of the motion 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:57.640 I'll second it as P the offic thank you 01:24:57.720 --> 01:24:59.880 Council loin all right well I have been 01:24:59.960 --> 01:25:01.880 asked to move this one and I'm I'm more 01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:04.960 than happy to um because I have seen 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:07.840 other submissions and I have to say that 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:11.840 this one is excellent this is a topnotch 01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:14.640 submission it paints a well detailed 01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:16.600 picture of the current state of play 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:19.119 with regards to financial sustainability 01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:23.239 in local government generally and no um 01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:25.279 specifically and to be honest it's 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:29.079 pretty bleak I want to thank um both 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.439 state and federal governments for um for 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.439 initiating these inquiries I'm really 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.439 pleased that we have the opportunity to 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:38.239 speak to these things what I'm concerned 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.880 about is uh what amount of attention 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:42.880 these submissions are going to get 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.760 however we can't not try and the 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:48.560 opportunity sub to submit I think KNX 01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:51.399 has really um taken on board and and 01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:55.079 done very well so for anyone that um is 01:25:55.159 --> 01:25:57.199 interested actually anybody at all 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.000 bedtime reading this is a really 01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:03.920 important document that does explain the 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:06.640 um the critical situation for local 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:10.239 governments in in financial 01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.399 sustainability um a critical point is 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.640 made oh sorry 01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:19.600 computer um on I think it's identified 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.760 on page two of the submission when it 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.840 comes to financial sustainability of 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:25.720 local government the key difference 01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:27.479 between local government and state and 01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:30.039 federal governments is that local 01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:32.600 government's main income stream being 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.239 rates is set by another level of 01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:38.920 government a dependency this is on page 01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.880 seven a dependency on increasing debt 01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:44.399 levels while constraining own source 01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.039 Revenue capability will only continue to 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.399 erode Financial sustainability of 01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.279 councils so councilor Seymour spoke to 01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:55.279 this well how the debt levels that we 01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.479 having to incur just to ensure that we 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:02.840 can meet the um the demands of um on our 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:07.640 budget will'll actually have uh that um 01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:11.520 self whatever it is it's it creates a 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:13.680 situation where it just continually 01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:15.239 erods our 01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.319 sustainability um and when you have debt 01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:20.760 being borrowed at the current interest 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:24.640 rate um and your Revenue coming in at a 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:28.520 capped rate it's absolutely like it's 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:29.720 it's going to 01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:32.520 fail if the mechanism for calculating 01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:34.560 the rate cap is not addressed councils 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:37.039 will ultimately either need to exit a 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.439 broader range of services or F further 01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.199 reduce service levels and will face the 01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:45.960 risk of deterioration of public assets 01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.319 such as roads and Community 01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.239 facilities and further a deteriorating 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:53.199 asset base will result in increased 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:55.359 future costs as the frequency of 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:57.640 Maintenance increases and the cost of 01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:00.399 eventual intervention to renew the asset 01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:03.520 increases you can see this spiraling out 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.920 of control and I think that's what's 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:07.640 been picked up so well in this 01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:09.520 submission and I really do thank 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:11.800 officers for their work on this I think 01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:14.600 it's a very clear picture and I'm really 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:16.439 pleased that KNX has been able to put 01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:18.199 this together as I said compared to 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:22.039 other submissions i' I've seen this is 01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:24.479 excellent councilor loens would you like 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:25.319 to 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:27.680 speak thank you through you mayor um 01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:29.960 thank you very much for a clear concise 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:32.960 um uh argument to this state inquiry 01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:34.920 submission and you're right both state 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:36.680 and lo and federal government have put 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:40.239 forward um committees to under to 01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:41.560 understand the funding and the 01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:44.199 constraints of local government and so 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:46.039 uh both level government know that it's 01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:48.119 absolutely real what will they do about 01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:49.560 it we don't know but what's really 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.079 important is that KNX has put forward a 01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:54.880 submission outlining what our 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.319 um situation is and what it means for 01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:00.159 the community of KNX um and I'm really 01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.520 proud that we are stepping up um to the 01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:05.000 table to put forward from our residents 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:07.600 what it what Financial sustainable 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:10.319 sustainability means but what are the 01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.920 risks and the um the implications of the 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.439 current funding reduction in funding um 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.479 not knowing certainty of funding um 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.760 costs of construction going up way more 01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:25.560 than our rate cap um our increase like 01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:27.199 we've said our increased population 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:28.800 growth and then what will that do to our 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.319 roads how much money do we need to then 01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.680 invest in renewal uh which when we the 01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:36.720 funding stream that we have like 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:39.479 councelor Dwight has indicated is set by 01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:40.920 another level of 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:44.680 government um we have no autonomy to 01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:46.640 ensure that we remain financially 01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:50.760 sustainable in a truly trans which we 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.359 are we set our budget like we did in a 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:57.199 truly trans transparent manner um thank 01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.119 you to the officers uh and everyone 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.159 involved in this admission I think it's 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:02.840 important that we put strong words on 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.720 behalf of our community um to this um 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.000 committee to let them know truly what it 01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:10.760 what um our situation is and what what 01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:13.399 action we would like um I'm sure that it 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:15.720 will be within our minutes I encourage 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.079 you to read it if you choose to it's um 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:19.640 really 01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.239 important thank you councilor lkin would 01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:23.920 any other counselor like to speak 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:26.159 councelor seore thank you I'm not going 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:28.039 to speak specifically to the report 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:30.640 because I think you've articulated it um 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.479 well mayor Dwight what I am going to to 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.680 touch base on though is I don't believe 01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.520 that the community has an appetite for 01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:43.680 rate capping to be lifted um we've heard 01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.439 about cost of living um pressures I 01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.720 think what overwhelmingly I hear is the 01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:53.680 community saying um we want councils to 01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:56.479 get Back to Basics so what are those 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.560 core essential services that local 01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:01.760 government exists for and councils need 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.319 to focus on that so I think my 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:06.680 perspective of where this state inquiry 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:10.319 submission is likely to end up is it 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.680 could be a disruptor or a catalyst 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:16.279 document for some kind of more 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.760 sector-wide um imposition of the future 01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:23.159 of local government so this whole in in 01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:24.520 the past where there's been cost 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:28.680 shifting and service shifting where um 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:30.199 state government has been able to 01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:33.520 delegate or push out uh local government 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:35.840 as being the delivery arm of their 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.840 policy and their agendas that's going to 01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.760 have to stop um the other thing that I 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:44.840 can see being a catalyst coming from 01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:48.159 these kind of submissions is a real push 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:51.159 for um consolidation of 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.439 councils so we where we go and we talk 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:57.800 about some of the budgetary pressures um 01:31:57.880 --> 01:31:59.479 you know as if I was sitting on the 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:01.399 outside of local government reading this 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:04.520 document I'd be saying well why can't 01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.279 you have greater consolidation on a 01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:08.439 regional basis and get better economies 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:13.159 of scale etc etc so um I think this 01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:15.800 process that we're going through is 01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:18.960 needed um but I don't believe it will be 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:21.199 the savior of local government that we 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:23.479 will get outcomes that we need to be 01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:26.560 more sustainable it will be the Catalyst 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.199 for change of local government going 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.439 forward around what services we deliver 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:34.880 what our structures are um and it will 01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:38.000 be imposed on us rather than a choice of 01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:39.600 individual 01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:41.920 councils thank you councelor Seymour 01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:43.680 councelor Tas 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.560 Le um thank you m Dwight I don't have 01:32:46.640 --> 01:32:48.680 much to add to what's already been very 01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:52.640 well articulated um apart to um to join 01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:54.760 the support in this excellent submission 01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:56.439 and document and thank the officers for 01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:58.880 their time um we've been very targeted 01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.680 in the way that we've approached um this 01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:04.880 uh we could have thrown a significant 01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.359 amount of information on all of the 01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:10.279 different examples of the way that um 01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:11.840 cost shifting has happened from other 01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:13.760 levels of government and I think for me 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.960 one of the most powerful things that I 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.560 see in the document is the amount of 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.000 councils um that are reporting deficits 01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.399 into surpluses over time and that 01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:26.960 significant increase and as we've seen 01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:28.880 in tonight's budget you know we're one 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:32.840 of those councils as well so um you it 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:36.119 is evident that it's not uh it is a 01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:37.960 sector-wide issue that we're 01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:41.199 experiencing and the um as already has 01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:44.119 been pointed out tonight the the need 01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:46.239 for local councils to continue to 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.880 deliver to their to our communities by 01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.199 way of servicing it through debt as 01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:55.600 opposed to other levels of income um is 01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:59.159 only impacting and escalating um this 01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:02.600 sustainability issue so um I do support 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:04.720 um this item tonight and the work that's 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:07.640 been put in um for this very excellent 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:09.560 submission thank you 01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:12.439 team thank you councelor timle would any 01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:14.880 other counselor like to 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:18.079 speak councelor 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:20.800 pet thank you Madame mayor I have no 01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:22.399 problem with the submission I mean it 01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.279 cannot hurt 01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:26.319 the CH the count I want to pick up what 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.920 councilor Seymour said in terms of the 01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.600 context of the discussion and that is 01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:33.079 it's all one side it's all about how do 01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:35.840 we get extra Revenue if I was as local 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:37.600 government Minister I'd be staring every 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:39.319 count m in the face and saying what are 01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.439 you doing about reforming your 01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:45.239 expenditure what are you doing about 01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.079 eliminating unne you know nice to have 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:48.800 but 01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:51.520 non-essential programs and 01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:54.560 services so this will go 01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:56.920 committee and they'll politely listen to 01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.520 you all and my dare say they'll ignore 01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:02.520 it because the cynical s of me says 01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:05.319 after all these years because they I 01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:07.159 think they got plans in place I think 01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:09.319 they're trying to every council is 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:11.479 progressively going broke at different 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:14.520 rates but together and they're softening 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:16.520 this whole sector up for merges no doubt 01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:18.760 at all they can inst simply argue say 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.119 KNX $30 million in corporate overhead 01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:23.640 well if we merge six councils together 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:25.760 we could eliminate a whole raft of 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:28.439 backend bureaucrats and free up hundreds 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.680 of millions of dollars I mean and let's 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:33.439 be honest the as long as a garbage gets 01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:35.479 picked up the next week the rate payers 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:37.079 wouldn't even notice we got merged with 01:35:37.159 --> 01:35:40.479 five councils let alone care 01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:44.159 so the only way you go to me this is 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:45.399 okay you're doing the Diplomatic 01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:46.880 approach here but it's got to be backed 01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:50.800 up by what I call by hard action that we 01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:54.399 took with the kinder Gardens the 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:56.199 minister jumped up and squealed like a 01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:59.720 barnyard Pig for 43 seconds no one cared 01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:03.239 what she thought that's how you get 01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.119 action and respect from the politicians 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:06.880 when you they know you have just 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:09.359 delivered them a financial headache now 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:11.159 I can think of a number of programs that 01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:13.920 people say oh no you can't but you know 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.960 health generically health education Law 01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:19.880 and Order Emergency Management all these 01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:22.640 woke social issues that we're expecting 01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:25.439 to run program on now they are not the 01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:28.279 responsibility of local government so 01:36:28.359 --> 01:36:30.439 this is all very nice but I think the 01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:32.640 the the the rate payers are saying hey 01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.039 we've had to cut back we've had to make 01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:36.640 immediate decisions we didn't have the 01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:39.520 luxury of doing service reviews for 3 01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.079 years you need to make some decisions 01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:44.760 and make some decisions now and know 01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:46.159 there's there's no way we'll be 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:48.520 supporting a change right R and I don't 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.159 think there should be that to me is the 01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:54.800 is the coward's way out thank you 01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.760 thank you councelor Pi would any other 01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.760 counsel like to speak to this 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:02.399 item 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.279 right okay I'll now put the motion all 01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:06.720 those in 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.840 favor that motion is 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:12.439 carried 01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.840 unanimously not doing the tally tonight 01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:18.640 very well sorry for those on 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.600 online certainly yeah so would would a 01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:25.399 councelor like to move a motion 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:27.960 councelor Lain and seconded by councelor 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:31.039 Pierce to adjourn the meeting for 10 01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.079 minutes until I think we just need to 01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:34.479 have the motion on the screen which 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:37.800 Darren Damen looks like he's trying to 01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:39.359 put out for us 01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:44.399 now what we have ready to get 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.159 I think the short story is that we've 01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:15.119 got to here it is that Council agend the 01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.880 meeting for 10 minutes thank you David 01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.119 uh to we'll meet back at well it says 7 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.880 minutes to 9: uh all those in 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.560 favor that motion is carried so we'll 01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.760 break for 10 minutes thank 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:35.399 you okay we'll resume at 8.3 base water 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:37.880 parking management plan would a 01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:40.960 councelor like to move a 01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:44.159 motion councilor Gro thank you as per 01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:45.840 the officer's 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.359 recommendation yes M iose the officer's 01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:49.920 recommendation thank you is there a 01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.319 second for that motion I'll second that 01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:54.600 motion Council t as leech thank you 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:57.119 councelor 01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.239 Graff thank you MW and through you the 01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:03.920 the draft baywater parking management 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.640 plan Builds on the findings of an 01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:09.359 independent parking study conducted in 01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:12.000 the commercial area of baywater and the 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:15.640 surrounding residential streets in March 01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:18.479 2022 the draft was also available more 01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:20.760 recently for public comment during 01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:22.279 February 01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:24.840 2024 Community consultation was 01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:27.359 undertaken in a number of ways using 01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.520 council's website to have your save page 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.560 social media posts and the distribution 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:35.880 of flies to the bayw waterer residents 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:38.760 and businesses in the area as a result 01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:42.000 of the second consultation process 81 01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:44.880 submissions from 60 contributors were 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:46.560 received for the draft based water 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:48.960 parking management plan providing 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:51.800 support and comment on the draft 01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:55.359 plan some ke issues from the draft Bas 01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:56.760 water parking management plan 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:58.960 submissions received from presenting 01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:01.760 this draft plan for public comment have 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:03.560 prompted the following changes to the 01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:05.800 original draft basw parking management 01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:09.760 plan to create 3-hour and 4-Hour parking 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:12.159 areas in the Pine Road car park to cater 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:15.239 for longer stays this helps residents to 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:18.199 shop longer to have longer hairdressing 01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.079 appointments for example um and and so 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:23.560 on also to provide an addition 01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:25.720 accessible space in the Pine Road car 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:28.520 park accessibility in this area is a 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:29.640 needed 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:32.439 Improvement uh also remove the 2-hour 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.279 parking proposed on the east side of 01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:36.920 Church Street review the baywater 01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:40.039 business permit allocation and some no 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:42.279 parking sections in King Street for 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:44.479 passing space to be implemented at the 01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:46.760 same time as commercial restriction 01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:48.680 changes there may be some minor 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:50.279 adjustments required to parking 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:53.840 restrictions at specific locations um 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:55.560 not currently considered in the parking 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.000 management plan but if that happens the 01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:00.039 affected residents or businesses will be 01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:02.960 notified um and and I will be notified 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:05.199 as well Arrangements will be made to 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:07.600 install any parking changes within stage 01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:10.359 one in a commercial area that include 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:12.800 the installation of three additional 01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.680 accessible Bays again to enhance 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:17.560 accessibility as as we know and it's 01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:19.720 been stated before we have an aging 01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:22.560 population and accessibility um becomes 01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:25.600 even more important uh the Pine Road car 01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:28.520 park having 3our and 4-Hour parking time 01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:31.359 limits on Mountain Highway the north 01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:33.279 side between Valentine Street and 01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:36.079 Railway parade going to half hour time 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:38.680 limits so that's extended and simplified 01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:40.560 to enable people to have an extra 15 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:42.920 minutes on the current 15 minutes which 01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.000 can often be inadequate if you're 01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:46.960 waiting in a queue for a takeaway from 01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:48.920 one of the cafes on Mountain Highway for 01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:51.359 example updating signs is needed to 01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:53.159 ensure compliance with the proposed 01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:56.640 operating time and within the stage two 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:59.000 outer residential area some no parking 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.439 areas along King Street are propos to 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:03.760 create passing areas so this change is 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:05.880 in response to concerns previously 01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:09.119 raised by residents for example so cars 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.199 can turn around safely if you can't find 01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:13.960 a parking spot if you drive to the end 01:42:14.039 --> 01:42:15.359 of the street and you can't find a 01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:17.760 parking spot or to enable the car coming 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:19.520 from the opposite direction to pass 01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:22.159 safely otherwise it's it's very hard to 01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:24.520 do that businesses and residents will be 01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:26.279 notified prior to installing the 01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:30.359 proposed parking changes um I uh am 01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:33.840 supportive of the of the draft and I um 01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:37.000 commend it to my counselor 01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:39.399 colleagues thank you councilor Gro 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:43.359 councilth Le um thank you I'm M D look 01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:46.319 I'm also really supportive of um where 01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:49.720 we've got to with this draft um parking 01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:52.479 management plan um as someone who went 01:42:52.560 --> 01:42:54.920 through the the iteration of the one 01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:57.239 Turner parking plan um parking 01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:00.439 management plan I really um believe that 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:02.560 having these big these strategic 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.680 documents um endorsed is actually really 01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:09.079 important um what I see in where we've 01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:12.199 got to with this um integrates what I've 01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:14.760 heard um and the advocacy that I 01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:16.600 received during particularly my time as 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.800 mayor um in regards to baz water um 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.680 especially um the availability of 3 and 01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:24.840 4 Hour parking limits in the Pine Road 01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:27.560 car park to enable support for the 01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.520 retailers there um to have longer stays 01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:32.560 um particularly hairdresses and so forth 01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:35.560 so um what I also like seeing within 01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:37.279 this is that that ability for that 01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:40.399 broader Network for locals um who live 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:43.880 nearby um and the impact that increased 01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:45.840 parking will have on their local streets 01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:49.000 this does enable a mechanism that um 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:51.840 locals can tap into um to provide that 01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:53.640 balance that we're always seeking in our 01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:56.880 key activity um areas in regards to 01:43:56.960 --> 01:43:59.560 accessibility and parking so um an 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:02.760 excellent job again by our traffic team 01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:07.039 on this um and very happy to um support 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:11.199 um support this uh strategy so thank 01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:14.880 you thank you councelor timle would any 01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:18.520 other counselor like to speak to this 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:21.880 item H councelor Gro would you like your 01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:24.399 R of reply 01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:27.119 okay I'll now put the motion all those 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:28.880 in 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:33.000 paper that motion is carried 01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:40.319 unanimously item 8.4 before we move to 01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:43.159 this item the contract 3301 parks and 01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:44.920 open space maintenance I would like to 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.760 declare a general conflict of interest 01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:50.239 as the propri proprietor of one of the 01:44:50.319 --> 01:44:51.920 recommended tenderers operation 01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:53.680 revegetation is is a personal 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:55.920 acquaintance of mine who stands to gain 01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:59.279 materially from this decision uh in the 01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:01.159 interest of avoiding potential perceived 01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:03.239 bias I would like to declare a general 01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:05.640 conflict and remove remove myself from 01:45:05.720 --> 01:45:09.239 this vote and ask that Deputy Mayor um 01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:11.439 Serena Gro chair this item thank you 01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:13.960 councelor 01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:25.960 Gro e 01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:06.279 before I call for a motion I'll remind 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:08.560 counselors that we may need to close the 01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:11.159 meeting if there are detailed questions 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:14.039 or debate about matters set out in the 01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:16.920 confidential attachments for this 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.479 report would a counselor like to move a 01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:22.560 motion 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:26.720 councelor Cooper uh is that as per the 01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:28.520 officer's recommendation is 01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.720 printed thank you is there a second of 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.159 for that 01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:39.479 motion ion councilor Ori thank you uh 01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:43.640 councilor Cooper as move do you wish to 01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:51.439 speak thank you just very briefly um 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:53.199 this report considers and Rec commends 01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:54.800 the appointment of contractors for 01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:57.680 delivery of services under contract 01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:00.800 3301 parks and open space maintenance 01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:02.520 services delivered under this contract 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:04.439 include Garden maintenance Family and 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:07.079 Children's Center yard management 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:09.079 reactive Services mulch supply and 01:47:09.159 --> 01:47:12.800 install plumbing and electrical services 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.880 um overall I'm in in support of this 01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.199 report um I don't have any further 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:21.239 questions and I'm happy to um endorse a 01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:24.840 report as is thank you 01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:32.079 thank you councilor Cooper Council red 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:34.840 um as the second do you wish to speak 01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:37.279 thank you Council Grasso I look just to 01:47:37.359 --> 01:47:39.199 reiterate um you know the contractors 01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:42.119 for maining uh maintaining uh parks and 01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:44.399 Open Spaces uh ensuring they're 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:46.319 wellmaintained and accessible to the 01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:48.960 public um the contract ensures regular 01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:50.760 and professional maintenance of parks 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:53.079 and open spaces and we know that um 01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:55.960 well-maintained Parks enhance Community 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:57.640 well-being and recreational 01:47:57.720 --> 01:47:59.079 opportunities so I just want to 01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:01.039 acknowledge um the importance of that 01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:03.399 single contract for maintenance um can 01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:06.720 lead to uh cost efficiencies and savings 01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:08.520 um but I also want to emphasize the 01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:11.039 importance of performance monitoring um 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.359 that that Council managers and officers 01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:15.359 have a very thorough process in place 01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:17.760 and diligent oversight um so that 01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:20.199 contractors meet council's expected 01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:24.760 performance standards thank you 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:32.079 does any other Council wish to 01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:37.800 speak I would just like to add myself 01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:39.119 that the contract will Aid in 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:41.199 maintaining a sustainable natural 01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:43.600 environment creating attractive and 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:46.560 vibrant places for the community to use 01:48:46.640 --> 01:48:48.760 and as Council roed pointed out the 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.239 recommended contractors are aware of 01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:52.800 their responsibility to all 01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:54.800 environmental elements affected by these 01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:58.079 Works including safe use of chemicals 01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:00.079 and of course it is within available 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:02.560 budget 01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.279 allocation uh councelor Cooper as mover 01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:09.600 would you like to exercise your right of 01:49:09.680 --> 01:49:12.840 reply thank you I'll now put the motion 01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:15.600 all those in 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:23.560 favor thank you that motion is carried 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:33.000 now that the item has been 01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:36.520 finalized I call back for Council Dwight 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:40.239 to uh join 01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:48.159 us thank you councilor Gro I think we've 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:50.399 got one more of those tonight sorry I 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.319 get a bit of exercise um 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:57.319 item 8.5 contract 3339 maintenance of 01:49:57.399 --> 01:50:00.039 open spaces and Road reserves before I 01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:02.159 call for a motion I'll remind councilors 01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:03.920 that we may need to close the meeting if 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.880 there are detailed questions or debate 01:50:05.960 --> 01:50:07.960 about matters set out in the 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:11.039 confidential attachments for this report 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:14.479 would a councilor like to move a 01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:21.479 motion I'll move to the officer's 01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:23.680 recommendation thank you councelor loins 01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:26.840 is there a second for the 01:50:26.920 --> 01:50:29.880 motion councelor gr thank you councelor 01:50:29.960 --> 01:50:32.560 lains thank you through you may Dwight 01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:35.239 um this is another uh contract that is 01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:37.640 coming up for Renewal um and this one is 01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.119 to uh as in the discussions maintenance 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:41.840 activities including mowing brush 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.319 cutting chemical spraying edging litter 01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:46.760 collection of grassed areas now this 01:50:46.840 --> 01:50:48.159 work is done between a mixture of 01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:51.199 internal and contracted Services um but 01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:53.399 as we can see um and as councelor 01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:55.119 already in the previous item had 01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.840 indicated that um our community do enjoy 01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:02.560 seeing that their open reserves uh what 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:05.279 are we here linear major road separators 01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:08.119 lineal path significant Lawns um 01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:10.760 roadside undeveloped blocks um and other 01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.800 areas are maintained um appropriately to 01:51:13.880 --> 01:51:16.520 a standard aesthetically that they enjoy 01:51:16.600 --> 01:51:18.479 to see and as we know and like councelor 01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:21.920 Seymour said when um our medium strips 01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:23.439 which we know state government has 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:25.680 reduced their times of mowing you can 01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.199 just see the the visual impact that it 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:31.640 has so in this report it does indicate 01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:34.159 um the frequency that we have and also 01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:37.000 noting that the different um times of 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:40.039 the year when we know that the uh the 01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:43.840 Grass Grows slower we reduce our Mowing 01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:45.319 and in the summer months when we know 01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:47.600 our Grass Grows really fast we increase 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:50.680 the frequency of our mowing so um yeah 01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:52.920 thank you 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.600 thank you councelor Lain councelor Gro 01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:58.600 would you like to speak just briefly as 01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:01.039 Council Lain pointed out the services 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:03.039 under the contract provide a significant 01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.399 contribution to enhance the environment 01:52:05.479 --> 01:52:07.920 and visual amenity of the municipality's 01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:10.039 road Network and the surrounding area 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:12.600 councilor Seymour mentioned earlier that 01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:16.520 um uh at times uh residents uh certainly 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.159 notice when this uh maintenance isn't 01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:21.680 happening and it's not always uh in 01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:23.199 council's remit 01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:25.920 um but uh this is certainly uh where it 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.079 is and so I'm very 01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:31.560 supportive thank you counselor Gro would 01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:33.880 any other counselor like to speak to 01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:36.159 this 01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:39.079 item 01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:41.800 right Council loin did you need your 01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:45.119 Rite reply okay I'll now put the motion 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:47.199 all those in 01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:50.199 favor that motion is carried unanimously 01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:53.479 thank you 01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:57.920 item 8.6 buring a multi-purpose Hub 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.079 stakeholder consultation and location 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:04.159 options would a counselor like to move a 01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:07.720 motion counselor already thank you and 01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:10.920 is there a second for the 01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:14.079 motion I'm happy to second that thank 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:16.119 you councilor 01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:18.279 orid thank you I just thought I'd have a 01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:19.920 little bit of suspense to keep you all 01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:21.920 guessing um look I'm actually really 01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.359 pleased to present the update on the 01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:28.319 baronia multi-purpose Hub project um I 01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:30.640 understand the stakeholder concentation 01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:33.479 has been really extensive uh Gathering 01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:35.279 really valuable input from Community 01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:37.640 groups and stakeholders to ensure that 01:53:37.720 --> 01:53:40.720 the future Hub meets the local need um 01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:43.239 the report outlines potential locations 01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:45.399 uh evaluating them based on 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:49.000 accessibility um cost and Community 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:51.720 impact um determining the preferred site 01:53:51.800 --> 01:53:53.159 for the harb it's actually really 01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:55.279 crucial as it'll be a guide it will be 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.560 the guide sorry as it will guide um 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:01.680 other key projects in Bonia uh we have 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.720 identified that 257 Dorset Road um as 01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:07.840 the most Co cost effective solution uh 01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:10.479 this site is particularly advantageous 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:12.279 because the land is already owned by 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:14.680 Council uh reducing the additional 01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:16.680 expenses related to purchasing and 01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:19.960 preparing the land um it's situating the 01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:22.319 harbit 257 Dorset Road also will 01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:24.199 contribute signif 01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:26.760 significantly uh to the upgrade of the 01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:29.399 train station Precinct um and its 01:54:29.479 --> 01:54:32.560 upgrade could be the Catalyst for future 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:34.920 private investment which is really um 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:37.720 essential for the success of our renewal 01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:40.640 strategy I should that add that although 01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:43.239 this was a really complex report um I 01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:45.600 did really appreciate the breakdown of 01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:48.920 the modeling of each site um which 01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:52.520 outlined both the um advantages and the 01:54:52.600 --> 01:54:55.399 disadvantages for each um personally 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:57.159 I'll just say shout out there that it's 01:54:57.239 --> 01:54:59.439 another really good read for any future 01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.520 candidates in the upcoming election um I 01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:04.399 acknowledge the balancing stakeholder 01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:07.239 desires with financial realities can be 01:55:07.319 --> 01:55:09.520 really difficult uh potentially leading 01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:11.520 to compromises in the hub's future 01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:15.199 features and location but I'm happy to 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:17.239 endorse tonight's recommendation in the 01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:20.319 report thank you thank you councilor 01:55:20.399 --> 01:55:22.640 orid thank you for providing uh a great 01:55:22.720 --> 01:55:25.079 summary of the report and highlighting 01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:27.359 um some of the the benefits around the 01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.239 SES proposed so I I will leave it there 01:55:30.319 --> 01:55:31.840 would any other counselor like to speak 01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:34.000 to this 01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:38.239 item no all right uh with that I'll put 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:40.520 the motion all those in 01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:45.640 favor that motion's also carried 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:49.680 unanimously 8.7 child friendly City's 01:55:49.760 --> 01:55:51.880 report would a counsil like to move a 01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:54.239 motion 01:55:56.399 --> 01:56:00.079 Council or thank you as per the 01:56:00.159 --> 01:56:01.119 officer's 01:56:01.199 --> 01:56:03.319 recommendation and do I have a second 01:56:03.399 --> 01:56:05.880 councelor Tas Lee thank you councilor 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:09.319 ored would you like to speak thanks 01:56:09.399 --> 01:56:11.760 Maria um look I'm really comfortable 01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:13.760 with the recommendation to adopt and 01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:16.520 become a signatry to the Victorian 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:18.479 Charter for child friendly cities and 01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:21.359 communities um whilst noting that being 01:56:21.439 --> 01:56:23.439 a signatur to the child friendly cities 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:25.399 and communities aligns with the 01:56:25.479 --> 01:56:28.119 objectives from our own uh child Youth 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:31.319 and seniors plan uh 21 to2 which was 01:56:31.399 --> 01:56:36.399 endorsed by Council in October 2021 I 01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:38.079 know that nox already undertakes many 01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:40.199 actions in line with the charter already 01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:42.760 and this formal adoption is just sort of 01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:45.359 our public recognition of that ongoing 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:47.920 work uh the child friendly cities create 01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:49.640 an environment conducive to the 01:56:49.720 --> 01:56:51.680 well-being and development of children 01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:55.319 it covers areas such as safe play spaces 01:56:55.399 --> 01:56:57.800 um educational facilities and Community 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.680 programs um the report aims to identify 01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:02.920 gaps and propose improvements to make 01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:06.520 more uh to make nox more child friendly 01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:08.960 I appreciated that by prioritizing the 01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:11.000 children's needs it can lead to better 01:57:11.079 --> 01:57:13.000 developmental outcomes and a healthier 01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:15.960 Community overall um urban planning even 01:57:16.039 --> 01:57:18.800 becomes more inclusive and benefits all 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:21.000 demographic groups and can provide the 01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:23.520 framework for some really long-term 01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:25.600 social benefits so thanks for the report 01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:28.560 tonight happy to move forward thank you 01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:30.920 thank you councilor ored councilor Tim 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.840 Lee um thank you MWI and thank you 01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:35.880 councel you've already given a really 01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:38.720 great overarch of probably much of what 01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:41.159 I would have said within my debate um 01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:44.199 probably what i' I'd just um uh pick up 01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:47.239 on is that um nox city council are 01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:49.680 already um have been declared an 01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:53.680 age-friendly city um so 01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:55.840 um I think that this is a really nice 01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:59.079 balance for us to also be um a child 01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:02.199 friendly city um we there are already 20 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:04.960 Victorian um municipalities that um are 01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:07.399 already endorsed including cardinia 01:58:07.479 --> 01:58:09.600 Casey danong Monash and white horse in 01:58:09.680 --> 01:58:11.479 terms of our you know our closest 01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:15.439 neighbors um the uh integration of being 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:17.560 a child-friendly city um is something 01:58:17.640 --> 01:58:20.359 that Council ored and I hear very 01:58:20.439 --> 01:58:22.880 frequently um on our early years 01:58:22.960 --> 01:58:25.039 advisory committee and I'm really 01:58:25.119 --> 01:58:27.960 pleased um that you know as as the the 01:58:28.039 --> 01:58:29.520 Council of Representatives that we've 01:58:29.600 --> 01:58:32.279 been able to to bring you know to bring 01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:36.079 the debate to to this item tonight um we 01:58:36.159 --> 01:58:38.000 hear this every single time we get 01:58:38.079 --> 01:58:40.479 together about making sure that um nox 01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:42.600 is a really inclusive place particularly 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:44.920 for children and how we can integrate um 01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.279 the child's voice within our community 01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:49.640 consultation and and you know the report 01:58:49.720 --> 01:58:52.159 does does detail ways that we are 01:58:52.239 --> 01:58:54.439 already doing a really great job in that 01:58:54.520 --> 01:58:57.600 not just from our really young people um 01:58:57.680 --> 01:59:00.119 in terms of our our kindergarten um you 01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:02.439 know voices but also you know with 01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:04.640 initiatives such as Our Youth Forum um 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:07.560 with our our older young people um 01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:09.520 bringing bringing that to to our 01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:12.119 decision making so um given that 01:59:12.199 --> 01:59:13.840 realistically this already aligns with 01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.119 our principles is part of our plan cost 01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:18.720 us no extra money and gets uh gets us a 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:20.359 big tick for the stuff that we're 01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:23.279 already doing I think it's um a a really 01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.640 you know really nice tick that we can we 01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:28.079 can put onto our credentials so um happy 01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:30.000 to support 01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:32.960 tonight thank you councelor Tim Le would 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:34.680 any other councelor like to speak 01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:37.199 councelor 01:59:37.279 --> 01:59:39.880 Cooper I'm actually sitting on the fence 01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:43.199 with this one so the report talks about 01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:46.199 aligning with a Victorian Charter for 01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:49.359 child friendly cities and communities 01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:51.000 the charter talks about creating 01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:52.680 conditions to support child development 01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:54.199 and family functioning through 01:59:54.279 --> 01:59:56.520 recognizing the child voice in future 01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:01.760 city decision making and um talks about 02:00:01.840 --> 02:00:04.520 um the child voice being present in that 02:00:04.600 --> 02:00:07.359 decision making for things such as uh 02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:09.760 basic Services open space playground 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:12.479 safety social events and so 02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:15.159 on and so this doesn't mean that 02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:16.920 children's opinions will outweigh those 02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:18.479 of adults but rather that they will 02:00:18.560 --> 02:00:20.279 broaden the range of information 02:00:20.359 --> 02:00:23.239 decision makers use when making choices 02:00:23.319 --> 02:00:25.720 for the wider Community which is a very 02:00:25.800 --> 02:00:29.960 good thing but my reluctance um and I I 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.600 think what I'm I'm trying to weigh up as 02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:36.119 I'm sitting here this evening is that I 02:00:36.199 --> 02:00:38.359 generally feel quite reluctant when 02:00:38.439 --> 02:00:40.079 we're asked to adopt 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:42.359 Charters because I feel like we don't 02:00:42.439 --> 02:00:45.000 have any of the foresight to un intended 02:00:45.079 --> 02:00:48.199 consequences when we adopt Charters and 02:00:48.279 --> 02:00:51.000 as already mentioned Council already has 02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:53.760 a child youth and seniors plan and other 02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:56.880 policies which empower the child voice 02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:58.920 and we incorporate this feedback into 02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:01.079 our community and Council plans bringing 02:01:01.159 --> 02:01:03.600 the voice of the child to the for 02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:05.359 Forefront of every decision that we 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:06.520 currently 02:01:06.600 --> 02:01:09.880 make so I wonder should we adopt a 02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:13.560 charter which we as a city will have no 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:16.399 voice this Charter could potentially add 02:01:16.479 --> 02:01:18.680 expand or change its components at any 02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:20.520 time in the future without direct 02:01:20.600 --> 02:01:23.000 consultation with our Council or 02:01:23.079 --> 02:01:26.760 community and we will be aligned to it 02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:28.800 but I also appreciate that it brings a 02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:31.640 good standard of practice to every 02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:34.600 workplace so um for those counselors who 02:01:34.680 --> 02:01:37.359 haven't already spoken if if you um 02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:40.159 would like to I'd be really interested 02:01:40.239 --> 02:01:43.439 uh in hearing your views and I do have a 02:01:43.520 --> 02:01:46.680 question uh if I may ask um our director 02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:49.399 Judy Chalkley of connected 02:01:49.479 --> 02:01:52.640 communities if the charter is adopted by 02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:55.840 council tonight will it mandate any will 02:01:55.920 --> 02:01:58.800 it mandate Council in any way with 02:01:58.880 --> 02:02:00.479 regards to future 02:02:00.560 --> 02:02:02.960 decisions thank you thank you councelor 02:02:03.039 --> 02:02:04.840 Cooper director 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:07.680 Chalkley thank you three Madam mayor um 02:02:07.760 --> 02:02:09.960 no we wouldn't be mandated and at any 02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:12.600 time Council can elect to step away from 02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:14.920 it if they feel um no longer alliance 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:18.640 with um where we're wanting to go um so 02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:20.720 you know it it can be reviewed at any 02:02:20.800 --> 02:02:23.800 time 02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:26.520 thank you for the response would any 02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:29.000 other counselor say on thank you thank 02:02:29.079 --> 02:02:32.079 you um I commend counselor Cooper for 02:02:32.159 --> 02:02:35.399 her her words because I'm actually um 02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:37.479 sitting on the fence as well and and was 02:02:37.560 --> 02:02:38.920 really earing 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:42.359 on uh articulate how to best articulate 02:02:42.439 --> 02:02:44.800 how I'm feeling about this so I'm just 02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:47.640 going to speak my mind when I when I 02:02:47.720 --> 02:02:49.479 read the and hopefully not get myself in 02:02:49.560 --> 02:02:52.640 trouble um when I read read the report 02:02:52.720 --> 02:02:57.520 it really concerns me that um I don't 02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:00.399 want things to come across as soft or 02:03:00.479 --> 02:03:04.359 virtue signaling or that we're adopting 02:03:04.439 --> 02:03:07.199 these um policies and chart or these 02:03:07.279 --> 02:03:10.520 Charters and sending a signal that we 02:03:10.600 --> 02:03:15.199 don't actually deliver on so for example 02:03:15.279 --> 02:03:17.640 um and I'll I'll loot back in a minute 02:03:17.720 --> 02:03:20.640 where I'm conflicted um so for example 02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:23.439 we do consultation and our playgrounds 02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:25.159 we go out we go to the local primary 02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:27.119 schools we ask the kids what do you want 02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:29.560 at your local playground what equipment 02:03:29.640 --> 02:03:32.399 would you like and then we go and build 02:03:32.479 --> 02:03:34.439 a playground but it doesn't actually 02:03:34.520 --> 02:03:36.319 close the loop or link back to the 02:03:36.399 --> 02:03:39.439 priorities that the kids talked 02:03:39.520 --> 02:03:42.680 about at the sport Awards the other 02:03:42.760 --> 02:03:44.840 night we had a fantastic guest speaker 02:03:44.920 --> 02:03:46.560 and one of the questions that I 02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:50.359 specifically asked was around Community 02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:52.960 facilities and 02:03:53.039 --> 02:03:55.640 um because she was talking about making 02:03:55.720 --> 02:04:00.600 the facilities more um gender neutral or 02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:03.640 welcoming for for girls for 02:04:03.720 --> 02:04:05.960 participation and one of the things that 02:04:06.039 --> 02:04:08.920 she came back is to say are we actually 02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:13.079 asking our kids do they feel safe in our 02:04:13.159 --> 02:04:15.439 Pavilions or our sporting grounds in our 02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:18.680 public toilets where are we getting that 02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:22.079 feedback um so there's a whole a lot of 02:04:22.159 --> 02:04:25.319 things that we're doing where we can say 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:29.600 voice of child is really important but 02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:31.279 when it comes to the delivery and 02:04:31.359 --> 02:04:34.359 execution there's a massive Gap so 02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:36.520 therefore is it 02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:40.159 tokenistic um I think there is Merit in 02:04:40.239 --> 02:04:42.880 saying that we prioritize our children 02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:46.239 and their voice um carries weight it's 02:04:46.319 --> 02:04:47.960 really important we saw that early on in 02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:51.880 the early years um reforms over many 02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:53.479 years it was really 02:04:53.560 --> 02:04:55.880 worthwhile but I don't want to hang our 02:04:55.960 --> 02:04:59.600 hat on this and I where my conflict came 02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:01.920 was I spoke very passionately about 02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:04.680 becoming an age friendly City so I'm 02:05:04.760 --> 02:05:07.520 like how can I say yes to age friendly 02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:09.439 but feel uncomfortable about child 02:05:09.520 --> 02:05:11.479 friendly aren't they the 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:15.319 same and they're not exactly the same so 02:05:15.399 --> 02:05:17.960 when we were talking about age friendly 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:20.239 a lot of the emphasis in the report was 02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:22.439 around making sure from an 02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:25.159 infrastructure perspective that we're 02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:26.640 accessible and 02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:31.800 inclusive whereas this is more around um 02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:34.079 that in uh involvement in governance 02:05:34.159 --> 02:05:36.239 decision making okay I'm not going to 02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:38.039 ask for an extension because it'll take 02:05:38.119 --> 02:05:41.239 too long um I'm conflicted on this I 02:05:41.319 --> 02:05:43.359 think we probably need to do it but like 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:45.720 councelor Cooper uh we need to keep the 02:05:45.800 --> 02:05:48.119 range time thank counc I'd actually 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:49.680 really like to hear what you were saying 02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:51.960 so I'll move a procedural motion for an 02:05:52.039 --> 02:05:54.640 extension of time sure seconded by 02:05:54.720 --> 02:05:57.199 councelor keeper all those in favor 02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:01.000 thank you um yeah so what I was saying 02:06:01.079 --> 02:06:04.760 is that when we're comparing being an um 02:06:04.840 --> 02:06:07.760 an age friendly city which was under the 02:06:07.840 --> 02:06:10.680 context of our seniors in actual fact 02:06:10.760 --> 02:06:12.680 from my perspective the principles of 02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:15.640 that should be reflective of every age 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:18.359 not just our seniors And yet when I'm 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:20.640 looking at this particular child 02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:24.439 friendlies Charter the emphasis is more 02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:26.920 around that strategic involvement in 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:29.119 decision making making sure the voices 02:06:29.199 --> 02:06:32.920 are heard and we as a council would have 02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:36.560 a lot of work to do to make sure that we 02:06:36.640 --> 02:06:39.279 have the processes in place to 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:41.680 appropriately capture that and reflect 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:45.000 it and then be true to it because it's 02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:48.720 that last bit where I think um we fall 02:06:48.800 --> 02:06:51.039 down and that was certainly one of the 02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:53.000 strong m messages that came through from 02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:56.399 the sport Awards with you know ask our 02:06:56.479 --> 02:06:58.279 our young people when it when we're 02:06:58.359 --> 02:07:00.600 talking about our sporting Pavilion and 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:03.079 upgrades and so on do you feel 02:07:03.159 --> 02:07:07.640 safe and yeah so that that's where I'm 02:07:07.720 --> 02:07:11.239 sitting thank you counselor seore what 02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:14.600 any other counselor counselor PE thank 02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:17.920 you thanks Madame mayor 02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.560 um I was probably going to be quiet on 02:07:20.640 --> 02:07:22.159 this one tonight but I have to say I'm 02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:24.680 sitting a bit uncomfortable too when I 02:07:24.760 --> 02:07:26.880 read the paragraph that 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:32.039 says that um this Embrace this um 02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:34.520 alignance with International protocols 02:07:34.600 --> 02:07:36.520 and embrace Embraces the universal 02:07:36.600 --> 02:07:38.760 rights of the child from birth to 17 02:07:38.840 --> 02:07:41.560 years of age is defined in the United 02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:43.560 Nations convention on the rights of the 02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:45.680 child the United Nations sustainable 02:07:45.760 --> 02:07:47.079 development 02:07:47.159 --> 02:07:49.760 goals and the principle of giving 02:07:49.840 --> 02:07:51.720 freedom of for children to express their 02:07:51.800 --> 02:07:53.640 individual opinions have a right to have 02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:56.880 these considering de that affect them is 02:07:56.960 --> 02:07:58.720 anyone serious suggesting a 5-year-old 02:07:58.800 --> 02:08:00.840 can make an informed decision I mean one 02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:03.119 thing we've all got in common all nine 02:08:03.199 --> 02:08:06.920 of us is we've had children been early 02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:10.159 years teenage years some are now young 02:08:10.239 --> 02:08:14.760 adults some are not but the idea the you 02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:17.600 are not emotionally and mature enough at 02:08:17.680 --> 02:08:20.039 a certain certain ages to make certain 02:08:20.119 --> 02:08:22.439 decisions that's just a simple fact of 02:08:22.520 --> 02:08:26.399 life and what concerns me is every time 02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:29.000 I he at the United Nations here we go 02:08:29.079 --> 02:08:32.039 with a an organization that has no 02:08:32.119 --> 02:08:34.640 political mandate has no mandate for the 02:08:34.720 --> 02:08:37.720 people of KNX and we're framing Council 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:40.039 policy around what I see is a rotten 02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:41.840 corrupt 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:45.039 organization so I'm going to leave it 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:47.760 there but I really really set off a lan 02:08:47.840 --> 02:08:49.880 bills for me when I'm thinking about the 02:08:49.960 --> 02:08:52.880 law of unanticipated at consequences 02:08:52.960 --> 02:08:54.479 that could play I don't know what they'd 02:08:54.560 --> 02:08:57.760 be but once you open the door on these 02:08:57.840 --> 02:09:00.680 things I've got real 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.199 concerns thank you councelor pleas would 02:09:03.279 --> 02:09:05.960 any other councel Council LA and then 02:09:06.039 --> 02:09:11.560 councel do you may Dwight um I actually 02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:14.960 um when I see these Charters um and it's 02:09:15.039 --> 02:09:19.159 a part of the children youth and seniors 02:09:19.239 --> 02:09:22.079 overall plan that we had that this um 02:09:22.159 --> 02:09:25.399 was an action plan out of that and I 02:09:25.479 --> 02:09:28.880 really see them as an opportunity to um 02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:32.159 when we are developing a plan like a the 02:09:32.239 --> 02:09:37.359 baywater parking plan um or a playground 02:09:37.439 --> 02:09:40.960 out outdoor plan it gives us a framework 02:09:41.039 --> 02:09:44.000 for officers um and our community to 02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.640 ensure that we make sure that we 02:09:46.720 --> 02:09:50.760 consider the views of that cohort of 02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:54.079 child and put a lens of what our 02:09:54.159 --> 02:09:55.880 children their 02:09:55.960 --> 02:09:59.039 developmental um opportunities the how 02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:01.880 they Milestones making sure that we have 02:10:01.960 --> 02:10:05.720 a infrastructure or Community facilities 02:10:05.800 --> 02:10:08.039 or spaces that 02:10:08.119 --> 02:10:11.720 are fit for purpose for all ages and 02:10:11.800 --> 02:10:14.600 stages in our community I see this as a 02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:17.359 framework that our officers can go okay 02:10:17.439 --> 02:10:19.600 let's con make sure that we consider and 02:10:19.680 --> 02:10:21.880 put that lens over like we're putting 02:10:21.960 --> 02:10:24.520 the lens over with our disability or 02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:27.039 active aging it's an opportunity to keep 02:10:27.119 --> 02:10:29.600 in the front of our mind for offices 02:10:29.680 --> 02:10:32.279 when we are developing strategies how do 02:10:32.359 --> 02:10:35.159 we consider this and even recently in 02:10:35.239 --> 02:10:38.439 the um the cycling plan I'm sure it was 02:10:38.520 --> 02:10:39.960 a cycling plan or one that we had 02:10:40.039 --> 02:10:42.560 recently in the community engagement we 02:10:42.640 --> 02:10:45.880 saw that the uh our officers went out to 02:10:45.960 --> 02:10:47.680 our kindergarten through our long 02:10:47.760 --> 02:10:50.680 daycare and they asked the children 02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:53.000 there obviously three four and five what 02:10:53.079 --> 02:10:54.720 they were like and they gave us in their 02:10:54.800 --> 02:10:57.039 drawing their picture what was important 02:10:57.119 --> 02:10:59.880 to them someone drove a uh a school 02:10:59.960 --> 02:11:02.640 crossing so there is an opportunity to 02:11:02.720 --> 02:11:05.239 go out yes they can't tell us but what 02:11:05.319 --> 02:11:07.039 is in it there for their mind and it's 02:11:07.119 --> 02:11:08.560 just an opportunity to have at the front 02:11:08.640 --> 02:11:11.520 of our mind as decision makers that we 02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:14.079 consider everyone in our community it's 02:11:14.159 --> 02:11:16.279 not about it's uh it's just keeping 02:11:16.359 --> 02:11:19.079 children at the front of the strategy 02:11:19.159 --> 02:11:21.199 and giving us a framework of cons 02:11:21.279 --> 02:11:24.039 considering what we do that we think 02:11:24.119 --> 02:11:27.239 about our children like we consider our 02:11:27.319 --> 02:11:30.039 disabilities like we consider our aged 02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:32.159 this is a charter to consider our 02:11:32.239 --> 02:11:35.960 children and putting that front of 02:11:36.039 --> 02:11:39.000 mind thank you Council Lain Council 02:11:39.079 --> 02:11:40.880 question Madam e certainly and is 02:11:40.960 --> 02:11:44.359 address to council lkin yes Council Lain 02:11:44.439 --> 02:11:46.479 Are you seriously saying that we would 02:11:46.560 --> 02:11:49.399 seriously consider amending uh doing 02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:52.039 Capital works or changing service 02:11:52.119 --> 02:11:54.119 programs based on children's drawings in 02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:56.960 preschool okay so I'm not going to allow 02:11:57.039 --> 02:11:58.800 the question because it will start 02:11:58.880 --> 02:12:01.880 debate and you've both spoken I think 02:12:01.960 --> 02:12:03.680 your Point's made and I think councilor 02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:07.560 loin made her point also councelor 02:12:07.640 --> 02:12:10.720 Baker thank you and commend counselor 02:12:10.800 --> 02:12:13.199 Cooper for raising her concerns because 02:12:13.279 --> 02:12:16.079 likewise I've had reservations with this 02:12:16.159 --> 02:12:20.119 report also um a very questionable one 02:12:20.199 --> 02:12:22.159 when I read through it 02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:24.560 um and I think what stands out for me is 02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.159 that it won't impose any additional 02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:28.039 duties or regulations on Council which 02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:29.920 then makes me question while why are we 02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:33.199 doing it um and for me reading through 02:12:33.279 --> 02:12:35.760 this um we've al already got had 02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:38.479 policies that are in place that we 02:12:38.560 --> 02:12:41.079 address um with meeting the needs of our 02:12:41.159 --> 02:12:45.319 community feedback um so I I just think 02:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.079 is this just another you know imple 02:12:48.159 --> 02:12:51.399 implementation that it's just another 02:12:51.479 --> 02:12:54.960 framework and it's just compounding so 02:12:55.039 --> 02:12:56.720 similarly I'm finding it really quite 02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:00.319 challenging to sit and you know 02:13:00.399 --> 02:13:02.399 potentially include this in future 02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:04.800 reports thank you thank you councilor 02:13:04.880 --> 02:13:07.439 Baker I will take the moment to ask a 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:10.119 question of director Chalkley um I would 02:13:10.199 --> 02:13:12.159 just like to understand what passing the 02:13:12.239 --> 02:13:14.680 motion this motion tonight achieves that 02:13:14.760 --> 02:13:16.560 we're not achieving through our child 02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:18.960 seniors and a child Youth and seniors 02:13:19.039 --> 02:13:22.039 plan 02:13:22.640 --> 02:13:24.840 thank you three Madame May um I think 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:27.720 what this does is allows us to um you 02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:30.680 know also connect with other councils 02:13:30.760 --> 02:13:33.680 that are also a child friendly city um 02:13:33.760 --> 02:13:37.520 it allows us to um you know promote 02:13:37.600 --> 02:13:39.479 ourselves as a child's friendly City so 02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:41.119 the community are aware that we're we're 02:13:41.199 --> 02:13:43.800 supporting them um as well I think it 02:13:43.880 --> 02:13:46.119 just allows us that more broader 02:13:46.199 --> 02:13:48.399 acknowledgement of what we're doing um 02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:50.159 there is as I said there's no mandate 02:13:50.239 --> 02:13:52.560 with this um it is just to recognize as 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:55.600 we did with the age friendly cities and 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:58.159 um D friendly cities that we're looking 02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:00.079 at it more broadly and we're ensuring 02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:01.760 that we're hearing the voices of 02:14:01.840 --> 02:14:05.079 children um in whatever way they come um 02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:08.199 to help us inform decisions um about 02:14:08.279 --> 02:14:10.720 what's needed in the community for young 02:14:10.800 --> 02:14:14.000 people thank you Judy councilor Gro 02:14:14.079 --> 02:14:16.119 would you like to 02:14:16.199 --> 02:14:21.119 speak thank you M white M white um 02:14:21.199 --> 02:14:23.760 the report we're told that the charter 02:14:23.840 --> 02:14:26.920 focuses on three key 02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:30.520 principles not just one but three and 02:14:30.600 --> 02:14:33.880 the first one is act in the best 02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:35.560 interest of the 02:14:35.640 --> 02:14:38.079 child the second one freedom for 02:14:38.159 --> 02:14:39.880 children to express their individual 02:14:39.960 --> 02:14:41.720 opinions and right to have these 02:14:41.800 --> 02:14:44.760 considered in decisions that affect them 02:14:44.840 --> 02:14:48.000 so as um director Chalkley pointed out 02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:50.199 this is not mandated but it's a 02:14:50.279 --> 02:14:52.479 consideration 02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:55.920 and the third key principle create 02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:59.800 Equity create equity for all children 02:14:59.880 --> 02:15:03.159 based on their needs now this could mean 02:15:03.239 --> 02:15:06.079 um inclusive playgrounds playgrounds 02:15:06.159 --> 02:15:08.560 that um are for all 02:15:08.640 --> 02:15:10.920 abilities um for children using 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:14.680 wheelchairs for children um affected by 02:15:14.760 --> 02:15:19.960 um you know various um challenges so um 02:15:20.039 --> 02:15:21.880 I just wanted to highlight it is not 02:15:21.960 --> 02:15:24.079 just that one principle it is in fact 02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:26.560 three 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.079 principles thank you councelor Gro I do 02:15:30.159 --> 02:15:33.159 have a further question if you indulge 02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:39.439 me uh is um this Charter taking on this 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:41.479 Charter as a council an action 02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:43.479 identified in our child Youth and 02:15:43.560 --> 02:15:46.159 seniors 02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:51.600 plan uh through you madam me yes it was 02:15:56.399 --> 02:15:58.960 I really appreciate that I'm I've got 02:15:59.039 --> 02:16:01.359 everybody yes I really appreciate the 02:16:01.439 --> 02:16:02.680 debate that's occurred on this one 02:16:02.760 --> 02:16:04.199 tonight I'm really glad that we've been 02:16:04.279 --> 02:16:06.439 able to flesh out the various issues 02:16:06.520 --> 02:16:08.960 that we have to consider in in accepting 02:16:09.039 --> 02:16:11.680 this motion um that's been presented for 02:16:11.760 --> 02:16:15.560 us tonight um I I can't help thinking 02:16:15.640 --> 02:16:17.479 and I hope that I'm not drawing a long a 02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:20.399 long bow but we have had requests 02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:22.680 earlier this year to support motions for 02:16:22.760 --> 02:16:26.960 things that are outside our remit um and 02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:29.079 I am a little bit concerned with some of 02:16:29.159 --> 02:16:31.000 the issues that have been raised by 02:16:31.079 --> 02:16:33.239 councilor Cooper and councelor Simo 02:16:33.319 --> 02:16:36.799 particularly um that this is beyond what 02:16:36.879 --> 02:16:40.079 we um what we should be accepting as our 02:16:40.159 --> 02:16:43.959 remit for the nox Community um so I'm 02:16:44.040 --> 02:16:46.760 struggling also and I think I'm stalling 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:48.879 while I try and make a decision 02:16:48.959 --> 02:16:50.200 councelor Cooper would you like your 02:16:50.280 --> 02:16:52.840 right of reply 02:16:54.520 --> 02:16:55.719 I actually don't sorry it wasn't 02:16:55.799 --> 02:16:57.040 counselor Cooper I need to go to 02:16:57.120 --> 02:16:59.879 councelor ored I'm so sorry councelor or 02:16:59.959 --> 02:17:00.959 thank 02:17:01.040 --> 02:17:03.639 you uh thank you a lot of points have 02:17:03.719 --> 02:17:05.680 been picked up already I I just want to 02:17:05.760 --> 02:17:08.559 reiterate that um you know by adopting 02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:10.479 this Charter we are declaring that we 02:17:10.559 --> 02:17:12.520 support children and young people to be 02:17:12.600 --> 02:17:15.159 active citizens um embracing the 02:17:15.239 --> 02:17:17.200 principles of the charter for the child 02:17:17.280 --> 02:17:18.799 friendly cities and communities creates 02:17:18.879 --> 02:17:21.760 a vibrant and welcoming community that 02:17:21.840 --> 02:17:24.000 has the potential to revitalize and 02:17:24.079 --> 02:17:26.280 enhance the cultural life of the city 02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:28.959 and strengthen the livability of our 02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:32.639 neighborhoods by not adopting um we have 02:17:32.719 --> 02:17:34.680 therefore inherent R risks to the 02:17:34.760 --> 02:17:36.799 organization in relation to reputation 02:17:36.879 --> 02:17:38.600 and perception that that children and 02:17:38.680 --> 02:17:40.959 young people are not prioritized in 02:17:41.040 --> 02:17:44.360 matters relating to council they are our 02:17:44.440 --> 02:17:46.879 future that's all I have to say thank 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:49.799 you thank you councelor or I'm so sorry 02:17:49.879 --> 02:17:51.879 that I didn't go to 02:17:51.959 --> 02:17:54.879 you all right with that I will put the 02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:57.760 motion as per the recommendation in our 02:17:57.840 --> 02:18:01.440 agenda all those in 02:18:03.200 --> 02:18:06.719 favor all those 02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:12.200 opposed that motion is carried 02:18:23.879 --> 02:18:26.120 all 02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:36.520 right 8.8 revised instrument of 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:39.360 Delegation to members of council staff 02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:41.360 would a councelor like to move a 02:18:41.440 --> 02:18:44.680 motion thank you councelor Baker As per 02:18:44.760 --> 02:18:46.840 the officer's recommendation is there a 02:18:46.920 --> 02:18:49.639 secondary for this 02:18:49.719 --> 02:18:54.159 item councelor Cooper thank 02:18:55.440 --> 02:18:57.639 you councelor Baker would you like to 02:18:57.719 --> 02:19:01.040 speak just uh very briefly this is an ad 02:19:01.120 --> 02:19:03.959 administrative uh report just reflecting 02:19:04.040 --> 02:19:05.760 changes to position titles within the 02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:08.479 organization for the cemetery in fantry 02:19:08.559 --> 02:19:10.639 alley thank 02:19:10.719 --> 02:19:14.200 you thank you councelor Baker councelor 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:16.520 Cooper would any other councel like to 02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:18.399 speak to this 02:19:18.479 --> 02:19:20.959 one okay I'll now put the mtion motion 02:19:21.040 --> 02:19:23.600 all those in 02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:27.920 favor the motion I think can you guys 02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:29.200 hold your hands up a little bit longer 02:19:29.280 --> 02:19:32.440 for me all those in favor that motion is 02:19:32.520 --> 02:19:35.200 carried thank 02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:43.319 you okay item 8.9 Capital Works program 02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:46.840 update thank you um I've just got a 02:19:46.920 --> 02:19:48.360 computer issue going 02:19:48.440 --> 02:19:51.879 on uh would a counselor like to a 02:19:51.959 --> 02:19:54.559 motion I'll move is to the officer's 02:19:54.639 --> 02:19:57.040 recommendation thank you councilor loin 02:19:57.120 --> 02:20:00.200 is there a second for this 02:20:00.280 --> 02:20:03.639 motion sorry councelor Gro thank you 02:20:03.719 --> 02:20:06.600 councelor Lain would you like to speak 02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:08.840 through you may this um report uh 02:20:08.920 --> 02:20:10.840 Capital Works program is an update of 02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:12.559 our infrastructure that we've committed 02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:15.879 to for the year um this is the last oh 02:20:15.959 --> 02:20:17.680 no we have one more before I know this 02:20:17.760 --> 02:20:20.040 is the last one before the end of year 02:20:20.120 --> 02:20:23.440 we'll get it IND of VI report um but for 02:20:23.520 --> 02:20:25.280 me I just want to put on the record uh I 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:26.760 know there's been some issues with the 02:20:26.840 --> 02:20:29.639 knoxfield shopping center public toilet 02:20:29.719 --> 02:20:31.479 and in here it's on the um list to be 02:20:31.559 --> 02:20:34.559 completed at Construction in early 2425 02:20:34.639 --> 02:20:37.639 so I'm happy to provide Assurance to the 02:20:37.719 --> 02:20:40.760 um the users of that toilet and thank 02:20:40.840 --> 02:20:43.680 the the team for making sure it is 02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:45.959 cleaned and nursed through until we can 02:20:46.040 --> 02:20:49.000 demolish and uh rebuild uh but also 02:20:49.079 --> 02:20:50.319 equally happy to see that there's a 02:20:50.399 --> 02:20:52.920 carent carington Park um toilet on the 02:20:53.000 --> 02:20:54.840 schedule as well obviously with all our 02:20:54.920 --> 02:20:56.559 playgrounds and extra infrastructure at 02:20:56.639 --> 02:20:59.000 Carrington Park um it's nice to see that 02:20:59.079 --> 02:21:00.399 there's a toilet there as well we do 02:21:00.479 --> 02:21:02.760 know that our Community Values them uh 02:21:02.840 --> 02:21:04.319 it has been sad to see that some have 02:21:04.399 --> 02:21:06.719 even been vandalized frequent but we 02:21:06.799 --> 02:21:08.319 know overall um they are an 02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:09.920 exceptionally valued asset in our 02:21:10.000 --> 02:21:13.000 community thank you thank you councilor 02:21:13.079 --> 02:21:17.040 Lins councelor graer 02:21:23.319 --> 02:21:25.840 not much to add um Lewis park though 02:21:25.920 --> 02:21:27.520 stage he works progressing with 02:21:27.600 --> 02:21:29.840 pedestrian bridge over Creek installed 02:21:29.920 --> 02:21:31.440 so I just wanted to highlight that as 02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:33.920 well but that's it for me thank you 02:21:34.000 --> 02:21:35.719 councilor gr I have a question for 02:21:35.799 --> 02:21:38.280 director Thorne what's your question 02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:42.239 councilor it relates to item project 02:21:42.319 --> 02:21:45.239 number 1515 on page 02:21:45.319 --> 02:21:48.719 485 major Cresent Reserve list to Fi 02:21:48.799 --> 02:21:51.959 landscape plan implementation 02:21:52.040 --> 02:21:54.440 and what is your question my question is 02:21:54.520 --> 02:22:00.719 that I was assured at the meeting in 02:22:00.799 --> 02:22:04.719 May that sorry May or April that the 02:22:04.799 --> 02:22:07.319 contract had been awarded and 02:22:07.399 --> 02:22:09.959 the construction work would definitely 02:22:10.040 --> 02:22:12.120 start before the end of the financial 02:22:12.200 --> 02:22:15.520 year was stated in this chamber and now 02:22:15.600 --> 02:22:17.920 I find that it's going to commence in 02:22:18.000 --> 02:22:21.280 August 2024 I'd like to know why 02:22:21.360 --> 02:22:24.200 the commitment hadn't been honored thank 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:25.879 you councelor Pier director Thor would 02:22:25.959 --> 02:22:27.559 you like to 02:22:27.639 --> 02:22:30.360 respond uh through your mayor thank you 02:22:30.440 --> 02:22:31.840 councel PE for the question I'll need to 02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:34.559 follow that up uh to the commitment was 02:22:34.639 --> 02:22:36.040 made and the reason with the delay and 02:22:36.120 --> 02:22:39.120 I'll um send a note to 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:41.200 councilors thank you director Thor 02:22:41.280 --> 02:22:42.840 councelor P would you like to speak to 02:22:42.920 --> 02:22:45.520 the item would any other counselor like 02:22:45.600 --> 02:22:47.079 to speak to this 02:22:47.159 --> 02:22:49.879 item I'll now put the motion all those 02:22:49.959 --> 02:22:53.319 in oh sorry I need to ask you're happy 02:22:53.399 --> 02:22:56.959 thank you um on our fourth motion all 02:22:57.040 --> 02:23:01.559 those in favor that motion is carried 02:23:01.639 --> 02:23:04.600 thanks okay moving to item nine 02:23:04.680 --> 02:23:07.079 supplementary items tonight there are 02:23:07.159 --> 02:23:11.040 none item 10 notices of motion 10.1 02:23:11.120 --> 02:23:16.239 notice of motion number 15 150 rates uh 02:23:16.319 --> 02:23:18.159 this notice of motion was put forward by 02:23:18.239 --> 02:23:20.159 councelor Darren Pierce councelor Pierce 02:23:20.239 --> 02:23:21.799 would would you like to move the motion 02:23:21.879 --> 02:23:24.840 as shown on the screen as moved as um 02:23:24.920 --> 02:23:28.120 hang on wait for it to come on the 02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:31.959 screen as will be shown you're 02:23:32.040 --> 02:23:35.040 right yes as move on the screen thank 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:37.319 you councelor pier and do you have a 02:23:37.399 --> 02:23:40.760 second for the motion not specifically 02:23:40.840 --> 02:23:44.079 is there a seconder for this 02:23:44.319 --> 02:23:47.559 motion councelor S councelor Pier would 02:23:47.639 --> 02:23:49.399 you like to speak to the motion I will 02:23:49.479 --> 02:23:51.040 mate Madame thank thank you and I think 02:23:51.120 --> 02:23:54.000 this is important for the point of view 02:23:54.079 --> 02:23:56.920 of transparency coming forward into the 02:23:57.000 --> 02:23:59.520 next election originally I wanted to 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:02.879 move notice a motion that that would 02:24:02.959 --> 02:24:05.600 codify that the council would not seek a 02:24:05.680 --> 02:24:08.719 rate cap exemption exemp exemption the 02:24:08.799 --> 02:24:10.920 next term of council and of course the 02:24:11.000 --> 02:24:12.520 new council could have overridden that 02:24:12.600 --> 02:24:16.479 if they so choose but I I believe that 02:24:16.559 --> 02:24:17.920 given all the debate we've had tonight 02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:22.600 over the budget that we should Pro L um 02:24:22.680 --> 02:24:25.920 we should proactively say that we in the 02:24:26.000 --> 02:24:28.840 long-term Financial forecast are not 02:24:28.920 --> 02:24:32.840 proposing any rate cap exemption 02:24:32.920 --> 02:24:35.639 whatsoever we are not resourcing 02:24:35.719 --> 02:24:39.639 anything behind the scenes to um gear up 02:24:39.719 --> 02:24:41.639 for our R cap 02:24:41.719 --> 02:24:45.920 submission and I think that um I'll be 02:24:46.000 --> 02:24:48.120 asking for a division on this because I 02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:50.520 want every rayer out there to know what 02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:54.200 the position of the council is moving 02:24:54.280 --> 02:24:56.920 forward um moving forward into the 02:24:57.000 --> 02:24:58.840 election they have a right to know what 02:24:58.920 --> 02:25:02.239 the position of council was 02:25:02.319 --> 02:25:05.680 are thank you councelor P councelor Simo 02:25:05.760 --> 02:25:08.440 would you like to speak yeah thank 02:25:08.520 --> 02:25:12.440 you um this notice of motion is actually 02:25:12.520 --> 02:25:15.559 a far cry from where councilor Pierce 02:25:15.639 --> 02:25:19.280 was originally intending to go um which 02:25:19.360 --> 02:25:22.440 I didn't agree with at all um but this 02:25:22.520 --> 02:25:24.760 particular notice of motion is really a 02:25:24.840 --> 02:25:26.079 statement of 02:25:26.159 --> 02:25:29.639 fact um both are a statement of fact of 02:25:29.719 --> 02:25:32.239 noting what is in the budget that we 02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:33.280 just 02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:38.159 approved so for me when I read this um 02:25:38.239 --> 02:25:39.920 to support the notice of motion is 02:25:40.000 --> 02:25:43.079 really an affirmation of the assumptions 02:25:43.159 --> 02:25:45.559 that underpinned the budget that we just 02:25:45.639 --> 02:25:48.280 adopted I have absolutely no problem 02:25:48.360 --> 02:25:50.959 putting my name to that this notice of 02:25:51.040 --> 02:25:54.440 motion is not doing is locking a future 02:25:54.520 --> 02:25:58.840 Council in to the assumptions of 02:25:58.920 --> 02:26:02.479 our um budget that we've just adopted it 02:26:02.559 --> 02:26:05.719 is um telegraphing I guess to those that 02:26:05.799 --> 02:26:09.079 come Hereafter once the election's done 02:26:09.159 --> 02:26:12.239 and dusted to say the assumptions of 02:26:12.319 --> 02:26:17.120 this councilor group was this 02:26:17.200 --> 02:26:20.479 um accepting the rate cap for the next 4 02:26:20.559 --> 02:26:25.440 years 1 2 3 4 yep um and that we're not 02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:27.440 doing any work to prepare a rate cap 02:26:27.520 --> 02:26:31.680 variation which is truth we're not um so 02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:33.360 I have no problem in supporting this 02:26:33.440 --> 02:26:35.799 it's just an affirmation of existing 02:26:35.879 --> 02:26:38.159 position thank you thank you councelor 02:26:38.239 --> 02:26:39.840 Seymour would any other counselor like 02:26:39.920 --> 02:26:43.639 to speak to this notice of 02:26:48.479 --> 02:26:52.559 motion uh councelor as 02:26:54.040 --> 02:26:56.879 Le um I'm actually really struggling 02:26:56.959 --> 02:27:00.159 with this notice of motion because to me 02:27:00.239 --> 02:27:03.639 this is just debate that would have come 02:27:03.719 --> 02:27:07.520 within a budget um debate piece earlier 02:27:07.600 --> 02:27:10.840 tonight I'm don't believe that this is 02:27:10.920 --> 02:27:13.799 the intent of what notices of motion are 02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:17.280 to be and it just feels like political 02:27:17.360 --> 02:27:21.200 virtual signaling that's not necessary 02:27:21.280 --> 02:27:25.680 so um I really I'm struggling to see 02:27:25.760 --> 02:27:27.440 what it's trying to achieve and I think 02:27:27.520 --> 02:27:29.920 that it's actually 02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:32.840 um I don't see this being a good use of 02:27:32.920 --> 02:27:36.120 resources to have this notice of motion 02:27:36.200 --> 02:27:38.479 even appear as 02:27:38.559 --> 02:27:42.920 a as a as a minuted item um to me if if 02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:46.239 this would I mean the the proposed um 02:27:46.319 --> 02:27:48.440 budget being in line with rate cap well 02:27:48.520 --> 02:27:50.479 that's actually already demonst ated 02:27:50.559 --> 02:27:53.559 within the budget that is happening um 02:27:53.639 --> 02:27:56.239 and the application for a rate cap 02:27:56.319 --> 02:27:58.079 variation I don't I don't see what what 02:27:58.159 --> 02:28:00.319 the point is of of having that 02:28:00.399 --> 02:28:04.360 documented or not um I agree it's Truth 02:28:04.440 --> 02:28:07.600 uh but I'm just I'm struggling with the 02:28:07.680 --> 02:28:09.680 use of a notice of motion for this 02:28:09.760 --> 02:28:11.799 purpose so for that reason I won't be 02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:13.079 supporting it 02:28:13.159 --> 02:28:16.639 tonight thank you councelor Tim Le would 02:28:16.719 --> 02:28:20.959 any other counselor like to speak 02:28:22.159 --> 02:28:26.040 through you m Dwight sorry 02:28:26.120 --> 02:28:28.479 um this notice of motion it's on the 02:28:28.559 --> 02:28:31.639 public record it's here um it's notice 02:28:31.719 --> 02:28:36.200 of motion number 1 for rates um and it 02:28:36.280 --> 02:28:39.079 is today and you're right this has come 02:28:39.159 --> 02:28:41.920 after our budget we have a budget 02:28:42.000 --> 02:28:44.920 document in here that actually outlines 02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:47.600 what the in the long-term Financial 02:28:47.680 --> 02:28:50.239 forecast what our rate cap will be and 02:28:50.319 --> 02:28:52.399 that's what we're anticipating um our 02:28:52.479 --> 02:28:54.639 rates will be but as we know we've gone 02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:57.399 through an extensive budget process 02:28:57.479 --> 02:29:00.760 every year to manage our budget that 02:29:00.840 --> 02:29:04.799 happens every year we have um we have um 02:29:04.879 --> 02:29:07.600 principles and that's the first one to 02:29:07.680 --> 02:29:11.159 not the proposed budget presented um 02:29:11.239 --> 02:29:14.280 tonight we presented our budget does not 02:29:14.360 --> 02:29:16.639 allocate resources there was no 02:29:16.719 --> 02:29:19.280 discussion about a rate cap variation so 02:29:19.360 --> 02:29:21.879 I agree with Seymour and I agree with 02:29:21.959 --> 02:29:24.760 councelor timus leech notice the motion 02:29:24.840 --> 02:29:27.239 I don't agree but there's nothing here 02:29:27.319 --> 02:29:31.159 that's not um of Truth so it is in the 02:29:31.239 --> 02:29:35.079 public domain um it is truth that we've 02:29:35.159 --> 02:29:37.600 set the financial years as a rate cap 02:29:37.680 --> 02:29:39.559 and we have no application for a rate 02:29:39.639 --> 02:29:42.479 cap variation so I agree I will support 02:29:42.559 --> 02:29:44.600 it because it's the truth there is 02:29:44.680 --> 02:29:46.239 nothing I've got nothing to hide there's 02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:48.200 nothing that we've not said in here that 02:29:48.280 --> 02:29:50.680 we're not doing there is no no rap 02:29:50.760 --> 02:29:54.520 discussion at this uh sorry A variation 02:29:54.600 --> 02:29:56.120 on the 02:29:56.200 --> 02:29:59.360 table thank you Council loin would any 02:29:59.440 --> 02:30:01.159 other counselor like to 02:30:01.239 --> 02:30:04.680 speak councelor 02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:07.840 ored I'm really not adding much more to 02:30:07.920 --> 02:30:11.120 the debate here um whilst I understand 02:30:11.200 --> 02:30:14.440 Council pe's position I still don't 02:30:14.520 --> 02:30:16.280 really see how the this clearly 02:30:16.360 --> 02:30:19.040 articulates the intended outcomes or 02:30:19.120 --> 02:30:22.479 even benefits of the proposed or any 02:30:22.559 --> 02:30:24.719 rate changes for any policy change to 02:30:24.799 --> 02:30:27.559 gain support um especially one is 02:30:27.639 --> 02:30:30.319 impactful as as rates adjustment it it 02:30:30.399 --> 02:30:32.879 must really Define the goals and the 02:30:32.959 --> 02:30:34.520 advantages that it might bring to the 02:30:34.600 --> 02:30:36.479 community and I don't think this motion 02:30:36.559 --> 02:30:38.840 really explains how any changes will 02:30:38.920 --> 02:30:41.120 improve services or infrastructure or 02:30:41.200 --> 02:30:43.520 overall um Financial Health of the 02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:46.639 council so I'm I'm a bit of a loss but I 02:30:46.719 --> 02:30:49.040 hear what you're saying Council Lin so 02:30:49.120 --> 02:30:51.040 you know I'm not AOS to it I just don't 02:30:51.120 --> 02:30:54.000 understand its Merit 02:30:55.079 --> 02:30:58.920 really thank you councilor 02:31:00.040 --> 02:31:02.079 orid Council 02:31:02.159 --> 02:31:05.040 Cooper similar to council ored I don't 02:31:05.120 --> 02:31:06.879 think what I have to say really adds to 02:31:06.959 --> 02:31:09.360 debate other than I I completely support 02:31:09.440 --> 02:31:11.000 it I think I don't think there's 02:31:11.079 --> 02:31:12.799 anything wrong with um making a 02:31:12.879 --> 02:31:15.920 statement which extracts data um 02:31:16.000 --> 02:31:17.079 obviously and 02:31:17.159 --> 02:31:20.040 intention um from the budget the budget 02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:23.319 doesn't explicitly say that the council 02:31:23.399 --> 02:31:24.479 are not 02:31:24.559 --> 02:31:27.079 anticipating um to prepare an 02:31:27.159 --> 02:31:29.719 application for a rate cap for the next 02:31:29.799 --> 02:31:33.680 four years says we're not this year um 02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:35.440 and it certainly doesn't allocate any 02:31:35.520 --> 02:31:37.840 funding to it for future years in terms 02:31:37.920 --> 02:31:41.360 of what we see in the back end of the 02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.479 budget in our long-term financial 02:31:43.559 --> 02:31:47.120 planning but I I I think that actually 02:31:47.200 --> 02:31:49.440 this has a lot of Merit and it brings a 02:31:49.520 --> 02:31:51.840 lot of 02:31:52.239 --> 02:31:55.399 um uh it it brings a level of a peace of 02:31:55.479 --> 02:31:57.559 mind for our community that you know 02:31:57.639 --> 02:32:00.200 this is in our this is on our agenda and 02:32:00.280 --> 02:32:02.799 and we're firm in our decision to not 02:32:02.879 --> 02:32:05.879 apply for a rate cap variation um in 02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:09.120 addition I would also probably add that 02:32:09.200 --> 02:32:11.399 you know in order to apply for a rate 02:32:11.479 --> 02:32:13.920 cap variation there's a lot of framework 02:32:14.000 --> 02:32:15.920 and hurdles that need to be met before a 02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:18.520 council can actually even do that and 02:32:18.600 --> 02:32:20.319 one of those is actually 02:32:20.399 --> 02:32:22.200 assessing all your discretionary 02:32:22.280 --> 02:32:25.000 services and cutting them effectively 02:32:25.079 --> 02:32:26.840 and making sure that you're operating as 02:32:26.920 --> 02:32:30.440 lean as you possibly can and delivering 02:32:30.520 --> 02:32:34.399 the core um Services of council so 02:32:34.479 --> 02:32:37.479 before I would even consider applying 02:32:37.559 --> 02:32:39.959 for a rate cap variation I would be 02:32:40.040 --> 02:32:41.760 wanting to look at a whole range of 02:32:41.840 --> 02:32:44.440 other services before we even got to 02:32:44.520 --> 02:32:46.719 that point as a council so from my 02:32:46.799 --> 02:32:49.200 perspective this affirms my position and 02:32:49.280 --> 02:32:51.680 I'm happy to support 02:32:51.760 --> 02:32:54.760 it thank you counselor Cooper would any 02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:56.719 other counselor like to 02:32:56.799 --> 02:32:58.719 speak councilor 02:32:58.799 --> 02:33:02.440 Baker just very briefly um I think this 02:33:02.520 --> 02:33:05.040 noce motion provides Clarity um that 02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:07.360 document is quite a large document which 02:33:07.440 --> 02:33:09.280 we've all been reading for a number of 02:33:09.360 --> 02:33:11.360 months now for residents to come and 02:33:11.440 --> 02:33:12.840 read that that's a lot of content in 02:33:12.920 --> 02:33:15.239 such a short period of time so and it's 02:33:15.319 --> 02:33:16.680 a lot to get through it's a lot to 02:33:16.760 --> 02:33:18.799 digest so I just think that this 02:33:18.879 --> 02:33:22.840 nomation provides Clarity um about what 02:33:22.920 --> 02:33:25.239 the you know that that is an option to 02:33:25.319 --> 02:33:26.760 cancels I'm not saying it's our option 02:33:26.840 --> 02:33:28.760 but it is an option to councel as a last 02:33:28.840 --> 02:33:31.760 result um and I just think that you know 02:33:31.840 --> 02:33:33.319 for consideration that if you're going 02:33:33.399 --> 02:33:35.159 to go down that Avenue we need to look 02:33:35.239 --> 02:33:38.079 in your own budget so I'm totally 02:33:38.159 --> 02:33:41.280 supportive of this n motion thank 02:33:41.360 --> 02:33:44.120 you thank you councilor 02:33:44.200 --> 02:33:47.520 Baker historically I haven't supported 02:33:47.600 --> 02:33:50.479 nms that do not achieve anything above 02:33:50.559 --> 02:33:52.760 what is already being done and I just 02:33:52.840 --> 02:33:54.520 want to State for the record that I have 02:33:54.600 --> 02:33:56.600 supported councelor pier in the past 02:33:56.680 --> 02:33:59.280 with his motion to commit KNX Council to 02:33:59.360 --> 02:34:01.440 not pursuing a rate cap variation I 02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:03.200 believe I was the only other counselor 02:34:03.280 --> 02:34:05.920 that did um and my position hasn't 02:34:06.000 --> 02:34:08.479 changed on that as I believe that we 02:34:08.559 --> 02:34:10.399 have a lot more work to do to find 02:34:10.479 --> 02:34:12.559 savings before we can even consider 02:34:12.639 --> 02:34:15.079 going down that path however we are 02:34:15.159 --> 02:34:17.920 being asked to note two things everybody 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:21.520 or most councilors of already indicated 02:34:21.600 --> 02:34:24.000 that we are basically putting our stamp 02:34:24.079 --> 02:34:26.760 on something that's true um and it's not 02:34:26.840 --> 02:34:29.159 a practice that I want to encourage if 02:34:29.239 --> 02:34:31.799 each counselor brings notices of motion 02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:33.719 on issues that they feel passionately 02:34:33.799 --> 02:34:36.479 about to ensure counselors note them it 02:34:36.559 --> 02:34:39.239 would be a big waste of everyone's time 02:34:39.319 --> 02:34:41.000 I can't see what this motion is 02:34:41.079 --> 02:34:43.040 achieving beyond that and so I won't be 02:34:43.120 --> 02:34:45.719 supporting it tonight councilor Pier 02:34:45.799 --> 02:34:48.159 would you like your wrer rep thank you 02:34:48.239 --> 02:34:50.000 Madame mayor 02:34:50.079 --> 02:34:52.680 we have reports coming to every council 02:34:52.760 --> 02:34:56.319 meeting for noting not for decision for 02:34:56.399 --> 02:34:59.239 noting so if this is not legitimate then 02:34:59.319 --> 02:35:01.000 why is it legitimate to have reports 02:35:01.079 --> 02:35:03.280 come to council meeting after meeting 02:35:03.360 --> 02:35:06.120 for no noting you can't have it both 02:35:06.200 --> 02:35:09.000 ways I can sum it up in four 02:35:09.079 --> 02:35:10.600 words 02:35:10.680 --> 02:35:12.600 clarification 02:35:12.680 --> 02:35:15.719 contextualization commitment and Trust 02:35:15.799 --> 02:35:18.840 what we are doing is dis distilling the 02:35:18.920 --> 02:35:20.239 essence of the 02:35:20.319 --> 02:35:24.479 budget a substantial document and saying 02:35:24.559 --> 02:35:27.360 contextually this council is not seeking 02:35:27.440 --> 02:35:30.959 a rate cap moving forward it is not even 02:35:31.040 --> 02:35:33.319 putting any resources or any devious 02:35:33.399 --> 02:35:35.440 planning behind the scene engineering 02:35:35.520 --> 02:35:38.360 behind the scenes for rate cap variation 02:35:38.440 --> 02:35:40.360 therefore if any 02:35:40.440 --> 02:35:44.280 candidate whether returning or new wants 02:35:44.360 --> 02:35:46.399 to engage in a rate cap variation it 02:35:46.479 --> 02:35:48.040 should be contingent upon them to be 02:35:48.120 --> 02:35:50.760 upfront and honest 02:35:50.840 --> 02:35:53.239 um what their belief is that's what this 02:35:53.319 --> 02:35:57.399 is about it's very very clearly 02:35:57.479 --> 02:36:00.799 articulating the long the medium-term F 02:36:00.879 --> 02:36:04.760 key financial parameters of our 02:36:04.840 --> 02:36:07.520 long-term Financial 02:36:07.600 --> 02:36:10.399 forecast thank you councelor pierce I'll 02:36:10.479 --> 02:36:13.319 now put the motion all those in 02:36:13.399 --> 02:36:16.959 favor Council one two three four five in 02:36:17.040 --> 02:36:21.799 the chamber and one online all those 02:36:21.879 --> 02:36:23.840 opposed two in the chamber and one 02:36:23.920 --> 02:36:27.319 online that motion is 02:36:31.760 --> 02:36:35.920 carried do you want a division it's 02:36:36.000 --> 02:36:39.479 fine uh item 10.2 notice of 02:36:39.559 --> 02:36:42.920 motion1 waste collection this notice of 02:36:43.000 --> 02:36:45.120 motion was put forward by councilor Lisa 02:36:45.200 --> 02:36:48.280 K uh do I have a motion sorry A M for 02:36:48.360 --> 02:36:50.879 the motion councelor coer and that will 02:36:50.959 --> 02:36:53.639 go on the screen there we go perfect 02:36:53.719 --> 02:36:56.680 thank you is there a seconder for this 02:36:56.760 --> 02:36:59.760 motion councilor Pier councelor Cooper 02:36:59.840 --> 02:37:02.959 would you like to speak yes thank you I 02:37:03.040 --> 02:37:06.639 do um so this is the motion which I 02:37:06.719 --> 02:37:08.719 foreshadowed in our previous council 02:37:08.799 --> 02:37:11.799 meeting in May uh councelor Seymour and 02:37:11.879 --> 02:37:14.120 councelor Pierce both had notices of 02:37:14.200 --> 02:37:16.280 motions which had aspects that I would 02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:18.680 have liked to have seen amended in the 02:37:18.760 --> 02:37:21.559 meeting at the time time um as a result 02:37:21.639 --> 02:37:23.440 of governance advice in our previous 02:37:23.520 --> 02:37:26.120 meeting only um so much of their notice 02:37:26.200 --> 02:37:28.079 of motions could be changed during the 02:37:28.159 --> 02:37:30.319 meeting so I made the decision to bring 02:37:30.399 --> 02:37:32.920 an amalgamation of councelor Pierce 02:37:33.000 --> 02:37:35.520 Seymour's and My Views to the table in 02:37:35.600 --> 02:37:37.319 this n 02:37:37.399 --> 02:37:40.360 tonight um firstly I think it's really 02:37:40.440 --> 02:37:43.200 important to note that this notice of 02:37:43.280 --> 02:37:45.280 motion doesn't change anything that is 02:37:45.360 --> 02:37:46.559 currently in 02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:49.399 place item one provides an update 02:37:49.479 --> 02:37:51.000 regarding the implementation of 02:37:51.079 --> 02:37:53.040 procedures enabling the community to 02:37:53.120 --> 02:37:56.399 select a bin size option um and what 02:37:56.479 --> 02:37:58.360 that basically means is in the future we 02:37:58.440 --> 02:37:59.959 would like to know how this is working 02:38:00.040 --> 02:38:00.959 for our 02:38:01.040 --> 02:38:03.840 community two explores the feasibility 02:38:03.920 --> 02:38:05.799 of introducing weekly residential 02:38:05.879 --> 02:38:08.440 curbside recycling Service uh 02:38:08.520 --> 02:38:10.639 immediately before and after Christmas 02:38:10.719 --> 02:38:13.760 and New Year's Eve day on New Year's Day 02:38:13.840 --> 02:38:16.159 to accommodate the per um Peak seasonal 02:38:16.239 --> 02:38:19.719 needs for re for residential recycling 02:38:19.799 --> 02:38:22.079 and to be honest generally most people 02:38:22.159 --> 02:38:24.799 seem to be supportive of this within the 02:38:24.879 --> 02:38:26.959 community item three explores the 02:38:27.040 --> 02:38:28.959 feasibility of introducing procedures 02:38:29.040 --> 02:38:31.440 and systems for Renters of Residential 02:38:31.520 --> 02:38:33.719 Properties to be able to determine and 02:38:33.799 --> 02:38:36.399 pay for their preferred curbside bin 02:38:36.479 --> 02:38:39.719 Services if agreement canot be reached 02:38:39.799 --> 02:38:42.120 with a landlord and the service funded 02:38:42.200 --> 02:38:44.840 via the landlord's rates is insufficient 02:38:44.920 --> 02:38:47.600 and to me this surely seems quite 02:38:47.680 --> 02:38:50.399 Fair item four provides an update to the 02:38:50.479 --> 02:38:52.680 community regarding nox council's 02:38:52.760 --> 02:38:55.639 progress towards a soft plastic solution 02:38:55.719 --> 02:38:57.520 including benchmarking Solutions 02:38:57.600 --> 02:38:59.399 currently offered by neighboring local 02:38:59.479 --> 02:39:01.559 governments and where the nox is in a 02:39:01.639 --> 02:39:04.879 position to replace these offerings and 02:39:04.959 --> 02:39:07.760 um honestly once again I think literally 02:39:07.840 --> 02:39:09.840 everyone is asking for Council to lead 02:39:09.920 --> 02:39:12.639 the way with soft soft Plastics item 02:39:12.719 --> 02:39:15.000 five facilitates a facilitates 02:39:15.079 --> 02:39:17.159 consideration of tendering a new 02:39:17.239 --> 02:39:19.879 contract for General waste collection 02:39:19.959 --> 02:39:21.680 providing an additional fortn nightly 02:39:21.760 --> 02:39:24.079 waste collection service to that 02:39:24.159 --> 02:39:25.319 provides 02:39:25.399 --> 02:39:28.399 under additional Waste Service to that 02:39:28.479 --> 02:39:31.000 provided under contract 02:39:31.079 --> 02:39:34.280 3149 and provided an alternate fortn 02:39:34.360 --> 02:39:37.040 nightly basis to the existing service so 02:39:37.120 --> 02:39:39.639 what this means is that Council the 02:39:39.719 --> 02:39:41.239 future Council sorry will have a 02:39:41.319 --> 02:39:43.159 discussion and consider whether waste 02:39:43.239 --> 02:39:46.799 collection remains fortnightly or weekly 02:39:46.879 --> 02:39:50.280 or becomes weekly item six Prov a um 02:39:50.360 --> 02:39:53.120 progress report on the curbside reforms 02:39:53.200 --> 02:39:54.680 service outcomes delivered to the 02:39:54.760 --> 02:39:56.879 community and the effectiveness of the 02:39:56.959 --> 02:39:58.600 special consideration request and 02:39:58.680 --> 02:40:01.479 additional service supports and notes 02:40:01.559 --> 02:40:03.440 this resolution amends the previous 02:40:03.520 --> 02:40:05.920 decision of council at the April 24 02:40:06.000 --> 02:40:09.719 council meeting item 10.1 resolution D 02:40:09.799 --> 02:40:11.959 which requested a progress report by 02:40:12.040 --> 02:40:13.239 April 02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:15.840 2025 and this was particularly important 02:40:15.920 --> 02:40:19.440 to clean up because as of last as of the 02:40:19.520 --> 02:40:22.520 last meeting if we had have endorsed 02:40:22.600 --> 02:40:25.479 Council seymore's notice of motion um 02:40:25.559 --> 02:40:27.479 which asked for a report to come in 02:40:27.559 --> 02:40:29.200 August and then councilor Pierce's 02:40:29.280 --> 02:40:32.280 notice of motion which ask for a report 02:40:32.360 --> 02:40:34.159 to come to the new Council after the 02:40:34.239 --> 02:40:37.760 election in October and we already had a 02:40:37.840 --> 02:40:40.360 report coming to the new Council in 02:40:40.440 --> 02:40:43.360 April 2025 so effectively this notice of 02:40:43.440 --> 02:40:45.159 motion is incorporating all that 02:40:45.239 --> 02:40:48.200 information into one report which the 02:40:48.280 --> 02:40:50.200 future Council will now receive in 02:40:50.280 --> 02:40:51.479 February 02:40:51.559 --> 02:40:54.520 2025 and they at that point in time the 02:40:54.600 --> 02:40:58.000 Council of the day will have this 02:40:58.079 --> 02:41:01.280 discussion um from my perspective the 02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:03.879 issue has been highly contentious which 02:41:03.959 --> 02:41:06.840 is usually indicating how divisive 02:41:06.920 --> 02:41:09.520 opinion how divided opinions within the 02:41:09.600 --> 02:41:12.159 community are and I believe that this is 02:41:12.239 --> 02:41:14.120 a conversation that the new Council will 02:41:14.200 --> 02:41:17.200 be having in due course some might say 02:41:17.280 --> 02:41:19.319 that this is an attempt to politicize 02:41:19.399 --> 02:41:21.799 the issue in an election year and to 02:41:21.879 --> 02:41:25.559 those I say not likely this issue is so 02:41:25.639 --> 02:41:28.079 divisive that one could shoot themselves 02:41:28.159 --> 02:41:30.159 in the foot politically whichever way 02:41:30.239 --> 02:41:32.719 they showed their support the community 02:41:32.799 --> 02:41:34.760 is very split when it comes to whether 02:41:34.840 --> 02:41:37.559 they want to see a weekly or fortnightly 02:41:37.639 --> 02:41:39.680 collection and what sorts of services 02:41:39.760 --> 02:41:41.959 the council should be providing in terms 02:41:42.040 --> 02:41:44.879 of waste collection to me this is about 02:41:44.959 --> 02:41:46.799 addressing the community's needs and 02:41:46.879 --> 02:41:48.879 recognizing that despite the council's 02:41:48.959 --> 02:41:51.639 effort to engage the community often 02:41:51.719 --> 02:41:54.559 respond only when change directly 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:57.440 affects them sometimes a good councelor 02:41:57.520 --> 02:42:00.200 needs to reassess decisions based on 02:42:00.280 --> 02:42:03.280 feedback received after implementation 02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:04.600 rather than 02:42:04.680 --> 02:42:06.559 before quite often Community 02:42:06.639 --> 02:42:09.000 consultation only receives a few hundred 02:42:09.079 --> 02:42:10.959 would you like an extension at to um 02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:14.520 just a moment y thank you councelor 02:42:14.600 --> 02:42:16.920 pierce seconded by councelor Baker all 02:42:17.000 --> 02:42:19.680 those in favor counselor you have two 02:42:19.760 --> 02:42:22.920 minutes yeah won't need that just um one 02:42:23.000 --> 02:42:25.639 last thing is that quite often uh 02:42:25.719 --> 02:42:29.000 Council Community consultation will well 02:42:29.079 --> 02:42:31.079 the process will only receive a few 02:42:31.159 --> 02:42:34.000 hundred um opinions which may not be 02:42:34.079 --> 02:42:37.000 representative of the broader population 02:42:37.079 --> 02:42:38.559 therefore they can't always be 02:42:38.639 --> 02:42:41.319 generalized and so when you're sitting 02:42:41.399 --> 02:42:43.840 in the chair of a counselor and you're 02:42:43.920 --> 02:42:47.120 hearing all these mixed views it it just 02:42:47.200 --> 02:42:49.799 feels right and seems right to put 02:42:49.879 --> 02:42:52.479 forward checkpoints so that you can 02:42:52.559 --> 02:42:54.600 track how something that has been 02:42:54.680 --> 02:42:57.200 recently implemented is resonating 02:42:57.280 --> 02:42:59.559 within the community so I think that 02:42:59.639 --> 02:43:01.479 this notice of motion provides an 02:43:01.559 --> 02:43:03.600 adequate And Timely checkpoint for the 02:43:03.680 --> 02:43:05.959 new Council to consider the matter 02:43:06.040 --> 02:43:07.920 before the implementation of the next 02:43:08.000 --> 02:43:11.360 budgetary cycle and I genuinely hope um 02:43:11.440 --> 02:43:14.200 all councilors are able to support it um 02:43:14.280 --> 02:43:16.520 like I said at the beginning there there 02:43:16.600 --> 02:43:18.680 is no change with this notice of motion 02:43:18.760 --> 02:43:21.239 it's simply asking for a report to come 02:43:21.319 --> 02:43:23.040 to the Future Council for 02:43:23.120 --> 02:43:25.000 consideration thank 02:43:25.079 --> 02:43:29.079 you thank you councelor coper Council 02:43:29.159 --> 02:43:32.559 PE thank you Madame mayor 02:43:32.639 --> 02:43:36.000 and let's think about this 02:43:36.079 --> 02:43:39.440 9,486 th000 that's the expenditure on 02:43:39.520 --> 02:43:41.559 the waste management contract it's the 02:43:41.639 --> 02:43:45.000 largest service contract we have and I 02:43:45.079 --> 02:43:46.959 would argue with anyone the most 02:43:47.040 --> 02:43:50.920 important one to un ively to Residents 02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:55.040 everywhere so we owe it to them to Comm 02:43:55.120 --> 02:43:55.879 the 02:43:55.959 --> 02:43:59.680 resources and research and Analysis to 02:43:59.760 --> 02:44:03.000 make sure we've got it right I don't 02:44:03.079 --> 02:44:07.120 believe we have now when we're saying 02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:09.159 this could be all too difficult well we 02:44:09.239 --> 02:44:11.440 have the AI Revolution we have $1 02:44:11.520 --> 02:44:14.520 million in ICT investment in the next 02:44:14.600 --> 02:44:17.920 count in the next year of council alone 02:44:18.000 --> 02:44:20.479 with that of power I'm not going to 02:44:20.559 --> 02:44:25.760 accept a survey of 55 people out of 02:44:25.840 --> 02:44:29.200 135,000 I've had anecdotal feedback from 02:44:29.280 --> 02:44:33.079 a from the C the current only tail award 02:44:33.159 --> 02:44:35.280 candidate and the feedback I've been 02:44:35.360 --> 02:44:38.440 getting after she's been going door to 02:44:38.520 --> 02:44:42.479 door for 6 weeks is that my intuition is 02:44:42.559 --> 02:44:46.680 absolutely correct people are not happy 02:44:46.760 --> 02:44:49.239 with the current configuration 02:44:49.319 --> 02:44:50.840 and this 02:44:50.920 --> 02:44:53.719 deserves and in respect of the community 02:44:53.799 --> 02:44:56.479 this deserves in total to be pushed 02:44:56.559 --> 02:44:59.280 forward for further 02:44:59.360 --> 02:45:01.680 consideration I will leave it 02:45:01.760 --> 02:45:04.799 there thank you councilor P would any 02:45:04.879 --> 02:45:08.200 other Council like to speak to this item 02:45:08.280 --> 02:45:10.799 councilor 02:45:14.120 --> 02:45:17.600 seore thank you uh through you Madame 02:45:17.680 --> 02:45:19.479 mayor firstly I'd like to command 02:45:19.559 --> 02:45:22.280 commend councilor Cooper for bringing 02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:23.959 this motion back I know that there was 02:45:24.040 --> 02:45:26.440 some commentary um made at the last 02:45:26.520 --> 02:45:28.639 council meeting that we've been banging 02:45:28.719 --> 02:45:30.360 on about this thing and going over and 02:45:30.440 --> 02:45:33.280 over it and and not getting anywhere so 02:45:33.360 --> 02:45:35.559 um thank you for counselor Cooper's 02:45:35.639 --> 02:45:38.639 courage in in bringing this back and for 02:45:38.719 --> 02:45:42.360 so eloquently articulating the 02:45:42.440 --> 02:45:45.959 argument this is about the community is 02:45:46.040 --> 02:45:48.280 divided um there are different 02:45:48.360 --> 02:45:52.159 experience that people are having and 02:45:52.239 --> 02:45:54.760 but there's a a universal principle in 02:45:54.840 --> 02:45:57.600 that everybody I've spoken to wants to 02:45:57.680 --> 02:46:00.360 reduce landfill so the the landfill 02:46:00.440 --> 02:46:03.959 component is not the the issue for 02:46:04.040 --> 02:46:07.559 debate it's how we manage household 02:46:07.639 --> 02:46:10.680 experience so that there isn't an impost 02:46:10.760 --> 02:46:14.520 on what's going on in people's homes so 02:46:14.600 --> 02:46:18.879 it's not and never should be a political 02:46:18.959 --> 02:46:20.639 argument for people who might be more 02:46:20.719 --> 02:46:23.360 environmentally focused versus people 02:46:23.440 --> 02:46:26.440 who are more individualistic no that is 02:46:26.520 --> 02:46:28.600 not the issue this is about experience 02:46:28.680 --> 02:46:31.840 in people's homes when they're saying we 02:46:31.920 --> 02:46:34.559 cannot cope with the implementation that 02:46:34.639 --> 02:46:37.719 you've put before us um there needs to 02:46:37.799 --> 02:46:41.440 be flex and the flex might be adjusting 02:46:41.520 --> 02:46:43.719 bin size for some they're say no we want 02:46:43.799 --> 02:46:46.280 weekly collection the beauty of this 02:46:46.360 --> 02:46:49.799 report is it brings back data to make an 02:46:49.879 --> 02:46:51.479 informed 02:46:51.559 --> 02:46:54.479 decision because I can't honestly go and 02:46:54.559 --> 02:46:57.559 say the solution is let's just quickly 02:46:57.639 --> 02:47:00.520 roll out different bin sizes there needs 02:47:00.600 --> 02:47:02.280 to be some analysis of what that looks 02:47:02.360 --> 02:47:05.559 like what is the cost similarly we can't 02:47:05.639 --> 02:47:07.879 just say let's revert back to weekly 02:47:07.959 --> 02:47:09.959 collection because there needs to be 02:47:10.040 --> 02:47:12.959 some analysis by going through another 02:47:13.040 --> 02:47:15.079 getting another 02:47:15.159 --> 02:47:19.120 um tender to see what the cost of that 02:47:19.200 --> 02:47:21.239 looks like because people will want 02:47:21.319 --> 02:47:23.479 choice they want to make informed 02:47:23.559 --> 02:47:25.760 decisions the other thing I really like 02:47:25.840 --> 02:47:27.639 about this notice of motion which was a 02:47:27.719 --> 02:47:30.639 concern that I had um last month was 02:47:30.719 --> 02:47:32.760 around the timing so people 02:47:32.840 --> 02:47:34.840 misinterpreted my push for timing 02:47:34.920 --> 02:47:36.799 November thinking that that was 02:47:36.879 --> 02:47:39.840 political no it was about making sure 02:47:39.920 --> 02:47:42.319 that the councilors of the day had the 02:47:42.399 --> 02:47:44.440 information at hand as we go through the 02:47:44.520 --> 02:47:47.520 budget cycle it can be done in February 02:47:47.600 --> 02:47:49.000 it just doesn't give a lot of wiggle 02:47:49.079 --> 02:47:51.879 room for multiple issues briefings but 02:47:51.959 --> 02:47:54.680 it is possible so I'm I'm fully 02:47:54.760 --> 02:47:57.680 supportive of that um the final thing 02:47:57.760 --> 02:47:59.879 and I might need an extension is I do 02:47:59.959 --> 02:48:02.159 want to touch on point three 02:48:02.239 --> 02:48:04.040 specifically do I need an extension am I 02:48:04.120 --> 02:48:07.040 nearly there okay can I please ask for 02:48:07.120 --> 02:48:10.000 an extension before we get 02:48:10.079 --> 02:48:13.760 there thank you 02:48:13.840 --> 02:48:16.639 um move by councelor Cooper seconded by 02:48:16.719 --> 02:48:19.319 counselor Pier all those in favor you 02:48:19.399 --> 02:48:21.280 have two further minutes thank you I 02:48:21.360 --> 02:48:23.319 just quickly want to dig a little bit 02:48:23.399 --> 02:48:26.159 deeper on um the motivation behind the 02:48:26.239 --> 02:48:28.120 renters one because there's been a bit 02:48:28.200 --> 02:48:32.719 of um confusion So currently renters in 02:48:32.799 --> 02:48:35.840 a private rental so whether it's through 02:48:35.920 --> 02:48:38.840 an agent or just a private 02:48:38.920 --> 02:48:42.200 renter cannot approach Council and ask 02:48:42.280 --> 02:48:45.719 for a different size bin they get 02:48:45.799 --> 02:48:48.920 whatever bin is on offered by their 02:48:49.000 --> 02:48:50.920 landlord so if the landlord wants the 02:48:51.000 --> 02:48:53.639 cheapest option they go the 80 L General 02:48:53.719 --> 02:48:57.600 waste of 240 recycling the 240 Fogo 02:48:57.680 --> 02:49:00.959 regardless of the makeup of the people 02:49:01.040 --> 02:49:02.639 in that rental property so if you've got 02:49:02.719 --> 02:49:05.319 a townhouse with four bedrooms four on 02:49:05.399 --> 02:49:08.680 suet and minimum four adults they might 02:49:08.760 --> 02:49:11.799 only have an 80 L General waste bin on 02:49:11.879 --> 02:49:16.079 offer if their landlord says no I'm not 02:49:16.159 --> 02:49:19.239 prepared to give you the option of a 02:49:19.319 --> 02:49:23.000 bigger bin they cannot get it so what 02:49:23.079 --> 02:49:26.840 this basically is saying is any Resident 02:49:26.920 --> 02:49:29.239 in nox should be able to 02:49:29.319 --> 02:49:32.719 determine freely renters shouldn't be um 02:49:32.799 --> 02:49:36.200 disadvantaged or discriminated against 02:49:36.280 --> 02:49:38.879 they should be able to access a 120 L 02:49:38.959 --> 02:49:42.799 bin or a 240 L bin when that rolls out 02:49:42.879 --> 02:49:45.840 properly um if they need it based on 02:49:45.920 --> 02:49:47.840 their household dwelling but it's going 02:49:47.920 --> 02:49:49.639 to take work it's not something that can 02:49:49.719 --> 02:49:52.120 automatically happen there needs to be 02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:55.159 some analysis of how can we actually 02:49:55.239 --> 02:49:59.040 Implement that outside of the rating 02:49:59.120 --> 02:50:02.559 system and it might be that it mirrors a 02:50:02.639 --> 02:50:04.719 pet registration for example so renters 02:50:04.799 --> 02:50:06.799 have to register for a different B don't 02:50:06.879 --> 02:50:09.319 know what the solution will be but what 02:50:09.399 --> 02:50:13.159 this point makes is absolutely renters 02:50:13.239 --> 02:50:16.360 should not be discriminated against they 02:50:16.440 --> 02:50:19.040 should have choice they shouldn't be at 02:50:19.120 --> 02:50:22.959 the mercy of a landlord who doesn't 02:50:23.040 --> 02:50:25.159 necessarily understand and appreciate 02:50:25.239 --> 02:50:28.079 and empathize with their individual need 02:50:28.159 --> 02:50:30.639 and that's why that particular Point um 02:50:30.719 --> 02:50:32.719 is in there and why it's important thank 02:50:32.799 --> 02:50:35.959 you thank you counselor SEO would any 02:50:36.040 --> 02:50:39.959 other councelor like to speak to this 02:50:41.040 --> 02:50:43.079 item councelor 02:50:43.159 --> 02:50:45.239 Baker very briefly I'm not going to 02:50:45.319 --> 02:50:47.680 reiterate what's already been mentioned 02:50:47.760 --> 02:50:49.319 um but I'm very surp supportive this has 02:50:49.399 --> 02:50:51.799 been a contentious issue um we've only 02:50:51.879 --> 02:50:53.959 got to see the mixed feedback to see how 02:50:54.040 --> 02:50:57.200 broad and the breadth of views um on 02:50:57.280 --> 02:51:00.399 this topic is um and command councelor 02:51:00.479 --> 02:51:02.680 Cooper to receive this report as outline 02:51:02.760 --> 02:51:04.120 her nors I'll be supporting this notice 02:51:04.200 --> 02:51:06.840 and motion tonight thank you thank you 02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:09.120 councelor 02:51:09.200 --> 02:51:13.639 vaker with against councelor 02:51:15.799 --> 02:51:19.000 gr uh thank you B um 02:51:19.079 --> 02:51:22.479 I've spoken to this before um of course 02:51:22.559 --> 02:51:24.559 the community I represent the residents 02:51:24.639 --> 02:51:25.840 of dinel 02:51:25.920 --> 02:51:29.440 Ward have adjusted well to the change 02:51:29.520 --> 02:51:32.079 and there are definitely renters in Dale 02:51:32.159 --> 02:51:34.239 Ward that encompasses Bay water and 02:51:34.319 --> 02:51:36.120 there are 02:51:36.200 --> 02:51:39.600 um units and and uh 02:51:39.680 --> 02:51:42.479 Apartments uh in fact we know that as a 02:51:42.559 --> 02:51:44.719 municipality the change has resulted in 02:51:44.799 --> 02:51:48.159 a 73% diversion rate from landfill which 02:51:48.239 --> 02:51:50.600 is excellent outcome and an excellent 02:51:50.680 --> 02:51:53.000 outcome for the environment I can also 02:51:53.079 --> 02:51:55.200 tell you I can count on one hand the 02:51:55.280 --> 02:51:56.920 number of complaints I have received 02:51:57.000 --> 02:51:59.200 since the changes were introduced in 02:51:59.280 --> 02:52:00.559 July last 02:52:00.639 --> 02:52:04.479 year last year 2023 even our after our 02:52:04.559 --> 02:52:07.079 last council meeting this year I 02:52:07.159 --> 02:52:10.000 received one complaint but one resident 02:52:10.079 --> 02:52:12.639 has spoken to me to encourage me to 02:52:12.719 --> 02:52:15.559 retain the changes and not go backwards 02:52:15.639 --> 02:52:18.520 and of course um I've in addition to 02:52:18.600 --> 02:52:21.200 having my Facebook page I've also been 02:52:21.280 --> 02:52:23.319 engaged in um 02:52:23.399 --> 02:52:26.520 iners um Community engagement sessions 02:52:26.600 --> 02:52:29.120 on a number of issues where I was 02:52:29.200 --> 02:52:31.399 approached on items to do with 02:52:31.479 --> 02:52:34.639 absolutely anything so um for for 02:52:34.719 --> 02:52:36.200 reasons such as these I won't be 02:52:36.280 --> 02:52:38.079 supporting 02:52:38.159 --> 02:52:41.959 it thank you councelor Gro would any 02:52:42.040 --> 02:52:44.799 other councel like to speak councelor 02:52:44.879 --> 02:52:46.840 Tim 02:52:46.920 --> 02:52:49.479 Le uh thank you why look I'm only going 02:52:49.559 --> 02:52:54.159 to be brief um I've I've um feel like 02:52:54.239 --> 02:52:57.399 I've spoken to this notice of motion for 02:52:57.479 --> 02:52:59.719 now three months in a row so I don't 02:52:59.799 --> 02:53:01.520 want to reiterate debate that I've 02:53:01.600 --> 02:53:05.520 already had multiple times because 02:53:05.600 --> 02:53:08.920 um I I feel like we're just um to to one 02:53:09.000 --> 02:53:11.000 of the counselor's points banging on 02:53:11.079 --> 02:53:12.520 about it and bring it back again and 02:53:12.600 --> 02:53:16.000 again and again um as councilor Cooper 02:53:16.079 --> 02:53:19.079 says this notice of motion doesn't 02:53:19.159 --> 02:53:21.959 change anything that is already in place 02:53:22.040 --> 02:53:25.879 um work is already happening on item on0 02:53:25.959 --> 02:53:27.639 one 02:53:27.719 --> 02:53:29.879 23 02:53:29.959 --> 02:53:34.600 and4 uh six um already talks about the 02:53:34.680 --> 02:53:36.440 progress report the only change that is 02:53:36.520 --> 02:53:39.079 in this is Bring It Forward by 2 months 02:53:39.159 --> 02:53:40.959 so that work is already happening to 02:53:41.040 --> 02:53:43.319 report back on all of the issues that 02:53:43.399 --> 02:53:45.040 have been raised in this notice of 02:53:45.120 --> 02:53:48.399 motion um the only thing that is 02:53:48.479 --> 02:53:50.920 different um to what is not already in 02:53:51.000 --> 02:53:54.920 place is 0 five which is the 02:53:55.000 --> 02:53:57.520 consideration of tendering an additional 02:53:57.600 --> 02:54:00.520 contract to effectively bring about a 02:54:00.600 --> 02:54:04.319 weekly cycle um and I fundamentally as 02:54:04.399 --> 02:54:06.479 I've had in my previous debates um have 02:54:06.559 --> 02:54:10.760 a problem with um introducing that 02:54:10.840 --> 02:54:14.639 additional cost impost on a municipality 02:54:14.719 --> 02:54:18.360 that um all of the substantiated 02:54:18.440 --> 02:54:20.000 information that we have received from 02:54:20.079 --> 02:54:21.680 credible sources and I'm not interested 02:54:21.760 --> 02:54:24.760 in antidot feedback I'm interested in 02:54:24.840 --> 02:54:28.280 the um the surveys that we're getting 02:54:28.360 --> 02:54:31.280 from independent people telling um the 02:54:31.360 --> 02:54:36.040 story of our municipality um so um I 02:54:36.120 --> 02:54:38.680 agree that some might say that this is a 02:54:38.760 --> 02:54:41.440 politically motivated notice of motion I 02:54:41.520 --> 02:54:43.719 absolutely believe that um the last 02:54:43.799 --> 02:54:45.600 three notices of motion on this are 02:54:45.680 --> 02:54:47.879 politically motivated and that this is 02:54:47.959 --> 02:54:50.159 all engineering for an electioneering 02:54:50.239 --> 02:54:51.799 and I'm 02:54:51.879 --> 02:54:56.479 um I'm weary of it um and for all of 02:54:56.559 --> 02:54:58.879 those reasons given that the work of the 02:54:58.959 --> 02:55:00.920 waste management team is already 02:55:01.000 --> 02:55:03.280 underway to support most of the things 02:55:03.360 --> 02:55:05.639 that are or in this no sub motion to 02:55:05.719 --> 02:55:08.200 come back early next year um I will not 02:55:08.280 --> 02:55:11.799 be supporting this particular one 02:55:11.879 --> 02:55:15.040 tonight thank you Council timle would 02:55:15.120 --> 02:55:17.239 any other Council like to 02:55:17.319 --> 02:55:22.639 speak counc loins through you mayor D 02:55:22.719 --> 02:55:26.479 um councilors uh I think we we need to 02:55:26.559 --> 02:55:31.120 um remember that o only just recently we 02:55:31.200 --> 02:55:33.719 have endorsed our waste resource 02:55:33.799 --> 02:55:37.959 strategy we set out our long-term um 02:55:38.040 --> 02:55:40.559 vision and plan within that 02:55:40.639 --> 02:55:43.639 strategy um and in there indicates that 02:55:43.719 --> 02:55:46.959 we will get some reviews and some um 02:55:47.040 --> 02:55:48.799 information back about how that strategy 02:55:48.879 --> 02:55:50.319 is 02:55:50.399 --> 02:55:54.079 progressing what I see in this um 02:55:54.159 --> 02:55:55.879 document is things that we've already 02:55:55.959 --> 02:55:58.440 discussed like councilor uh Tim leer 02:55:58.520 --> 02:56:00.159 said it's coming back which we have 02:56:00.239 --> 02:56:02.360 discussed and some of these things I 02:56:02.440 --> 02:56:05.479 feel like um they are not in line with 02:56:05.559 --> 02:56:09.879 our overall vision of reducing waste um 02:56:09.959 --> 02:56:12.399 but I see these as part of the delivery 02:56:12.479 --> 02:56:16.399 of the waste strategy they are um things 02:56:16.479 --> 02:56:18.799 that we have set with our Strate cuz 02:56:18.879 --> 02:56:20.879 remember council is where here to set 02:56:20.959 --> 02:56:24.079 strategy we set the strategy then the 02:56:24.159 --> 02:56:27.879 organization um is entrusted to deliver 02:56:27.959 --> 02:56:32.879 that strategy and I see some of these um 02:56:32.959 --> 02:56:35.639 points are to be delivered within the 02:56:35.719 --> 02:56:37.520 strategy that we have already 02:56:37.600 --> 02:56:40.280 set absolutely it's not a set and forget 02:56:40.360 --> 02:56:42.440 and we have opportunity at each time we 02:56:42.520 --> 02:56:45.840 review to do that and whether it's um 02:56:45.920 --> 02:56:47.440 the next budget or the next budget next 02:56:47.520 --> 02:56:49.559 budget next budget budget and for the 02:56:49.639 --> 02:56:52.319 whole strategy we have those strategic 02:56:52.399 --> 02:56:56.799 opportunities to set and look and review 02:56:56.879 --> 02:57:00.559 um I feel like we've set the way 02:57:00.639 --> 02:57:02.799 strategy I'm happy with the strategy 02:57:02.879 --> 02:57:05.319 that we move forward um I was happy with 02:57:05.399 --> 02:57:08.040 the April report uh knowing how 02:57:08.120 --> 02:57:08.920 difficult it 02:57:09.000 --> 02:57:13.399 is sorry sorry I overheard sorry it's a 02:57:13.479 --> 02:57:16.399 resource management is that sorry I I 02:57:16.479 --> 02:57:18.440 was distracted by your spech speaking 02:57:18.520 --> 02:57:21.639 counselor Seymour sorry um yes we 02:57:21.719 --> 02:57:23.680 appreciate um understanding your 02:57:23.760 --> 02:57:25.159 behavior in the chamber and I think 02:57:25.239 --> 02:57:26.440 that's actually something you've said to 02:57:26.520 --> 02:57:28.600 me before I'd appreciate the courtesy 02:57:28.680 --> 02:57:31.239 again thank you is that a point of autum 02:57:31.319 --> 02:57:33.079 or are you happy to continue I'm happy 02:57:33.159 --> 02:57:35.639 to continue uh I just acknowledge that 02:57:35.719 --> 02:57:38.159 um I feel that April is a good time for 02:57:38.239 --> 02:57:40.600 the new Council we do the new Council 02:57:40.680 --> 02:57:43.520 laws uh there is a lot to get through 02:57:43.600 --> 02:57:46.000 this is a huge strategy that we know is 02:57:46.079 --> 02:57:49.879 absolutely massive I I um I'm 02:57:49.959 --> 02:57:52.040 comfortable with the strategy is going 02:57:52.120 --> 02:57:54.120 and what we have already adopted uh I 02:57:54.200 --> 02:57:56.639 will not be supporting this 02:57:56.719 --> 02:57:59.600 motion thank you councilor loin just 02:57:59.680 --> 02:58:01.680 procedurally if we want to talk across 02:58:01.760 --> 02:58:03.719 the table to each other let's raise a 02:58:03.799 --> 02:58:05.200 point of order and go through the chair 02:58:05.280 --> 02:58:08.559 so it can be managed uh council orid did 02:58:08.639 --> 02:58:11.319 you wish to 02:58:14.200 --> 02:58:15.799 speak 02:58:15.879 --> 02:58:18.440 sure whil the intent behind the the 02:58:18.520 --> 02:58:21.319 motion is commendable I actually have 02:58:21.399 --> 02:58:24.680 several concerns um and so I'm going to 02:58:24.760 --> 02:58:27.000 oppose it in its current form I'm just 02:58:27.079 --> 02:58:28.719 going to go through quickly so I support 02:58:28.799 --> 02:58:30.959 the choice in the waste bins it does 02:58:31.040 --> 02:58:32.479 encourage households to be mindful of 02:58:32.559 --> 02:58:34.520 their waste production um and choose an 02:58:34.600 --> 02:58:36.399 appropriate size bin and that might 02:58:36.479 --> 02:58:38.040 potentially reduce overall waste 02:58:38.120 --> 02:58:41.040 generation I conditionally support item 02:58:41.120 --> 02:58:43.319 two about paper and cardboard collection 02:58:43.399 --> 02:58:45.600 in those high peak periods I think a 02:58:45.680 --> 02:58:47.360 dedicated paper and cardboard collection 02:58:47.440 --> 02:58:48.760 could mitigate 02:58:48.840 --> 02:58:53.159 um the risk of um contamination might 02:58:53.239 --> 02:58:55.840 ensure recyclables remain uncontaminated 02:58:55.920 --> 02:58:57.600 and that's sometimes only if the 02:58:57.680 --> 02:58:59.319 community Embrace and follow the rules 02:58:59.399 --> 02:59:01.399 so a little bit of not sure about that 02:59:01.479 --> 02:59:03.600 one um I do favor point three and I 02:59:03.680 --> 02:59:05.200 actually thank councelor Seymour for her 02:59:05.280 --> 02:59:06.879 Clarity I think the principle aligns 02:59:06.959 --> 02:59:09.520 with that user pay system um promotes 02:59:09.600 --> 02:59:12.120 fairness and um incentivizes waste 02:59:12.200 --> 02:59:15.239 reduction but I um conditionally support 02:59:15.319 --> 02:59:18.399 the soft plastic disposal um after many 02:59:18.479 --> 02:59:20.120 attempts and those who would know I've 02:59:20.200 --> 02:59:21.399 come to acknowledge that the role of 02:59:21.479 --> 02:59:24.120 council um to pay for soft Plastics 02:59:24.200 --> 02:59:26.319 disposal um instead I actually think the 02:59:26.399 --> 02:59:27.719 supermarkets should take that 02:59:27.799 --> 02:59:29.399 responsibility those big three 02:59:29.479 --> 02:59:30.760 supermarkets have been given the 02:59:30.840 --> 02:59:33.280 responsibility of finding a solution um 02:59:33.360 --> 02:59:34.680 and they've actually made really limited 02:59:34.760 --> 02:59:37.319 process progress uh so I think council's 02:59:37.399 --> 02:59:38.760 role should be the advocate for a 02:59:38.840 --> 02:59:41.079 comprehensive state and federal solution 02:59:41.159 --> 02:59:43.040 rather than subsidizing an interim 02:59:43.120 --> 02:59:46.719 measure um maybe even including a user 02:59:46.799 --> 02:59:48.959 pay system who those who want to use it 02:59:49.040 --> 02:59:51.159 with vendors who provide that type of 02:59:51.239 --> 02:59:53.360 recycling service might be some 02:59:53.440 --> 02:59:55.600 something that is looked at um but I 02:59:55.680 --> 02:59:57.319 actually have a opposition to the 02:59:57.399 --> 02:59:58.879 tendering of the new contract for 02:59:58.959 --> 03:00:00.319 General waste and I think this 03:00:00.399 --> 03:00:02.719 undermines the goals of waste diversion 03:00:02.799 --> 03:00:04.760 and sustainability um the state 03:00:04.840 --> 03:00:07.319 government targets for reducing landfill 03:00:07.399 --> 03:00:09.719 waste will be compromised if it becomes 03:00:09.799 --> 03:00:12.399 too easy to dispose of food waste in our 03:00:12.479 --> 03:00:14.879 landfill bins so encouraging the use of 03:00:14.959 --> 03:00:17.079 those Fogo bins is really essential for 03:00:17.159 --> 03:00:19.159 keeping uh valuable resources in 03:00:19.239 --> 03:00:21.120 circulation and minimizing landfill 03:00:21.200 --> 03:00:24.520 waste allowing food in our landfill bins 03:00:24.600 --> 03:00:27.200 um would be a really regressive step and 03:00:27.280 --> 03:00:29.719 it reduces that partic participation of 03:00:29.799 --> 03:00:32.840 our Fogo program and lowering that race 03:00:32.920 --> 03:00:35.600 waste diversion um I'm also got I've got 03:00:35.680 --> 03:00:37.840 a little bit of a concern with the what 03:00:37.920 --> 03:00:40.520 would be increased truck movements um 03:00:40.600 --> 03:00:43.040 might lead to higher emissions increased 03:00:43.120 --> 03:00:45.600 Road wear and potential traffic 03:00:45.680 --> 03:00:48.319 disruptions so these factors further 03:00:48.399 --> 03:00:51.239 detract from that sustainability goal of 03:00:51.319 --> 03:00:53.840 our community um and counselor Seymour 03:00:53.920 --> 03:00:55.959 your Facebook call out to the community 03:00:56.040 --> 03:00:58.120 to contact your counselors and let them 03:00:58.200 --> 03:01:01.479 know actually had zero results from me I 03:01:01.559 --> 03:01:03.559 had not one phone call not one message 03:01:03.639 --> 03:01:06.799 not one private Facebook anything no one 03:01:06.879 --> 03:01:08.879 spoke to me at any of the events or 03:01:08.959 --> 03:01:11.280 advisory committee meetings I had one 03:01:11.360 --> 03:01:12.879 person complain about their hard rubbish 03:01:12.959 --> 03:01:15.000 collection so whilst there elements of 03:01:15.079 --> 03:01:16.239 the motion that align with that 03:01:16.319 --> 03:01:18.239 effective Waste Management principle I 03:01:18.319 --> 03:01:20.520 am concerned and cautious about the 03:01:20.600 --> 03:01:22.200 potential negative impacts on waste 03:01:22.280 --> 03:01:25.120 diversion efforts contamination risk and 03:01:25.200 --> 03:01:26.959 the inappropriate allocation of the 03:01:27.040 --> 03:01:29.760 waste charge 03:01:29.840 --> 03:01:33.520 thanks thank you councilor oret um I 03:01:33.600 --> 03:01:36.159 will also be opposing the notice of 03:01:36.239 --> 03:01:38.879 motion tonight but for a couple of other 03:01:38.959 --> 03:01:42.559 reasons not specific to what's in it uh 03:01:42.639 --> 03:01:44.680 but I guess the concern is around the 03:01:44.760 --> 03:01:46.319 lack of support that we're showing for 03:01:46.399 --> 03:01:48.319 our community engagement policy which 03:01:48.399 --> 03:01:50.760 we've all endorsed for some reason this 03:01:50.840 --> 03:01:52.680 particular issue always comes back to 03:01:52.760 --> 03:01:55.520 anecdotal evidence as opposed to uh 03:01:55.600 --> 03:01:58.799 really taking on board the um the solid 03:01:58.879 --> 03:02:01.559 data that we've sought and paid for and 03:02:01.639 --> 03:02:05.319 um and engaged through a community 03:02:05.399 --> 03:02:07.559 engagement policy that we've all that 03:02:07.639 --> 03:02:08.600 we've all 03:02:08.680 --> 03:02:10.959 supported uh so I struggle with that I 03:02:11.040 --> 03:02:14.399 do struggle with the way that um we're 03:02:14.479 --> 03:02:16.719 happy to throw out evidence because 03:02:16.799 --> 03:02:18.319 we're hearing something different we 03:02:18.399 --> 03:02:20.159 will hear something different because of 03:02:20.239 --> 03:02:22.399 the position that we're in we will 03:02:22.479 --> 03:02:25.159 naturally be the ones that um are called 03:02:25.239 --> 03:02:27.959 up or emailed if there is an issue that 03:02:28.040 --> 03:02:30.920 someone wants to discuss um we have to 03:02:31.000 --> 03:02:33.079 take on board the evidence that we've 03:02:33.159 --> 03:02:35.040 sought through our community engagement 03:02:35.120 --> 03:02:36.840 policy and give it the weight that it's 03:02:36.920 --> 03:02:40.360 due the other reason why I'm struggling 03:02:40.440 --> 03:02:42.360 to support this is a resourcing one and 03:02:42.440 --> 03:02:44.719 we've talked a lot tonight about the 03:02:44.799 --> 03:02:47.079 cost and the budget uh that we have to 03:02:47.159 --> 03:02:48.360 work within 03:02:48.440 --> 03:02:51.159 and for some reason uh when it comes to 03:02:51.239 --> 03:02:53.479 this we're quite happy to put a lot of 03:02:53.559 --> 03:02:56.319 Officer time and resourcing into things 03:02:56.399 --> 03:02:58.360 that haven't been identified through our 03:02:58.440 --> 03:03:01.040 waste strategy consultation and haven't 03:03:01.120 --> 03:03:03.840 been identified uh through the through 03:03:03.920 --> 03:03:06.079 the consultation that we've done um 03:03:06.159 --> 03:03:09.760 around this particular item um we are 03:03:09.840 --> 03:03:12.879 constantly detracting from achieving the 03:03:12.959 --> 03:03:15.200 goals that we have endorsed through our 03:03:15.280 --> 03:03:18.440 strategy so I for that reason also 03:03:18.520 --> 03:03:20.479 struggle with what's being proposed in 03:03:20.559 --> 03:03:23.680 this motion tonight um a report is 03:03:23.760 --> 03:03:26.000 already scheduled to come back in April 03:03:26.079 --> 03:03:28.239 providing the data and information to 03:03:28.319 --> 03:03:30.760 inform the new Council on the next 03:03:30.840 --> 03:03:34.639 steps uh we do obviously go into some 03:03:34.719 --> 03:03:37.079 downtime around caretaker period but 03:03:37.159 --> 03:03:39.639 also after that when new counselors and 03:03:39.719 --> 03:03:42.040 the whole Council cohort have to do 03:03:42.120 --> 03:03:44.040 counselor training mandatory counselor 03:03:44.120 --> 03:03:46.639 training from November to at least 03:03:46.719 --> 03:03:48.840 February and it would mean that this 03:03:48.920 --> 03:03:51.200 item would jump the queue of issues and 03:03:51.280 --> 03:03:53.360 items that will already be waiting to 03:03:53.440 --> 03:03:56.440 come to the council during that 03:03:56.520 --> 03:03:58.920 downtime councelor Cooper would you like 03:03:59.000 --> 03:04:01.639 your WR of 03:04:02.280 --> 03:04:05.680 reply thank you um and look thank you 03:04:05.760 --> 03:04:08.159 everyone for expressing your views it's 03:04:08.239 --> 03:04:11.159 um important to hear um obviously the 03:04:11.239 --> 03:04:14.159 views of every counselor at the table um 03:04:14.239 --> 03:04:16.959 I do want to reiterate though that I do 03:04:17.040 --> 03:04:18.920 disagree that that this is an issue 03:04:19.000 --> 03:04:21.799 that's um an like attempting to be 03:04:21.879 --> 03:04:24.399 politicized certainly not from my view 03:04:24.479 --> 03:04:25.920 and not from my standing point and I 03:04:26.000 --> 03:04:27.879 don't believe that of um my counselor 03:04:27.959 --> 03:04:31.440 colleagues either um none of these items 03:04:31.520 --> 03:04:34.000 noted on the notice of motion this 03:04:34.079 --> 03:04:36.280 evening are actually noted in the waste 03:04:36.360 --> 03:04:38.280 strategy not one of 03:04:38.360 --> 03:04:41.079 them I haven't heard any argument for 03:04:41.159 --> 03:04:43.440 why the new Council shouldn't receive 03:04:43.520 --> 03:04:46.239 this report and why they shouldn't have 03:04:46.319 --> 03:04:48.600 this information before a budgetary 03:04:48.680 --> 03:04:51.680 cycle commences next year I would think 03:04:51.760 --> 03:04:53.600 that that is the first thing that a new 03:04:53.680 --> 03:04:55.920 Council would need to receive if they 03:04:56.000 --> 03:04:57.879 are to make any decisions around this 03:04:57.959 --> 03:04:59.639 particular 03:04:59.719 --> 03:05:03.440 topic um at 03:05:03.959 --> 03:05:06.879 the and the discussion around the second 03:05:06.959 --> 03:05:08.360 contract which was mentioned by 03:05:08.440 --> 03:05:12.280 councelor all red um should actually be 03:05:12.360 --> 03:05:15.520 at the will of a future Council um and 03:05:15.600 --> 03:05:20.239 this could not be um um prepared and we 03:05:20.319 --> 03:05:22.760 we need to basically prepare a future 03:05:22.840 --> 03:05:24.840 report which will prepare the future 03:05:24.920 --> 03:05:27.239 Council to make that decision so they're 03:05:27.319 --> 03:05:30.760 not going to be in a position to even 03:05:30.840 --> 03:05:33.120 make a decision around whether they want 03:05:33.200 --> 03:05:36.840 to change the uh the uh waste collection 03:05:36.920 --> 03:05:41.159 frequency um and even see what a second 03:05:41.239 --> 03:05:43.159 contract would look like without this 03:05:43.239 --> 03:05:46.079 report coming like going through today 03:05:46.159 --> 03:05:48.239 and being available for them them early 03:05:48.319 --> 03:05:50.760 February next year so I think this 03:05:50.840 --> 03:05:53.760 council is actually not setting up the 03:05:53.840 --> 03:05:55.879 future Council in good stad to make a 03:05:55.959 --> 03:05:57.600 decision on this particular topic and 03:05:57.680 --> 03:06:00.159 I'm really disappointed that this 03:06:00.239 --> 03:06:03.000 Council of today is trying to determine 03:06:03.079 --> 03:06:04.000 the 03:06:04.079 --> 03:06:06.239 outcome would you like oh I don't 03:06:06.319 --> 03:06:08.559 believe you can sorry your time is 03:06:08.639 --> 03:06:13.360 actually up for right of reply okay 03:06:13.440 --> 03:06:16.600 thanks uh so with all counselors having 03:06:16.680 --> 03:06:18.840 spoken I will now put the motion all 03:06:18.920 --> 03:06:22.079 those in favor of the notice of motion 03:06:22.159 --> 03:06:26.040 151 as was on the screen we have one two 03:06:26.120 --> 03:06:28.680 three four in the chamber all those 03:06:28.760 --> 03:06:31.920 opposed one two three in the chamber and 03:06:32.000 --> 03:06:33.280 two online 03:06:33.360 --> 03:06:36.719 division I'll put that vote aside so 03:06:36.799 --> 03:06:40.200 notice of motion 151 all those in favor 03:06:40.280 --> 03:06:42.639 Council PE councelor Baker counselor 03:06:42.719 --> 03:06:44.719 Cooper and councelor Seymour all those 03:06:44.799 --> 03:06:48.360 opposed councelor lens councelor councel 03:06:48.440 --> 03:06:51.760 grao councelor Tim Le and councelor or 03:06:51.840 --> 03:06:55.360 that motion is 03:06:59.879 --> 03:07:02.639 lost yeah so we'll just need a 03:07:02.719 --> 03:07:05.760 procedural item uh to move for an 03:07:05.840 --> 03:07:09.280 extension of time I believe that motion 03:07:09.360 --> 03:07:12.239 oh look that Council resoled to extend 03:07:12.319 --> 03:07:15.040 the meeting until 11: P p.m. do I have a 03:07:15.120 --> 03:07:17.719 mover for that motion councilor Gro and 03:07:17.799 --> 03:07:20.239 seconder councelor Cooper all those in 03:07:20.319 --> 03:07:23.200 favor that motion is 03:07:23.280 --> 03:07:26.799 carried item 11 urgent business we have 03:07:26.879 --> 03:07:28.879 one item of urgent business relating to 03:07:28.959 --> 03:07:30.319 the greater Southeast Melbourne 03:07:30.399 --> 03:07:33.159 delegation to Cambra before we proceed 03:07:33.239 --> 03:07:35.760 with that item is there any other item 03:07:35.840 --> 03:07:38.440 of urgent business 03:07:38.520 --> 03:07:43.319 tonight no thank you question on this m 03:07:43.399 --> 03:07:46.479 May so um I might indicate that I have a 03:07:46.559 --> 03:07:48.559 conflict of interest so if you can hold 03:07:48.639 --> 03:07:51.120 your question okay but all I'm saying is 03:07:51.200 --> 03:07:52.520 it's not directed to you it's directed 03:07:52.600 --> 03:07:53.520 to the 03:07:53.600 --> 03:07:55.719 offices do you need your question 03:07:55.799 --> 03:07:58.760 answered before you it's pretty 03:07:58.840 --> 03:08:01.239 pertinent yeah I think I might need to 03:08:01.319 --> 03:08:03.319 declare my conflict of interest and then 03:08:03.399 --> 03:08:05.200 you can have the 03:08:05.280 --> 03:08:08.079 discussion okay so before we move into 03:08:08.159 --> 03:08:09.879 the item of urgent business relating to 03:08:09.959 --> 03:08:11.520 the great greater Southeast melbour 03:08:11.600 --> 03:08:13.760 delegation to launch the GSM jobs and 03:08:13.840 --> 03:08:16.280 skills road map in Campa I am declaring 03:08:16.360 --> 03:08:18.200 a conflict of interest as it relates to 03:08:18.280 --> 03:08:20.719 my attendance at this launch as well as 03:08:20.799 --> 03:08:22.920 the reimbursement of expenses incurred 03:08:23.000 --> 03:08:26.239 by me in relation to the travel as the 03:08:26.319 --> 03:08:28.479 deputy mayor councelor Grasso is in 03:08:28.559 --> 03:08:30.360 attendance tonight and has stepped in 03:08:30.440 --> 03:08:32.440 twice already in accordance with 03:08:32.520 --> 03:08:34.200 governance rule 03:08:34.280 --> 03:08:37.280 7211 I will vacate the chair and Deputy 03:08:37.360 --> 03:08:42.280 Mayor will chair this item 03:09:05.520 --> 03:09:08.120 councelor P you have a 03:09:08.200 --> 03:09:11.319 question yes I 03:09:11.399 --> 03:09:14.000 do my question actually it's two 03:09:14.079 --> 03:09:17.479 questions and the first one is that is 03:09:17.559 --> 03:09:18.840 this really a conflict of interest for 03:09:18.920 --> 03:09:20.520 me given that I would assume this is 03:09:20.600 --> 03:09:22.879 part of her normal duties as part of the 03:09:22.959 --> 03:09:25.719 JSM group the second question 03:09:25.799 --> 03:09:29.520 is why are we why is there a separate 03:09:29.600 --> 03:09:32.479 need for a separate event on the 26th of 03:09:32.559 --> 03:09:37.440 June when alga starts on the 29th of 03:09:37.520 --> 03:09:40.360 30th of June I mean why why did this not 03:09:40.440 --> 03:09:44.920 be put back to the alga 03:09:45.000 --> 03:09:47.799 conference happy to help ccel a peer 03:09:47.879 --> 03:09:50.000 um uh so in terms of the conflict of 03:09:50.079 --> 03:09:52.920 interest question uh yes we've looked at 03:09:53.000 --> 03:09:54.600 that today against both the governance 03:09:54.680 --> 03:09:57.600 rules and the Local Government Act uh 03:09:57.680 --> 03:09:59.079 and the conflict of interest 03:09:59.159 --> 03:10:01.280 requirements uh and there is a a 03:10:01.360 --> 03:10:03.280 material interest um given that 03:10:03.360 --> 03:10:05.159 councelor uh Dwight is seeking 03:10:05.239 --> 03:10:07.200 reimbursement of costs that she's 03:10:07.280 --> 03:10:09.840 incurred in relation to um travel the 03:10:09.920 --> 03:10:13.200 aairs to um to CRA although she would be 03:10:13.280 --> 03:10:16.559 representing Council um because of that 03:10:16.639 --> 03:10:18.879 Financial to it there is under the act 03:10:18.959 --> 03:10:21.799 of conflict of interest in terms of why 03:10:21.879 --> 03:10:23.799 the event was scheduled at a separate 03:10:23.879 --> 03:10:26.000 time other than alga and that's 03:10:26.079 --> 03:10:27.879 certainly something that had um 03:10:27.959 --> 03:10:31.799 discussion uh among the GM group um the 03:10:31.879 --> 03:10:33.959 Practical reality at alar is that it's a 03:10:34.040 --> 03:10:35.760 very difficult thing to get um 03:10:35.840 --> 03:10:38.760 concentrated time with um with ministers 03:10:38.840 --> 03:10:41.079 particularly multiple ministers that 03:10:41.159 --> 03:10:43.520 certainly been uh certainly been our 03:10:43.600 --> 03:10:45.719 experience in direct experience in 03:10:45.799 --> 03:10:47.840 seeking to set up meetings um from an 03:10:47.920 --> 03:10:50.200 advocacy point of view so while that is 03:10:50.280 --> 03:10:52.280 possible it's very very difficult and 03:10:52.360 --> 03:10:54.040 particularly on the scale of the number 03:10:54.120 --> 03:10:56.639 of meetings that have been arranged for 03:10:56.719 --> 03:10:59.000 uh the event on Wednesday and Thursday 03:10:59.079 --> 03:11:02.920 this week um so uh the delegation that 03:11:03.000 --> 03:11:07.200 is attending incam bro is um made up of 03:11:07.280 --> 03:11:09.680 um cosos Mayors and and community 03:11:09.760 --> 03:11:11.040 members and particularly those who' have 03:11:11.120 --> 03:11:14.200 been involved in helping to uh create a 03:11:14.280 --> 03:11:17.280 road map for the GM region around uh 03:11:17.360 --> 03:11:19.280 Improvement in jobs and skills outcomes 03:11:19.360 --> 03:11:21.040 which is I guess the centerpiece of what 03:11:21.120 --> 03:11:24.159 the the trip is about followup question 03:11:24.239 --> 03:11:27.280 Deputy Mayor how many what's the 03:11:27.360 --> 03:11:28.760 delegation from nox how many are we 03:11:28.840 --> 03:11:30.200 paying 03:11:30.280 --> 03:11:33.680 for uh just myself and and if Council 03:11:33.760 --> 03:11:36.559 determines tonight uh the mayor uh and 03:11:36.639 --> 03:11:40.360 that's um uh the cost of uh getting to 03:11:40.440 --> 03:11:43.120 and from Cambra uh the accommodation 03:11:43.200 --> 03:11:48.879 costs are covered um by GM itself 03:11:51.000 --> 03:11:54.159 thank you Mr Doon um we will need a 03:11:54.239 --> 03:11:57.159 procedural motion to accept this item as 03:11:57.239 --> 03:11:59.920 a matter of Virgin business first so I 03:12:00.000 --> 03:12:03.719 will move the motion that is on the 03:12:04.959 --> 03:12:07.600 screen that Council resolved to admit as 03:12:07.680 --> 03:12:10.479 an item of Virgin business consideration 03:12:10.559 --> 03:12:12.479 of the attendance and reimbursement of 03:12:12.559 --> 03:12:15.079 travel expenses for Council Dwight to 03:12:15.159 --> 03:12:17.319 join the greater Southeast Melbourne 03:12:17.399 --> 03:12:20.120 delegation to launch the GM jobs and 03:12:20.200 --> 03:12:22.879 skills Road MPP in Cambra on 26th of 03:12:22.959 --> 03:12:26.120 June 2024 pursuant to rule 21 of 03:12:26.200 --> 03:12:29.239 council's governance 03:12:31.079 --> 03:12:34.280 rules thank 03:12:34.879 --> 03:12:39.120 you confirming 03:12:39.760 --> 03:12:45.719 um yep so can we do we all vote yet 03:12:45.799 --> 03:12:49.840 so confirm so moved by counselor Cooper 03:12:49.920 --> 03:12:53.079 seconded by councelor Pierce um does 03:12:53.159 --> 03:12:54.399 anyone wish 03:12:54.479 --> 03:12:59.479 to speak to it no no uh then I will put 03:12:59.559 --> 03:13:01.719 the 03:13:02.479 --> 03:13:05.239 motion this motion is 03:13:05.319 --> 03:13:09.040 carried thank you 03:13:09.120 --> 03:13:12.239 um now to proceed to the actual urgent 03:13:12.319 --> 03:13:14.120 business motion as this item has now 03:13:14.200 --> 03:13:16.520 been accepted as urgent business we'll 03:13:16.600 --> 03:13:18.920 now move to the substantive motion as 03:13:19.000 --> 03:13:21.639 shown on the 03:13:24.200 --> 03:13:26.799 screen to read all 03:13:26.879 --> 03:13:31.159 that okay so that Council resolves to 03:13:31.239 --> 03:13:33.040 approve number one approve the 03:13:33.120 --> 03:13:35.879 attendance of council Dwight to join the 03:13:35.959 --> 03:13:39.360 GSM delegation to Cambra to launch the 03:13:39.440 --> 03:13:42.120 GSM jobs and skills road map and meet 03:13:42.200 --> 03:13:44.959 with ministers and Shadow ministers to 03:13:45.040 --> 03:13:47.520 present the funding and policy requests 03:13:47.600 --> 03:13:49.799 that emerged from the jobs and skills 03:13:49.879 --> 03:13:52.719 Summit and GM of course was the greater 03:13:52.799 --> 03:13:54.600 Southeast melan 03:13:54.680 --> 03:13:57.239 delegation uh and number two that the 03:13:57.319 --> 03:13:59.600 costs of council Dwight attending the 03:13:59.680 --> 03:14:02.399 launch of the GM jobs and skills 03:14:02.479 --> 03:14:05.079 roadmapping Cambra are considered 03:14:05.159 --> 03:14:07.680 reasonably necessary for the performance 03:14:07.760 --> 03:14:10.360 of her role and the council reimburse 03:14:10.440 --> 03:14:13.200 Council adwi for reasonable Associated 03:14:13.280 --> 03:14:15.719 travel expenses in accordance with 03:14:15.799 --> 03:14:18.559 councils Council support and expenses 03:14:18.639 --> 03:14:20.760 policy noting that the cost of 03:14:20.840 --> 03:14:24.440 accommodation will be covered by 03:14:24.520 --> 03:14:27.399 GSM do I have a move for that motion as 03:14:27.479 --> 03:14:30.200 shown on the 03:14:30.280 --> 03:14:34.000 screen councilor p is there a second up 03:14:34.079 --> 03:14:37.559 for that motion councelor Tim Lee online 03:14:37.639 --> 03:14:40.719 thank you uh councelor P's mover do you 03:14:40.799 --> 03:14:44.239 wish to speak 03:14:48.760 --> 03:14:53.000 um the reason I'm moving this is um I 03:14:53.079 --> 03:14:55.040 want to support the mayor and her 03:14:55.120 --> 03:14:57.799 ability to to under take the 03:14:57.879 --> 03:15:00.040 responsibilities that are required of 03:15:00.120 --> 03:15:02.680 her irrespective we think there's value 03:15:02.760 --> 03:15:05.639 in this or not the mayor should not 03:15:05.719 --> 03:15:07.680 personally be out of pocket for doing a 03:15:07.760 --> 03:15:09.760 count performing a council function 03:15:09.840 --> 03:15:12.120 having said that I thought a bit ironic 03:15:12.200 --> 03:15:13.719 that we're going to fund this but people 03:15:13.799 --> 03:15:16.000 were banging on about oh we can't we 03:15:16.079 --> 03:15:17.559 can't spend more money on garbage but 03:15:17.639 --> 03:15:19.479 let's let's just put that let's just put 03:15:19.559 --> 03:15:24.360 that one aside so I'll leave it 03:15:24.879 --> 03:15:28.159 there thank you councelor pierce uh 03:15:28.239 --> 03:15:30.639 councelor Tim Le seconder do you wish to 03:15:30.719 --> 03:15:33.959 speak um yes um I'm I'm also happy to 03:15:34.040 --> 03:15:37.879 support um sending uh our mayor to be 03:15:37.959 --> 03:15:39.600 part of this delegation I think I think 03:15:39.680 --> 03:15:41.600 it's actually probably going to be um 03:15:41.680 --> 03:15:44.200 even more valuable um than the alga trip 03:15:44.280 --> 03:15:47.399 um given um that 03:15:47.479 --> 03:15:50.079 uh you know we're not competing with a 03:15:50.159 --> 03:15:52.959 bunch load of other councils um at that 03:15:53.040 --> 03:15:55.440 point in time so um I agree with Council 03:15:55.520 --> 03:15:57.600 appears um the mayor should not be out 03:15:57.680 --> 03:16:01.360 of pocket um to represent Council um in 03:16:01.440 --> 03:16:03.840 this very important um piece of work so 03:16:03.920 --> 03:16:06.399 I'm happy to support this 03:16:06.479 --> 03:16:09.319 motion thank you thank you councilor Tim 03:16:09.399 --> 03:16:12.280 Lee does any other counselor wish to 03:16:12.360 --> 03:16:15.360 speak 03:16:18.959 --> 03:16:22.000 I would just like to add that um um in 03:16:22.079 --> 03:16:24.000 addition to what's already been stated 03:16:24.079 --> 03:16:26.239 by councilor peerce and councilor Tim 03:16:26.319 --> 03:16:30.120 leech um all other Mayors are going to 03:16:30.200 --> 03:16:32.399 this and I think it's particularly 03:16:32.479 --> 03:16:35.639 important um you know given the subject 03:16:35.719 --> 03:16:38.680 given the given the topic that um KNX is 03:16:38.760 --> 03:16:42.520 also represented through um mayor JW DW 03:16:42.600 --> 03:16:46.319 having said that uh I'll now put the 03:16:46.399 --> 03:16:48.840 motion 03:16:49.600 --> 03:16:51.680 oh Council peace did you wish to 03:16:51.760 --> 03:16:54.120 exercise your right to reply thank you 03:16:54.200 --> 03:16:57.280 so all those in 03:16:59.040 --> 03:17:03.159 favor thank you that motion is 03:17:03.239 --> 03:17:06.920 carried I think MWI can uh be invited 03:17:07.000 --> 03:17:10.000 back 03:17:35.159 --> 03:17:37.079 thank you counselor Gro that looked like 03:17:37.159 --> 03:17:41.079 a positive notd thank you 03:17:43.000 --> 03:17:46.440 counselors okay so that takes us to item 03:17:46.520 --> 03:17:48.600 12 questions through the chair does any 03:17:48.680 --> 03:17:50.159 counselor wish to raise a question 03:17:50.239 --> 03:17:52.879 through the chair 03:17:52.959 --> 03:17:56.600 tonight and item 13 confidential items 03:17:56.680 --> 03:17:58.879 as there are no items of confidential 03:17:58.959 --> 03:18:02.040 business I declare the meeting closed 03:18:02.120 --> 03:18:03.799 thank you to all our members of the 03:18:03.879 --> 03:18:07.120 public gallery for for staying with us 03:18:07.200 --> 03:18:12.440 um and those online good night